nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


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Same could be said about CNN and FOx. And they’re considered “news”. 

Except CNN has experts like this regularly on its channel. Not saying CNN is perfect, but they make an attempt to bring a wide variety of experts to discuss advanced topics.

Sanjay Gupta (born October 23, 1969) is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospitalin Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Gupta and his younger brother Suneel graduated from Novi High School and Gupta went on to receive his Bachelor of Science degree in biomedical sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, and his M.D. degree from the University of Michigan Medical Schoolin 1993.

Gupta completed his residency in neurological surgery within the University of Michigan Health System, in 2000, followed by a fellowship at the Semmes Murphy Clinic, in Memphis, Tennessee.

They also have people like Joy Reid. 

Joe Rogan has a wide variety of guests as well. Not just Alex Jones. 

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


.

Same could be said about CNN and FOx. And they’re considered “news”. 

Except CNN has experts like this regularly on its channel. Not saying CNN is perfect, but they make an attempt to bring a wide variety of experts to discuss advanced topics.

Sanjay Gupta (born October 23, 1969) is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospitalin Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Gupta and his younger brother Suneel graduated from Novi High School and Gupta went on to receive his Bachelor of Science degree in biomedical sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, and his M.D. degree from the University of Michigan Medical Schoolin 1993.

Gupta completed his residency in neurological surgery within the University of Michigan Health System, in 2000, followed by a fellowship at the Semmes Murphy Clinic, in Memphis, Tennessee.

They also have people like Joy Reid. 

Joe Rogan has a wide variety of guests as well. Not just Alex Jones. 

Joy Reid? Sounds like whataboutism. Don’t watch her, not sure if she lies about a deadly disease for profit like roegan.

mickeyrat said:

FiveBelow said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


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This is a very misleading way to present the facts. Unless you think there isn't much difference between a newborn and 64 year old.

Of the 221,944 deaths under 65 (per the CDC):

73.14% or 162,327 between 50-64 (18.78% of all covid deaths)

17.01% or 37,753 between 40-49 (4.37% of all covid deaths)

7.10% or 15,756 between 30-39 (1.82% of all covid deaths)

2.41% or 5,360 between 18-29 (0.62% of all covid deaths)

0.34% or 748 between 0-17 (0.09% of all covid deaths)

I'm not advocating for rogan, but when you look at the data he isn't wrong about young and/or healthy people being at a much, much lower risk. To my limited knowledge, he hasn't told his audience to forgo the vaccine, so why are his opinions backed by actual data being seen as misinformation? How quickly the media & social media glom onto these things and work the masses into a frenzy is much more concerning than anyone with a podcast, imo.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

rogan is in his 50's......

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

Indifference said:

oftenreading said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

No, this just is not correct. You can not extrapolate the percentages of  current admissions during the omicron wave to all hospitalizations over the last two years. We know that previous strains led to higher morbidity and mortality. 

Also, and I really feel like I’m beating my head against the wall on this point, the distinction people are trying to make between hospitalized with and for covid is not that straightforward. We know that many patient populations have higher length of stay and worse outcomes even when “just” hospitalized with rather than for covid. It may be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when they get admitted but that doesn’t mean it conveniently stays asymptomatic the entire admission.  

The main issue is never given the stats - so everything posted here is pure speculation.