Canadian Politics Redux

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

If you don't mind me asking... what is hysterical about this story? 

It reads like journalism to me.  Their warning about traffic delays seems like a fair and legit warning.  I'm confused by your assertion. 

Maybe it doesn’t come across in the story I linked, but the live coverage is only one step removed from saying we should fear this protest. They had a former OPP commissioner (their “safety expert”) flat out said these shows of support are straight up unsafe (implying they should be shut down). That was in his live remarks at noon, just caught an edit that waters down his statement.

It’s becoming quite clear this is not the “fringe minority” who are engaged in wrong-think as Trudeau claimed yesterday.

As a counterpoint, there wasn’t this degree of concern over the protesters who descended on Toronto a few years ago and trashed the downtown core.

I would say that any concern about extremism without evidence is biased and not good.  I've been watching this stupid convoy closely because I don't want to be stuck in it. 

I haven't honestly seen these fears.  Traffic fears yes... which is what I'm personally concerned about.  

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

If you don't mind me asking... what is hysterical about this story? 

It reads like journalism to me.  Their warning about traffic delays seems like a fair and legit warning.  I'm confused by your assertion. 

Maybe it doesn’t come across in the story I linked, but the live coverage is only one step removed from saying we should fear this protest. They had a former OPP commissioner (their “safety expert”) flat out said these shows of support are straight up unsafe (implying they should be shut down). That was in his live remarks at noon, just caught an edit that waters down his statement.

It’s becoming quite clear this is not the “fringe minority” who are engaged in wrong-think as Trudeau claimed yesterday.

As a counterpoint, there wasn’t this degree of concern over the protesters who descended on Toronto a few years ago and trashed the downtown core.

I would say that any concern about extremism without evidence is biased and not good.  I've been watching this stupid convoy closely because I don't want to be stuck in it. 

I haven't honestly seen these fears.  Traffic fears yes... which is what I'm personally concerned about.  

I suppose part of what I’m reacting to is the constant emphasis we’re seeing about police presence (today) and police preparing for the arrival of the convoy (lead story on last night’s The National), which implies that a group who have so far been nothing but peaceful will turn violent…eventually.

Now, all that said, it is the job of the legal authorities to put plans in place in case things do go south, but was Ottawa police preparations for a weekend protest more newsworthy than Trudeau’s Ukraine announcement yesterday? We’ll all have differing views, but I feel Ukraine deserved more prominence (despite my own disappointment with the substance of the announcement).

it's not nothing. I read an article this morning stating even the organizer of this truck convoy is trying to distance the group from extreme groups trying to piggyback on their cause, telling the truckers to alert her and/or police about anyone suspicious trying to join their groups. so, it's not nothing, it's just being undeservedly linked to the convoy. 

*fuck, I can't find the article. it was on cbc.ca. 

I’ve seen articles to that effect on multiple outlets (pretty sure I read the cbc one yesterday, they bury stories pretty quick on their website).

 I suppose following my previous comparison to the G20 thugs, that one proved it’s maybe better to demonize all protesters, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Unfortunately we didn’t see this in practice with other protesters over the last few years (railroad blockades, BLM protest the PM joined (pre-vaccines)). These fears only seem to be front and centre for “right-leaning” protests.

Btw, just for clarity, I was pissed at antifa and their black bloc (were they being accidentally racist, lol?) for delegitimizing the peaceful protesters at the G20.

I would have liked to go to the nearby overpass today (barely a five minute walk, traffic cams show people gathered), but unfortunately there’s a possible covid exposure in my house so I need to be responsible and stay home.

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

If you don't mind me asking... what is hysterical about this story? 

It reads like journalism to me.  Their warning about traffic delays seems like a fair and legit warning.  I'm confused by your assertion. 

Maybe it doesn’t come across in the story I linked, but the live coverage is only one step removed from saying we should fear this protest. They had a former OPP commissioner (their “safety expert”) flat out said these shows of support are straight up unsafe (implying they should be shut down). That was in his live remarks at noon, just caught an edit that waters down his statement.

It’s becoming quite clear this is not the “fringe minority” who are engaged in wrong-think as Trudeau claimed yesterday.

