Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I’ve already said move the unvaccinated to field hospitals.  The feds spent 300 million on field hospitals lets use them and staff them with military personnel…the military does not need to in the Ukraine.

    But at this point I am fully vaccinated, but I look after my health and use cannabis in which studies have shown promise, I’m not just waiting for big pharma to save me,  but what people put in their own body is their own choice…you did not give a rats ass about spreading germs until you were told to care…
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I am actually shocked at the number of tRump supporters I know that are pro-vax.  You would think that would make them think about the party they support when 40% of them are rabid anti-vaxxers.
    What the fuck does trump got to do with Canada…there is a Trump thread, maybe  post in there…
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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,851
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I am actually shocked at the number of tRump supporters I know that are pro-vax.  You would think that would make them think about the party they support when 40% of them are rabid anti-vaxxers.
    I'm shocked that getting a vaccine has become political in any way.  It'll be interesting hopefully explaining this crap to any future grand children I have.   "Wait...... people needed to be convinced to get vaccinated?!"    "It's a long story, Junior." 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    PJ_Soul said:
    Parksy said:
    there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

    However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 
    Not to mention the scare tactic  comparison of Venezula.  I have no issue with being critical of any politician including Trudeau, but this stuff drives me nuts. 
    Totally agree. It's ridiculous. I saw some news clip last night with some Conservative trying to put direct blame on the supply shortage and inflation on Trudeau alone.... nothing he he said made much sense TBH - He was acting like it's solely a Canadian problem caused exclusively by deliberate and avoidable Canadian political/spending decisions. It really annoyed the fuck out of me.

    Lmfao.  No one is blaming everything on Trudeau.  But he is the PM and truckers work a very solitary life.  I know, I have family members in the business.  So there is no need for this ridiculous policy and forcing people to get a shot every 3 to 4 months is wrong and maybe it was always wrong.  believe in my body my choice.  Did you wear face mask before Covid? Stay home with every sniffle Before Covid..if not why.  Elderly dont well with cold, the flu and other viruses?

    Of course not.  Your only doing all that because you are being told?

    again, this comparison makes no sense. seniors are 5-15 times more likely to die from covid than the flu. these pathogens aren't the same, so our reactions to them as a society shouldn't be. it's also more about the health care system than it has about total deaths by numbers. it always has been. 

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I am actually shocked at the number of tRump supporters I know that are pro-vax.  You would think that would make them think about the party they support when 40% of them are rabid anti-vaxxers.
    What the fuck does trump got to do with Canada…there is a Trump thread, maybe  post in there…
    Lighten up Francis...I was merely backing up your statement that it isn't just liberals.  Although I'm not sure the people I know are too normal or sane.
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  • Parksy
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    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I’ve already said move the unvaccinated to field hospitals.  The feds spent 300 million on field hospitals lets use them and staff them with military personnel…the military does not need to in the Ukraine.

    But at this point I am fully vaccinated, but I look after my health and use cannabis in which studies have shown promise, I’m not just waiting for big pharma to save me,  but what people put in their own body is their own choice…you did not give a rats ass about spreading germs until you were told to care…
    Hopefully this makes sense....  You're right, I didn't wear a mask, etc. or care about spreading germs like I do now.  For the years I've spent in this country, a global pandemic hadn't wreaked as much havoc as COVID has. 

    I wouldn't worry about having a life jacket if I'm standing in 3 feet of water. 
    I don't use snow tires in the summer. 
    I use headlights at night, not the day. 
    I wear a mouth guard when I'm playing against a team that doesn't like me. 

    Circumstances dictate precautions. And circumstances haves a tendency to change. 

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  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,992
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

    As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

    If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

    As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
    If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 
    The point of the tweet was empty shelves in reference to chain issues in which I was having a conversation ration with…if you took offence that’s your problem…
    I don't take offence my man.. I just find some people's uneducated, uninformed, biased, out of context, and emotional hatred towards any politician completely counter productive.  

    Right now the narrative from the likes of Polieviere and O'Toole is to blame Trudeau for just about everything.   Housing costs, Trudeau. Supply chain issues, Trudeau. The dog that poops on the sidewalk... Trudeau! 
    Sounds just like Angrea (Andrea) Horwath here in Ontario, blaming everything on Doug Ford and his backroom deals.

    It’s unfortunate our politicians (of all stripes) have chosen to simply be the Opposition, not Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Has anyone seen any actual proof of vaccination from the politicians and public drs…afterall they work for us…why don’t they lead by example and post the QR code so we can verify…afterall  we are their employer.  
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I’ve already said move the unvaccinated to field hospitals.  The feds spent 300 million on field hospitals lets use them and staff them with military personnel…the military does not need to in the Ukraine.

    But at this point I am fully vaccinated, but I look after my health and use cannabis in which studies have shown promise, I’m not just waiting for big pharma to save me,  but what people put in their own body is their own choice…you did not give a rats ass about spreading germs until you were told to care…
    Hopefully this makes sense....  You're right, I didn't wear a mask, etc. or care about spreading germs like I do now.  For the years I've spent in this country, a global pandemic hadn't wreaked as much havoc as COVID has. 

    I wouldn't worry about having a life jacket if I'm standing in 3 feet of water. 
    I don't use snow tires in the summer. 
    I use headlights at night, not the day. 
    I wear a mouth guard when I'm playing against a team that doesn't like me. 

