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The fifth estate is there to hold politicians accountable.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know the full context of this (source?). I honestly don't trust the media any more than I trust politicians these days.1ThoughtKnown said:“All the records in possession of the federal government have already been turned over to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation in Winnipeg,” Justin Trudeau October 2021This week - 875,000 pages of documents regarding the government-funded and church-ran residential schools used to assimilate indigenous youth in Canada was finally provided to the NCTR.Is it any wonder no one trusts politicians anymore?I’ve seen the clip of him saying it. The video is readily available. He said it while sitting next to the indigenous people he snubbed on Vancouver Island during the first National Day of Reconciliation Holiday. He was on the island, flocking around Long Beach…. but didn’t see the need to respond to their invitation to be a part of the historic day.He is all words, no substance. This on the back of the WE scandal where all he could do was apologize. His lack of awareness is astounding really0 -
🤦🏻♂️Gern Blansten said:
Just like my grandmanicknyr15 said:
I just checked. I said “colored”. Yea that’s……that’s my bad.Kat said:
If you go back and look at our PM exchange from February 2020, you'll remember that you did not use the word "black." I appreciated your thanks for the edit at the time too.nicknyr15 said:
Is calling someone “black” acceptable? I was scolded here a few years ago and had my post changed by the mods to “person of color”. I’m legitimately askingGern Blansten said:
we agree on McConnell's statement...not sure why we don't on Biden'sHughFreakingDillon said:
he's mocking me because of my reaction to Gern's "not a big deal" about biden saying that "you ain't black" quote. he's trying to portray that I'm hypocritical in some way. I see them as completely different statements, but whatever.cincybearcat said:
I agree with Hugh. While it sounds really bad, I do not think it was some slip...just came out different then it should have. WHich tends to happen when you you talk on camera a lot.Hobbes said:
Not a big deal? Wow! Can't believe you just said that.HughFreakingDillon said:
honestly I didn't see this one as a big deal. I think he just missed saying "other" or "fellow" before "Americans".brianlux said:I thought McConnell's statement would get more traction from this crowd. I still can't believe he actually said that.
I completely understand it being in this thread cause it is a head scratching comment for sure...
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She didn't say it in a derogatory way...she was born in like 1915 so it was learned behavior0 -
let me rephrase: I don't doubt he said that. I was more referring to the delay of the documents. was it him? was it his government? was it a breakdown somewhere down the chain? the buck stops with him, for sure. But when I see something like that without a link, a context, or anything, I'm naturally skeptical. no matter who it's about.1ThoughtKnown said:
The fifth estate is there to hold politicians accountable.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know the full context of this (source?). I honestly don't trust the media any more than I trust politicians these days.1ThoughtKnown said:“All the records in possession of the federal government have already been turned over to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation in Winnipeg,” Justin Trudeau October 2021This week - 875,000 pages of documents regarding the government-funded and church-ran residential schools used to assimilate indigenous youth in Canada was finally provided to the NCTR.Is it any wonder no one trusts politicians anymore?I’ve seen the clip of him saying it. The video is readily available. He said it while sitting next to the indigenous people he snubbed on Vancouver Island during the first National Day of Reconciliation Holiday. He was on the island, flocking around Long Beach…. but didn’t see the need to respond to their invitation to be a part of the historic day.He is all words, no substance. This on the back of the WE scandal where all he could do was apologize. His lack of awareness is astounding reallyBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
1) it is the government. delay in red tape type shit is commonplace. a few months to turn over that kind of paperwork isn't really all that to be surprised or upset about.1ThoughtKnown said:
The fifth estate is there to hold politicians accountable.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know the full context of this (source?). I honestly don't trust the media any more than I trust politicians these days.1ThoughtKnown said:“All the records in possession of the federal government have already been turned over to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation in Winnipeg,” Justin Trudeau October 2021This week - 875,000 pages of documents regarding the government-funded and church-ran residential schools used to assimilate indigenous youth in Canada was finally provided to the NCTR.Is it any wonder no one trusts politicians anymore?I’ve seen the clip of him saying it. The video is readily available. He said it while sitting next to the indigenous people he snubbed on Vancouver Island during the first National Day of Reconciliation Holiday. He was on the island, flocking around Long Beach…. but didn’t see the need to respond to their invitation to be a part of the historic day.He is all words, no substance. This on the back of the WE scandal where all he could do was apologize. His lack of awareness is astounding really
2) the first national day of reconciliation falls on the same day as the day he and his family travel annually to the site where his brother died in that skiing accident, and the media reported him "going surfing" or some bullshit.
