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i cannot imagine the gymnastics of supporting and cheerleading other countries to go to a war while at the same time wanting my own government to stay out of it, while at the same time hating my own government."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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gimmesometruth27 said:i cannot imagine the gymnastics of supporting and cheerleading other countries to go to a war while at the same time wanting my own government to stay out of it, while at the same time hating my own government.
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gimmesometruth27 said:i cannot imagine the gymnastics of supporting and cheerleading other countries to go to a war while at the same time wanting my own government to stay out of it, while at the same time hating my own government.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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gimmesometruth27 said:i cannot imagine the gymnastics of supporting and cheerleading other countries to go to a war while at the same time wanting my own government to stay out of it, while at the same time hating my own government.
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Can the US really handle the Ukraine situation if Putin invades? On top of the supply chain issues and rising inflation what moves can we actually make that don't risk making our situation worse at home? Really hoping Vlad doesn't invade so we don't have to find out.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:Can the US really handle the Ukraine situation if Putin invades? On top of the supply chain issues and rising inflation what moves can we actually make that don't risk making our situation worse at home? Really hoping Vlad doesn't invade so we don't have to find out.
I continue to think this is brinksmanship to extract concessions related to NATO exercises, troop rotations, etc. There is room to give here. What cannot be given is a guarantee to never allow Ukraine into NATO.0 -
mrussel1 said:benjs said:Meltdown99 said:America doesn’t believe in peace. They are a nation founded on violence and try to bully the world through world through violence…
Gotta keep the military industrial complex going…
They only spend 500 + billion per year on the war machine. Imagine using some of that money for actual good..
peace is not the American way…watch the evening news.
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1. Russia expels #2 US diplomat
2. Russia claims Ukraine is committing atrocities against Russian speakers in Donbass region
This is entirely predictable and exactly what US intelligence predicted Russia would do as a pretext for invasion. With the Olympics wrapping up, it's getting close.
But Russia just wants peace, amiright?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna16609
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mrussel1 said:1. Russia expels #2 US diplomat
2. Russia claims Ukraine is committing atrocities against Russian speakers in Donbass region
This is entirely predictable and exactly what US intelligence predicted Russia would do as a pretext for invasion. With the Olympics wrapping up, it's getting close.
But Russia just wants peace, amiright?
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Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:1. Russia expels #2 US diplomat
2. Russia claims Ukraine is committing atrocities against Russian speakers in Donbass region
This is entirely predictable and exactly what US intelligence predicted Russia would do as a pretext for invasion. With the Olympics wrapping up, it's getting close.
But Russia just wants peace, amiright?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna166090 -
mrussel1 said:Halifax2TheMax said:mrussel1 said:1. Russia expels #2 US diplomat
2. Russia claims Ukraine is committing atrocities against Russian speakers in Donbass region
This is entirely predictable and exactly what US intelligence predicted Russia would do as a pretext for invasion. With the Olympics wrapping up, it's getting close.
But Russia just wants peace, amiright?
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mrussel1 said:1. Russia expels #2 US diplomat
2. Russia claims Ukraine is committing atrocities against Russian speakers in Donbass region
This is entirely predictable and exactly what US intelligence predicted Russia would do as a pretext for invasion. With the Olympics wrapping up, it's getting close.
But Russia just wants peace, amiright?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna16609
this shit is so fucking predictable if people would only pay attention to history.
what is past is prologue."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Ukrainian rebels evacuate civilians to Russia amid crisisBy VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV, YURAS KARMANAU and AAMER MADHANI22 mins ago
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Spiking tensions in eastern Ukraine on Friday aggravated Western fears of a Russian invasion and a new war in Europe, with a humanitarian convoy hit by shelling and pro-Russian rebels evacuating civilians from the conflict zone. A car bombing hit the eastern city of Donetsk, but no casualties were reported.
The Kremlin declared massive nuclear drills to flex its military muscle, and President Vladimir Putin pledged to protect Russia’s national interests against what it sees as encroaching Western threats. U.S. and European leaders, meanwhile, grasped for ways to keep the peace and Europe’s post-Cold War security order.
