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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372
    edited February 2022
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
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  • PJNB
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    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
    Are they not nose diving like they are up here? 

    As of the end of this month there will no longer be any restrictions on non vaxed where I live. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,372
    PJNB said:
    mickeyrat said:
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    gonna depend on case counts and hospitalizations in relation to available beds I would hope.

    be smart about it.....

    am wondering now about the vax required shows up to this point. will that still hold....
    Are they not nose diving like they are up here? 

    As of the end of this month there will no longer be any restrictions on non vaxed where I live. 

    I am in Columbus , Franklin County....




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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Massachusetts is done with all mitigation efforts on February 28, I think. 

    Municipalities, private businesses, public organizations, etc. can still post their own mitigation efforts—for instance, our suburban school district will maintain masking until March 14, and my urban office building will still require masking in common areas for the foreseeable future—but the commonwealth has been waving the white flag for a while now.  

    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


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  • JeBurkhardt
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    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 
    Illinois is dropping mask mandates as of the end of the month for most places, with the exception of schools. However, there was a lawsuit challenging mask mandates in schools that through an issued TRO, has resulted in most districts in the State making masks optional until the lawsuit is resolved. Pritzer appealed the TRO, but was denied. In the end that lawsuit will probably be successfully, so the school mask mandate will officially end. 
  • Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

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  • Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    I would have let them sign that patient out and let them handle it since they know better.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    dankind said:


    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


    Yeah, The Garden kept the Vax mandate through the weekend after the city lifted it on Friday, so folks who went to Tool and Billie Eilish had to show proof. Shouldn't have been a big deal as they were expecting to have to show it when they bought tix (unless they caught a day of release).
    They lifted it at Garden on Monday, said they will still honor any artist requests for proof of vax if they should occur.

    City still has mask mandate, that will probably be lifted soon though.
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  • PJNB
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    dankind said:
    Massachusetts is done with all mitigation efforts on February 28, I think. 

    Municipalities, private businesses, public organizations, etc. can still post their own mitigation efforts—for instance, our suburban school district will maintain masking until March 14, and my urban office building will still require masking in common areas for the foreseeable future—but the commonwealth has been waving the white flag for a while now.  

    Oh, the Boston mayor also recently did away with the city’s proof-of-vaccination mandate, but my wife and daughter still had to show it to get into the Billie Eilish concert—and my son and I will likely still be required to show ours at Jack White’s concert around six weeks from now. 


    Interesting those two dates line up with pretty much exactly what my province is doing. 

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    Another prime example of just how stupid these Q conspiracy theory nut jobs are.

    He likened "medical professionals to nazi war criminals" but has 88 in the name of his little club.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    Another prime example of just how stupid these Q conspiracy theory nut jobs are.

    He likened "medical professionals to nazi war criminals" but has 88 in the name of his little club.
    Exactly.  88=HH. We see them for who they are. 
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Can anyone spot the common theme between what we're seeing here and putin on the ritz's Ukraine invasion? This country is fucked, Way too far gone to recover from the stupidity.

    This hospital tried to save a man with covid. Then the threats started.

    The group that targeted the hospital calls itself the Truth Seekers 88. Mike Penny, a leader, is based in North Carolina and regularly posts videos and hosts chats on platforms such as Facebook and Telegram. The lengthy videos offer a stream of QAnon conspiracy theories claiming that former president Donald Trump will save the country from the grip of a child-trafficking cabal and that his return to power is all part of a plan.

    “My spirit is led by God, obviously, and that’s how the group got founded,” said Penny, 53. “Q has led a lot of people to God in this difficult time.”

    During the pandemic, the conspiracy theories embraced by groups such as Penny’s have evolved to incorporate not just anti-vaccine disinformation but also falsehoods about doctors and the medical establishment. Penny and his group refer to remdesivir, a medication approved by the Food and Drug Administration, as the “r-devil” drug and claim, without evidence, that it kills covid patients — while embracing ivermectin as a lifesaving treatment.

    In an interview with The Post, Penny likened medical professionals to Nazi war criminals, saying they would face a new version of the Nuremberg trials for their actions during the pandemic.

    In New Hampshire, a hospital faced threats over its treatment of a covid patient - The Washington Post

    Another prime example of just how stupid these Q conspiracy theory nut jobs are.

    He likened "medical professionals to nazi war criminals" but has 88 in the name of his little club.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,546
    PJNB said:
    So what is going on with the blue US states with restrictions going forward? Do states like NY and California have paths to dropping all of them by a certain date? In Canada most provinces have dates to lift all restrictions by the end of March and I am curious where some of you guys are at. 

    I'm in Oregon and the mask mandate will be dropped in about three weeks. It's been based on hospitalization numbers this whole time, which is why masks were dropped last summer when numbers were low.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Well here in the big apple the mandates are lifted and the trucks are still rolling to DC in the Peoples Convoy.

    Well that sucked.  Let's not do it again.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.

    haha, what a leader. can't even get kids to listen to him. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    mrussel1 said:
    Ron Desantis chides students for wearing masks, asking them to take them off.  They don't.  That's hilarious considering he said he was about freedom and choice. 

    https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/03/02/desantis-chides-students-for-wearing-masks-at-his-tampa-news-conference/

    TAMPA — At a news conference Wednesday, Gov. Ron DeSantis expressed irritation that a group of high school students standing behind him were wearing masks and urged them to remove the face coverings.

    Before taking the lectern at the University of South Florida, where he announced a $20 million state investment in cybersecurity workforce education, DeSantis asked why people wearing masks were standing behind him.

    Then he approached the students, who are studying cybersecurity in high school.

    “You don’t have to wear those masks,” DeSantis said. “Please take them off.”

    Some of the students laughed. DeSantis appeared to remain annoyed. “Honestly, this is not doing anything,” he said. “We got to stop with this COVID theater.” The students didn’t respond.


  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    what an asshole
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I just came across an instagrammer in my city that thinks the covid vaccine gives you AIDS. and that my mayor is going to prison for crimes against humanity. their page is just full of conspiracy memes. it's wild. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    Wow, reading the account in mrussell;s post is one thing, seeing the video is another. Complete asshole.
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