As a counterpoint, there wasn’t this degree of concern over the protesters who descended on Toronto a few years ago and trashed the downtown core.

I would say that any concern about extremism without evidence is biased and not good.  I've been watching this stupid convoy closely because I don't want to be stuck in it. 

I haven't honestly seen these fears.  Traffic fears yes... which is what I'm personally concerned about.  

I suppose part of what I’m reacting to is the constant emphasis we’re seeing about police presence (today) and police preparing for the arrival of the convoy (lead story on last night’s The National), which implies that a group who have so far been nothing but peaceful will turn violent…eventually.

Now, all that said, it is the job of the legal authorities to put plans in place in case things do go south, but was Ottawa police preparations for a weekend protest more newsworthy than Trudeau’s Ukraine announcement yesterday? We’ll all have differing views, but I feel Ukraine deserved more prominence (despite my own disappointment with the substance of the announcement).

it's not nothing. I read an article this morning stating even the organizer of this truck convoy is trying to distance the group from extreme groups trying to piggyback on their cause, telling the truckers to alert her and/or police about anyone suspicious trying to join their groups. so, it's not nothing, it's just being undeservedly linked to the convoy. 

*fuck, I can't find the article. it was on cbc.ca. 

found it: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/organizer-extremists-convoy-no-violence-1.6327650

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Parksy said:

If you don't mind me asking... what is hysterical about this story? 

It reads like journalism to me.  Their warning about traffic delays seems like a fair and legit warning.  I'm confused by your assertion. 

Maybe it doesn’t come across in the story I linked, but the live coverage is only one step removed from saying we should fear this protest. They had a former OPP commissioner (their “safety expert”) flat out said these shows of support are straight up unsafe (implying they should be shut down). That was in his live remarks at noon, just caught an edit that waters down his statement.

It’s becoming quite clear this is not the “fringe minority” who are engaged in wrong-think as Trudeau claimed yesterday.

As a counterpoint, there wasn’t this degree of concern over the protesters who descended on Toronto a few years ago and trashed the downtown core.

I would say that any concern about extremism without evidence is biased and not good.  I've been watching this stupid convoy closely because I don't want to be stuck in it. 

I haven't honestly seen these fears.  Traffic fears yes... which is what I'm personally concerned about.  

I suppose part of what I’m reacting to is the constant emphasis we’re seeing about police presence (today) and police preparing for the arrival of the convoy (lead story on last night’s The National), which implies that a group who have so far been nothing but peaceful will turn violent…eventually.

Now, all that said, it is the job of the legal authorities to put plans in place in case things do go south, but was Ottawa police preparations for a weekend protest more newsworthy than Trudeau’s Ukraine announcement yesterday? We’ll all have differing views, but I feel Ukraine deserved more prominence (despite my own disappointment with the substance of the announcement).

it's not nothing. I read an article this morning stating even the organizer of this truck convoy is trying to distance the group from extreme groups trying to piggyback on their cause, telling the truckers to alert her and/or police about anyone suspicious trying to join their groups. so, it's not nothing, it's just being undeservedly linked to the convoy. 

*fuck, I can't find the article. it was on cbc.ca. 

I’ve seen articles to that effect on multiple outlets (pretty sure I read the cbc one yesterday, they bury stories pretty quick on their website).

 I suppose following my previous comparison to the G20 thugs, that one proved it’s maybe better to demonize all protesters, plan for the worst and hope for the best. Unfortunately we didn’t see this in practice with other protesters over the last few years (railroad blockades, BLM protest the PM joined (pre-vaccines)). These fears only seem to be front and centre for “right-leaning” protests.

Btw, just for clarity, I was pissed at antifa and their black bloc (were they being accidentally racist, lol?) for delegitimizing the peaceful protesters at the G20.

I would have liked to go to the nearby overpass today (barely a five minute walk, traffic cams show people gathered), but unfortunately there’s a possible covid exposure in my house so I need to be responsible and stay home.

Good on ya for staying home. 

For my own knowledge... what other right leaning protests have occurred that caused unnecessary fears in terms of making sure police presence is available? 

Nami said:

https://youtu.be/itbSIqY4Nnw

It'll be my last RB clip posting, just focus on the message.  He does stir up some interesting points.
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