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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/157134/vip-tickets-for-pj-20-secured#latest
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,838
    JimmyV said:
    One reason why I'm skeptical. This is the Counting Crows announcement from earlier today. Rescheduled dates and cancellations all in one. I feel like if a PJ announcement was imminent Baltimore would have been handled similarly. 


    This is good though as it shows a Euro tour is still happening for that band.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    Fauci discussed that mask mandates should be going away soon.  Don’t understand why tours are being postponed unless there is insurance risk that is too costly.  
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,995
    bootlegger10 said:
    Fauci discussed that mask mandates should be going away soon.  Don’t understand why tours are being postponed unless there is insurance risk that is too costly.  
    Low ticket sales?  
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    D-Rod said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Fauci discussed that mask mandates should be going away soon.  Don’t understand why tours are being postponed unless there is insurance risk that is too costly.  
    Low ticket sales?  
    Could be.  
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    bootlegger10 said:
    D-Rod said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Fauci discussed that mask mandates should be going away soon.  Don’t understand why tours are being postponed unless there is insurance risk that is too costly.  
    Low ticket sales?  
    Could be.  
    That definitely was happening last year with covid safety being the reason they stated publicly. 

    For those that think the announcement is a ways off May is coming fast early March has to be the deadline for those shows at the very least. Hopefully we get it soon in February though and all at once. 
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    bootlegger10 said:
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
    NHL as well. If they are doing a tour this spring going to be interesting to see how that plays out with the arenas. May is a tough man as we found out in 2016. Bring on the dates! 
  • woolyman
    woolyman Posts: 53
    PJNB said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
    NHL as well. If they are doing a tour this spring going to be interesting to see how that plays out with the arenas. May is a tough man as we found out in 2016. Bring on the dates! 
    Ya - that was nuts. Would be really hard for people who travel, only to be bumped by playoffs!  😬
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    bootlegger10 said:
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
    From the looks of Ticketmaster, the EV shows have sold extremely well. Only box office tickets left for Chicago are Platinum and "limited view". San Diego has a handful of Platinum tickets left (~46), LA seems to have the most unsold (~140?), while the Seattle shows have around 20 unsold Platinum tickets each. I don't think a tour announcement is going to harm attendance at those shows.
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

    Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24

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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,666
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    craigraether said:
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
    Holy shit California has a shit ton of arenas dont they. Great there is no overlap there as I thought there would be with Oakland but looks like they play at the Chase arena now. Denver will def be a factor and maybe one or two more cities. This leads me to think we are starting in California since the later we get in May the less risk of teams making it that far into the playoffs and have to reschedule shows. 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,995
    craigraether said:
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
    Arizona doesn’t have a professional team playing in that arena either……..ZING!!!!!
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    D-Rod said:
    craigraether said:
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
    Arizona doesn’t have a professional team playing in that arena either……..ZING!!!!!
    Lol. With both of us being Habs fans I am pretty sure neither of us have any room to be knocking any pro sports teams right now. 
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    D-Rod said:
    craigraether said:
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
    Arizona doesn’t have a professional team playing in that arena either……..ZING!!!!!
    I forgot about this - there actually won't be a team playing there in May.
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

    Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24

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    He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    PJNB said:
    craigraether said:
    The LA shows, Oak shows, SD show, all in arenas without professional sports teams to deal with. those could all be done in May, even Arizona too as their Hockey team will not make the playoffs. that is half of the planned 2020 shows.. 
    Holy shit California has a shit ton of arenas dont they. Great there is no overlap there as I thought there would be with Oakland but looks like they play at the Chase arena now. Denver will def be a factor and maybe one or two more cities. This leads me to think we are starting in California since the later we get in May the less risk of teams making it that far into the playoffs and have to reschedule shows. 
     I think it was 10 years ago they played two nights in the LA Sports Arena, a.k.a. The Dump That Jumps. Let's just say it was not in LA's most posh neighbourhood. Pearl Jam plays these old arenas because they are cheap and they sell them out anyway.

    The Forum though is a great place renovated just for concerts.
  • KL159781
    KL159781 Posts: 118
    edited February 2022
    bootlegger10 said:
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
    I would assume based on Jeff’s comments on Eddie’s tour being the test, that what they are waiting for is his tour to finish to see if he was able to successfully get through all 3 weeks without any band or crew members getting covid and leading to shows being postponed.

    My  guess is they will announce within 1-2 weeks of the completion of Eddie’s tour.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,301
    KL159781 said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    So are we waiting on NBA playoff schedules or something?  They’ve held our money for 2 years now.  If they know the dates they should announce them so people can finally request refunds if the new dates don’t work.  

    Eddie’s tour has sold pretty darn well.  Announcing Pj dates should have no bearing on Eddie’s tour.  
    I would assume based on Jeff’s comments on Eddie’s tour being the test, that what they are waiting for is his tour to finish to see if he was able to successfully get through all 3 weeks without any band or crew members getting covid and leading to shows being postponed.

    My  guess is they will announce within 1-2 weeks of the completion of Eddie’s tour.
    This may be true but I think they are probably using consultants and they don’t need Eddie to tour to see how things are to learn how things are.  There are plenty of tours and bands that they could talk to.

    The band has always held an announcement as long as they possibly could because they like things as flexible as possible and this situation is no different.  

  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,378
    The STL Blues are in solid playoff contention, so that will be something to watch for that show. 
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    I still think it’s disappointing they are waiting so long to give dates.  The longer the wait the more likely I will have to get a refund for 1 or more of the shows also kept me from traveling to see Ed in this tour and buying Who tickets so far. 

    My shows will all probably be on wednesdays hahahaha
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