    Circumstances dictate precautions. And circumstances haves a tendency to change. 

    I think people should get vaccinated.  And I also did not give germ spreading and mask wearing a thought before this either, as most us did not…but it’s not like we did not know?  Asians often wear mask.  I just am just not going to vilify the unvaccinated at this point…because none of really know at this point.   We could be chasing variants for years.  I don’t think a plan b would hurt and sharing it with us would be a good and transparent thing to do.  Would it hurt for the premiers and PM to hold a healthcare summit?

    and there is plenty of criticism for Ford.  My biggest one right now is the current lockdown.  CERB has been cut to 300, he throw these workers out of work…I’m sure if he asked Trudeau to double the cerb and Ontario would cover 1/2 Trudeau gladly would…casino workers and theater workers have been hard hit…but no support for the workers from the province…

    I live in a small town that has seen small business close up, other small towns are experience similar problems…businesses that could be saved and were on the brink because of Covid should have been saved…it will take years, maybe never before my small town is revived…I’d sure like to see some stimulate money in the budget to help keep business going…

    But there is no shortage of Cannabis stores and new ones opening all the time…

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:

    So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

    Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.


    .......   huh? 

    Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

    Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

    There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 
    I am actually shocked at the number of tRump supporters I know that are pro-vax.  You would think that would make them think about the party they support when 40% of them are rabid anti-vaxxers.
    What the fuck does trump got to do with Canada…there is a Trump thread, maybe  post in there…
    Lighten up Francis...I was merely backing up your statement that it isn't just liberals.  Although I'm not sure the people I know are too normal or sane.
    My apologies.  Just sick of seeing Trumps name everywhere.  He’s Americas problem now…no place for his name in here.  
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  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,851
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

    As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

    If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

    As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
    If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 
    The point of the tweet was empty shelves in reference to chain issues in which I was having a conversation ration with…if you took offence that’s your problem…
    I don't take offence my man.. I just find some people's uneducated, uninformed, biased, out of context, and emotional hatred towards any politician completely counter productive.  

    Right now the narrative from the likes of Polieviere and O'Toole is to blame Trudeau for just about everything.   Housing costs, Trudeau. Supply chain issues, Trudeau. The dog that poops on the sidewalk... Trudeau! 
    Sounds just like Angrea (Andrea) Horwath here in Ontario, blaming everything on Doug Ford and his backroom deals.

    It’s unfortunate our politicians (of all stripes) have chosen to simply be the Opposition, not Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
    I understand why they try to score points by attacking, but it doesn't make sense to me at all. 

    I compare it to a coach sitting in the stands doing nothing but chirping the other coach in an attempt to take his job.  Like what GM in their right mind would be swayed by that?  

    Cool....  they messed up.  Now explain to me how? and What would you have done differently under the same circumstances?  Simple. I'm waiting for a politician to do that.  Treat their constituents like they have half a brain. 
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  • Zod
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    Parksy said:
    Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

    As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

    If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

    As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
    If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 
    could thing we eliminated the problems then.... lol... consequences be damned :)
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Parksy said:
    Parksy said:
    Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

    As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

    If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

    As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
    If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 
    The point of the tweet was empty shelves in reference to chain issues in which I was having a conversation ration with…if you took offence that’s your problem…
    I don't take offence my man.. I just find some people's uneducated, uninformed, biased, out of context, and emotional hatred towards any politician completely counter productive.  

    Right now the narrative from the likes of Polieviere and O'Toole is to blame Trudeau for just about everything.   Housing costs, Trudeau. Supply chain issues, Trudeau. The dog that poops on the sidewalk... Trudeau! 
    Sounds just like Angrea (Andrea) Horwath here in Ontario, blaming everything on Doug Ford and his backroom deals.

    It’s unfortunate our politicians (of all stripes) have chosen to simply be the Opposition, not Her Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
    If Andrea or del duca was in charge things would be much worse…some in the media was critiquing ford because he was helping people get unstuck after the storm.  Too bad the media did not do their job like question the politicians and health administration who are in charge of disease management system…but 600 billion buys loyalty.  But instead the media is part of the division…I hope the truckers stand firm…
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Well, maybe it was Canada trying to overthrow the US? We need a wall!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-help-track-down-rioters-capitol-1.5869389
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  • Meltdown99
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  • Meltdown99
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    Well, maybe it was Canada trying to overthrow the US? We need a wall!

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canadians-help-track-down-rioters-capitol-1.5869389
    It’s not your land dude, it’s not my land dude…it’s stolen land your living on. You owe your livelihood to stolen land…of course land stealing Canadians are going to side with you…your all the same…wow is me. You committed the worlds largest genocide then whine when like a 2 year old when a few people get unruly and a bunch about of career leech politicians who have been profiting on stolen land felt threatened…GOOD. Too bad Nancy pelosi and her ilk are too dense to ever put themselves in the foot of the original owners of North America…the aboriginal that were slaughtered so some disgruntled Europeans could steal the land… And the aboriginals had far superior democracy that you’ll ever fucking have…
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    wow is me.

    I think that needs to be on a t shirt. 
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  • Meltdown99
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    Most of us are locked down because of Toronto..No other reason. Toronto runs this province and don’t give a shit about anyone else…they are the most selfish city in Canada…
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    They will when they are told by government…
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