The Joe Rogan Thread

Meltdown99

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

pjl44 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I've listen to Rogan.  He goes on and on, lol.

Ha ha. Yeah, that's actually central to his brand!

Because his interviews are long you may learn things about about guest you never knew…like Ron White love of shrooms…lol

There are lots of podcasts that are long. And where you learn things.

And your point is?  Just curious?  Is there a podcast in which Ron white was talking about shrooms other that Rogan.  I’m serious.  One of the things I like Rogan is because an advocate for cannabis, shrooms and lsd…and he discusses these things with some guest…to me that’s interesting…

Lerxst1992

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


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Same could be said about CNN and FOx. And they’re considered “news”. 

Except CNN has experts like this regularly on its channel. Not saying CNN is perfect, but they make an attempt to bring a wide variety of experts to discuss advanced topics.

Sanjay Gupta (born October 23, 1969) is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospitalin Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Gupta and his younger brother Suneel graduated from Novi High School and Gupta went on to receive his Bachelor of Science degree in biomedical sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, and his M.D. degree from the University of Michigan Medical Schoolin 1993.

Gupta completed his residency in neurological surgery within the University of Michigan Health System, in 2000, followed by a fellowship at the Semmes Murphy Clinic, in Memphis, Tennessee.

They also have people like Joy Reid. 

Joe Rogan has a wide variety of guests as well. Not just Alex Jones. 

Joy Reid? Sounds like whataboutism. Don’t watch her, not sure if she lies about a deadly disease for profit like roegan.

FiveBelow

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


.

This is a very misleading way to present the facts. Unless you think there isn't much difference between a newborn and 64 year old.

Of the 221,944 deaths under 65 (per the CDC):

73.14% or 162,327 between 50-64 (18.78% of all covid deaths)

17.01% or 37,753 between 40-49 (4.37% of all covid deaths)

7.10% or 15,756 between 30-39 (1.82% of all covid deaths)

2.41% or 5,360 between 18-29 (0.62% of all covid deaths)

0.34% or 748 between 0-17 (0.09% of all covid deaths)

I'm not advocating for rogan, but when you look at the data he isn't wrong about young and/or healthy people being at a much, much lower risk. To my limited knowledge, he hasn't told his audience to forgo the vaccine, so why are his opinions backed by actual data being seen as misinformation? How quickly the media & social media glom onto these things and work the masses into a frenzy is much more concerning than anyone with a podcast, imo.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

nicknyr15

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


.

Same could be said about CNN and FOx. And they’re considered “news”. 

Except CNN has experts like this regularly on its channel. Not saying CNN is perfect, but they make an attempt to bring a wide variety of experts to discuss advanced topics.

Sanjay Gupta (born October 23, 1969) is an American neurosurgeon, medical reporter, and writer. He serves as associate chief of the neurosurgery service at Grady Memorial Hospitalin Atlanta, Georgia, associate professor of neurosurgery at the Emory University School of Medicine, and chief medical correspondent for CNN.

Gupta and his younger brother Suneel graduated from Novi High School and Gupta went on to receive his Bachelor of Science degree in biomedical sciences at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor, and his M.D. degree from the University of Michigan Medical Schoolin 1993.

Gupta completed his residency in neurological surgery within the University of Michigan Health System, in 2000, followed by a fellowship at the Semmes Murphy Clinic, in Memphis, Tennessee.

They also have people like Joy Reid. 

Joe Rogan has a wide variety of guests as well. Not just Alex Jones. 

Joy Reid? Sounds like whataboutism. Don’t watch her, not sure if she lies about a deadly disease for profit like roegan.

Cool 

mickeyrat

FiveBelow said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


.

This is a very misleading way to present the facts. Unless you think there isn't much difference between a newborn and 64 year old.