I understand the distrust of politicians. But I think it's fair to understand my (or anyone's) distrust of the media.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
1) He lied. Unequivocally saying all documentation was provided, knowing damn well some of it was being withheld. If there was red tape, he should have worded his answer appropriately.HughFreakingDillon said:
1) it is the government. delay in red tape type shit is commonplace. a few months to turn over that kind of paperwork isn't really all that to be surprised or upset about.1ThoughtKnown said:
The fifth estate is there to hold politicians accountable.HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know the full context of this (source?). I honestly don't trust the media any more than I trust politicians these days.1ThoughtKnown said:“All the records in possession of the federal government have already been turned over to the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation in Winnipeg,” Justin Trudeau October 2021This week - 875,000 pages of documents regarding the government-funded and church-ran residential schools used to assimilate indigenous youth in Canada was finally provided to the NCTR.Is it any wonder no one trusts politicians anymore?I’ve seen the clip of him saying it. The video is readily available. He said it while sitting next to the indigenous people he snubbed on Vancouver Island during the first National Day of Reconciliation Holiday. He was on the island, flocking around Long Beach…. but didn’t see the need to respond to their invitation to be a part of the historic day.He is all words, no substance. This on the back of the WE scandal where all he could do was apologize. His lack of awareness is astounding really
2) the first national day of reconciliation falls on the same day as the day he and his family travel annually to the site where his brother died in that skiing accident, and the media reported him "going surfing" or some bullshit.
I understand the distrust of politicians. But I think it's fair to understand my (or anyone's) distrust of the media.
2) Whatever his excuse was, his lack of communication on such an important day for the country (the one he is supposed to lead) supersedes his own traditions, no matter what they may be. That, is the definition of leadership. Once again, astounding the lack of situational awareness. He still could have honoured his brother and attended as requested. He apologized for it, knowing he “made a mistake”. Why would you defend someone who admitted they were wrong? Laughable, but you are probably reading material which supports your obvious confirmation bias.If you consider “newstainment” journalism (first you are wrong, it isn’t) then your distrust of it is understandable. I don’t pay any of that 5 seconds of attention, whether it is Canadian or American. The talking heads BS means nothing to me. As with anything, pay attention to your sources… critical thinking, which is strongly lacking amongst the general population, is imperative.0 -
you are making a whole host of assumptions here, so have a fine day.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.
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when i first read the thread title, i honestly thought it was going to be about funny things people had said. i wasn't expecting this.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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and not all of us are that partisan. some of us just like all the information before tarring and feathering someone.bootlegger10 said:Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
😂HughFreakingDillon said:you are making a whole host of assumptions here, so have a fine day.
I’m making a whole host of assumptions hey. From the guy who “assumed” it was government “red tape” (not surprisingly… it wasn’t).0 -
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Ok here’s one of my favorites. It’s Donald Rumsfeld after a senator questioning him about the Iraq War says “Secretary Rumsfeld, the intelligence suggests otherwise…”HughFreakingDillon said:when i first read the thread title, i honestly thought it was going to be about funny things people had said. i wasn't expecting this.
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bootlegger10 said:Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?
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I could never imagine being a “fan” of a politician. It’s a strange world to me.brianlux said:bootlegger10 said:Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?0 -
Funny, folks still can’t tell the difference. Between “good trouble,” and “doing what is right.” Especially, when there is no alternative proposal, other than “no.”brianlux said:bootlegger10 said:Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?
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"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”
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Bentleyspop said:"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.AND that flag is specific to the army of virginia, adopted at the start of the civil war. where the attempted succesion states clearly state in their letters of succession AND the csa constitution it was about slavery.AND missouri was admitted as the last slave state. THAT is your heritage.
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It's so fucking weird. Bumper stickers and yard signs (close to an election) seem fairly normal but flags? Hats and shirts?1ThoughtKnown said:
I could never imagine being a “fan” of a politician. It’s a strange world to me.brianlux said:bootlegger10 said:Haha, I read this thread when it only had the first post. I thought to myself ‘this will go poorly’.
Liberals will try to defend stupid comments by liberals, and conservatives will try to defend stupid comments by conservatives. A nice experiment in human nature here.Well of course anyone would think it will go poorly. I made the damn thing and figured it would go poorly.. It's AMT, lol.Regarding your second statement, that seems normal to me. I mean really, how many Trump fans are going so say something good about a statement made by Biden or visa versa? How many McConnell fans (is there such a thing?) are going to say something good about a Pelosi statement? Totally natural in this polarized nation. And as long a Republicans continue to side with Trump, I think it has to stay polarized. How could it not?
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Or what does the confederate flag representmickeyrat said:
love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.Bentleyspop said:"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”0 -
losing a war 157 years ago and being completely unable to let it go?Bentleyspop said:
Or what does the confederate flag representmickeyrat said:
love to ask, ok then what does that mean to you, southern heritage.Bentleyspop said:"For you to come on my property and accuse me of something that absolutely has nothing to do with that Confederate flag except for my daughter’s heritage and my heritage is absolutely wrong.”Post edited by gimmesometruth27 on"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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