While Putin held out the possibility of diplomacy, a cascade of developments this week have have further exacerbated East-West tensions and fueled war worries. This week's actions have fed those concerns: U.S. and European officials, focused on an estimated 150,000 Russian troops posted around Ukraine’s borders, warn the long-simmering separatist conflict in eastern Ukraine could provide the spark for a broader attack.
Vice President Kamala Harris said the U.S. still hopes Russia will de-escalate but is ready to hit it with tough sanctions in case of an attack. U.S. leaders this week issued their most dire warnings yet that Moscow could order an invasion of Ukraine any day.
“We remain, of course, open to and desirous of diplomacy ... but we are also committed, if Russia takes aggressive action, to ensure there will be severe consequence,” Harris said at the annual Munich Security Conference.
While Russia snubbed this year's conference, lines of communication remain open: The U.S. and Russian defense chiefs spoke Friday, and U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin called for de-escalation, the return of Russian forces surrounding Ukraine to their home bases, and a diplomatic resolution, according to the Pentagon. Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov agreed to meet next week.
Immediate worries focused on eastern Ukraine, where Ukrainian forces have been fighting pro-Russia rebels since 2014 in a conflict that has killed some 14,000 people.
A bombing struck a car outside the main government building in the major eastern city of Donetsk, according to an Associated Press journalist there. The head of the separatists' forces, Denis Sinenkov, said the car was his, the Interfax news agency reported.
There were no reports of casualties and no independent confirmation of the circumstances of the blast. Uniformed men inspected the burned-out car. Broken glass littered the area,
Shelling and shooting are common along the line that separates Ukrainian forces and the rebels, but targeted violence is unusual in rebel-held cities like Donetsk.
However, the explosion and the announced evacuations were in line with U.S. warnings of so-called false-flag attacks that Russia would use to justify an invasion. The U.S. State Department noted that Blinken had warned of “this type of false-flag operation” on Thursday at the U.N. Security Council.
Separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions that form Ukraine's industrial heartland known as the Donbas said they are evacuating civilians to Russia. The announcement appeared to be part of Moscow’s efforts to counter Western warnings of a Russian invasion, and paint Ukraine as the aggressor instead.
Denis Pushilin, head of the Donetsk rebel government, said women, children and the elderly would go first, and that Russia has prepared facilities for them. Pushilin alleged in a video statement that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy was going to order an imminent offensive in the area.
Authorities began moving children from an orphanage in Donetsk, and other residents boarded buses for Russia. Long lines formed at gas stations as more people prepared to leave on their own.
Putin ordered his emergencies minister to fly to the Rostov region bordering Ukraine to help organize the exodus and ordered the government to offer a payment of 10,000 rubles (about $130) to each evacuee, equivalent to about half of an average monthly salary in the war-ravaged Donbas.
Ukraine denied planning any offensive, with Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba saying that “Ukraine does not conduct or plan any such actions in the Donbas.”
“We are fully committed to diplomatic conflict resolution only,” he tweeted.
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Suggest following these people name dropped for coverage:
Nolan Peterson is hands down the best one for overall lay of the land.
But, yeah, this sucks. This is a really big deal and it's shocking how many people either a) don't give a shit or b) have no fucking clue.0 -
Jearlpam0925 said:Suggest following these people name dropped for coverage:
Nolan Peterson is hands down the best one for overall lay of the land.
But, yeah, this sucks. This is a really big deal and it's shocking how many people either a) don't give a shit or b) have no fucking clue.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Haven’t we’ve come further than this? Why do we still have something called war?I saw on the news a 17 year old Ukraine boy is digging up trenches on his spare time, trying to help his country. So Russians and Ukraines are going to shoot each other in cold blood? This feels so extremely fucked up,0
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Annafalk said:Haven’t we’ve come further than this? Why do we still have something called war?I saw on the news a 17 year old Ukraine boy is digging up trenches on his spare time, trying to help his country. So Russians and Ukraines are going to shoot each other in cold blood? This feels so extremely fucked up,0
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This should stop Russia…Give Peas A Chance…0
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This is all over Ukraine wanting into NATO…and Russian is not going to allow that without a war…
and the US has maintained sanctions and whatnot on Cuba…over the Cuban missile crisis.
oh the irony…
same bullshit, same 2 countries, different continent..
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Its all so needless
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