Of the 221,944 deaths under 65 (per the CDC):

73.14% or 162,327 between 50-64 (18.78% of all covid deaths)

17.01% or 37,753 between 40-49 (4.37% of all covid deaths)

7.10% or 15,756 between 30-39 (1.82% of all covid deaths)

2.41% or 5,360 between 18-29 (0.62% of all covid deaths)

0.34% or 748 between 0-17 (0.09% of all covid deaths)

I'm not advocating for rogan, but when you look at the data he isn't wrong about young and/or healthy people being at a much, much lower risk. To my limited knowledge, he hasn't told his audience to forgo the vaccine, so why are his opinions backed by actual data being seen as misinformation? How quickly the media & social media glom onto these things and work the masses into a frenzy is much more concerning than anyone with a podcast, imo.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

rogan is in his 50's......

FiveBelow

mickeyrat said:

FiveBelow said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I agree for the most part.  I think the Problem is when he has quacks on and lets them spout unsubstantiated garbage without proof to back it up.  This leads to heavy confirmation bias and people believing that there is no virus, the vaccines don't work, Invermectin is the cure, ventilators are what is really killing people etc.

Melt…he specifically said if you’re young and healthy you shouldn’t worry about Covid vaccines and ivermectin successfully treats Covid. It doesn’t matter how often he said it, he did and never corrected himself 

is he a doctor? Is he a scientist? Does he have scientific studies that can be reviewed by specialists? Or is he providing misinformation on topics which he has no specialty ….. for profit? Did he bother to mention that Covid vaccines cut serious disease risk by a factor of 20x with minimal side effects? Two thousand percent less risk?

did he bother to mention nearly 250,000 Americans under 65 died from Covid?

back in the day people needed specialty to talk regularly to the masses and face editorial control for quality assurance. These days any bozo with a mic can say whatever tf they want without repercussions 


.

This is a very misleading way to present the facts. Unless you think there isn't much difference between a newborn and 64 year old.

Of the 221,944 deaths under 65 (per the CDC):

73.14% or 162,327 between 50-64 (18.78% of all covid deaths)

17.01% or 37,753 between 40-49 (4.37% of all covid deaths)

7.10% or 15,756 between 30-39 (1.82% of all covid deaths)

2.41% or 5,360 between 18-29 (0.62% of all covid deaths)

0.34% or 748 between 0-17 (0.09% of all covid deaths)

I'm not advocating for rogan, but when you look at the data he isn't wrong about young and/or healthy people being at a much, much lower risk. To my limited knowledge, he hasn't told his audience to forgo the vaccine, so why are his opinions backed by actual data being seen as misinformation? How quickly the media & social media glom onto these things and work the masses into a frenzy is much more concerning than anyone with a podcast, imo.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#SexAndAge

rogan is in his 50's......

That would seem to support his opinion on overall health being a factor, but I’m not sure he was alluding to himself when talking about being young.

dankind

Meltdown99 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Meltdown99 said:

pjl44 said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

static111 said:

Meltdown99 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

“ The study found that areas that voted for Trump by at least 60% in November 2020 had death rates 2.7 times higher than counties that voted heavily for Biden.”

Maybe rogan should keep babbling.

What are you talking about?  

Promote disinformation so people they don't like die.

Of the podcast I’ve watched Rogan does not talk much about Covid…people are acting like he goes on and on he doesn’t, at least in the podcast I’ve watched…and often when Covid comes up he promote a healthy lifestyle, lost weight, eat healthy, avoid sugar, sugery drinks…etc…is this misinformation?  Maybe many people today think it’s misinformation because it’s easier to be lazy and fat … 

I've listen to Rogan.  He goes on and on, lol.

Ha ha. Yeah, that's actually central to his brand!

Because his interviews are long you may learn things about about guest you never knew…like Ron White love of shrooms…lol

There are lots of podcasts that are long. And where you learn things.

And your point is?  Just curious?  Is there a podcast in which Ron white was talking about shrooms other that Rogan.  I’m serious.  One of the things I like Rogan is because an advocate for cannabis, shrooms and lsd…and he discusses these things with some guest…to me that’s interesting…

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/torontostar/status/1487095624805888001?s=21

Maybe if the Bieb walks Spotify would listen..

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/anthonyfurey/status/1487108025643110407?s=21

So after 2 years they are finally going to report the truth…

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/rcvogel2/status/1487100922115284999?s=21S

Look at all these deplorable’s

Ledbetterman10

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/anthonyfurey/status/1487108025643110407?s=21

So after 2 years they are finally going to report the truth…

And it's not just death statistics that are reported like this. Hospitalization statistics are too. When you're admitted to a hospital, you automatically have to get tested for COVID. If you're positive, you're considered in the "hospitalized with COVID" group, even if you're asymptomatic and you're in the hospital for a broken leg. Even Fauci has confirmed this....

"“But the other important thing is that if you look at the children who are hospitalized, many of them are hospitalized with Covid as opposed to because of Covid,” Fauci continued, emphasis added. “And what we mean by that — if a child goes in the hospital, they automatically get tested for Covid. And they get counted as a Covid-hospitalized individual. When in fact, they may go in for a broken leg or appendicitis or something like that. So, it’s over-counting the number of children who are, quote, ‘hospitalized with Covid,’ as opposed to because of Covid.”

Quote is taken from this article: Fauci Finally Admits Something About Covid-19 Others Have Been Censored for Saying (townhall.com)

Gern Blansten

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

Ledbetterman10

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

Yeah but the stats are still off because of overcounting. There should've been a clear distinction between "hospitalized BECAUSE of Covid" and "hospitalized WITH Covid" the entire time. 

dankind

Je me souviens!!

Gern Blansten

Ledbetterman10 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

Yeah but the stats are still off because of overcounting. There should've been a clear distinction between "hospitalized BECAUSE of Covid" and "hospitalized WITH Covid" the entire time. 

What about those who are "hospitalized with covid" when they arrive but they stay longer due to covid?

Lots of stats to keep.

I had a high school friend that went to the hospital for back surgery and died there from covid.  

Indifference

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

Not most in some cases its the other way around - plenty of other examples like this:

Hospitals see more patients 'with COVID-19' vs. 'for COVID-19'

Officials from New York City-based NYU Langone Health told The New York Times in a Jan. 4 report that about 65 percent of its COVID-19 patients were "incidentally" found to be infected after admission for other reasons

pjl44

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

oftenreading

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

No, this just is not correct. You can not extrapolate the percentages of  current admissions during the omicron wave to all hospitalizations over the last two years. We know that previous strains led to higher morbidity and mortality. 

Also, and I really feel like I’m beating my head against the wall on this point, the distinction people are trying to make between hospitalized with and for covid is not that straightforward. We know that many patient populations have higher length of stay and worse outcomes even when “just” hospitalized with rather than for covid. It may be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when they get admitted but that doesn’t mean it conveniently stays asymptomatic the entire admission.  

Indifference

oftenreading said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

No, this just is not correct. You can not extrapolate the percentages of  current admissions during the omicron wave to all hospitalizations over the last two years. We know that previous strains led to higher morbidity and mortality. 

Also, and I really feel like I’m beating my head against the wall on this point, the distinction people are trying to make between hospitalized with and for covid is not that straightforward. We know that many patient populations have higher length of stay and worse outcomes even when “just” hospitalized with rather than for covid. It may be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when they get admitted but that doesn’t mean it conveniently stays asymptomatic the entire admission.  

The main issue is never given the stats - so everything posted here is pure speculation.  

oftenreading

Indifference said:

oftenreading said:

pjl44 said:

Gern Blansten said:

I'm all for accurate stats but surely you realize that most of these people are going to the hospital because they have covid.

My brother in law has been to the ER twice in the last week because of it.

In MA, making that distinction decreased "COVID hospitalizations" by 50%. Almost 2 years of reporting that way. 2 years.

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2022/01/21/massachusetts-covid-hospitalizations-report/

No, this just is not correct. You can not extrapolate the percentages of  current admissions during the omicron wave to all hospitalizations over the last two years. We know that previous strains led to higher morbidity and mortality. 

Also, and I really feel like I’m beating my head against the wall on this point, the distinction people are trying to make between hospitalized with and for covid is not that straightforward. We know that many patient populations have higher length of stay and worse outcomes even when “just” hospitalized with rather than for covid. It may be asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic when they get admitted but that doesn’t mean it conveniently stays asymptomatic the entire admission.  

The main issue is never given the stats - so everything posted here is pure speculation.  

If by “everything posted here” you mean my post in particular, then no, we do have outcome data on some patient groups regarding LOS and complications.