Canadian Politics Redux

Nami

Whats this, a trucker convoy to Ottawa?

Meltdown99

Truckers are protesting forced vaccinations on them.  Truckers work the majority of the alone.  There are other health safety measures that truckers could use.  This is an industry that is extremely short staffed at the best of times, so these mandates are just going to harm the supply chain and leave store shelves empty…will lead to higher inflation.  

Just like the dummies running our hospitals in on Ontario who terminated unvaccinated staff and left out hospitals short this policy is extremely short sighted.

You can’t expect people to take a shot every 3 - 4 months.  And if the vaccine worked still, then why does the Pfizer CEO say that their will be an omnicron specific vaccine around March?  The whole thing is crazy…even crazier is people still believe that there is anyone who knows what there doing…

Nami

Meltdown99 said:

Truckers are protesting forced vaccinations on them.  Truckers work the majority of the alone.  There are other health safety measures that truckers could use.  This is an industry that is extremely short staffed at the best of times, so these mandates are just going to harm the supply chain and leave store shelves empty…will lead to higher inflation.  

Just like the dummies running our hospitals in on Ontario who terminated unvaccinated staff and left out hospitals short this policy is extremely short sighted.

You can’t expect people to take a shot every 3 - 4 months.  And if the vaccine worked still, then why does the Pfizer CEO say that their will be an omnicron specific vaccine around March?  The whole thing is crazy…even crazier is people still believe that there is anyone who knows what there doing…

Yup, just wondering, are you seeing food shortages/empty shelves in Ont?  Hard to go by the news lately... 

A couple weeks ago our local Dominion (Loblaws chain) was like that but bounced back shortly thereafter.   this is going to get worse.

I wish we could call a new election. Ha

Meltdown99

Nami said:

Meltdown99 said:

Truckers are protesting forced vaccinations on them.  Truckers work the majority of the alone.  There are other health safety measures that truckers could use.  This is an industry that is extremely short staffed at the best of times, so these mandates are just going to harm the supply chain and leave store shelves empty…will lead to higher inflation.  

Just like the dummies running our hospitals in on Ontario who terminated unvaccinated staff and left out hospitals short this policy is extremely short sighted.

You can’t expect people to take a shot every 3 - 4 months.  And if the vaccine worked still, then why does the Pfizer CEO say that their will be an omnicron specific vaccine around March?  The whole thing is crazy…even crazier is people still believe that there is anyone who knows what there doing…

Yup, just wondering, are you seeing food shortages/empty shelves in Ont?  Hard to go by the news lately... 

A couple weeks ago our local Dominion (Loblaws chain) was like that but bounced back shortly thereafter.   this is going to get worse.

I wish we could call a new election. Ha

Yes we are and I live in southern Ontario home to an extremely large greenhouse industry…not seeing fresh veggies was surprising.  

How bout’ out your way?

Nami

Meltdown99 said:

Nami said:

Meltdown99 said:

Truckers are protesting forced vaccinations on them.  Truckers work the majority of the alone.  There are other health safety measures that truckers could use.  This is an industry that is extremely short staffed at the best of times, so these mandates are just going to harm the supply chain and leave store shelves empty…will lead to higher inflation.  

Just like the dummies running our hospitals in on Ontario who terminated unvaccinated staff and left out hospitals short this policy is extremely short sighted.

You can’t expect people to take a shot every 3 - 4 months.  And if the vaccine worked still, then why does the Pfizer CEO say that their will be an omnicron specific vaccine around March?  The whole thing is crazy…even crazier is people still believe that there is anyone who knows what there doing…

Yup, just wondering, are you seeing food shortages/empty shelves in Ont?  Hard to go by the news lately... 

A couple weeks ago our local Dominion (Loblaws chain) was like that but bounced back shortly thereafter.   this is going to get worse.

I wish we could call a new election. Ha

Yes we are and I live in southern Ontario home to an extremely large greenhouse industry…not seeing fresh veggies was surprising.  

How bout’ out your way?

Hard to say with weather issues/ ferry cancellations.   Fresh foods is always hit or miss but the week I was previously talking about, the frozen food aisle, was almost bare.  

Time to stock up on TP lol

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/vivianbercovici/status/1484057477788450821?s=21

Parksy

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/vivianbercovici/status/1484057477788450821?s=21

Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 

HughFreakingDillon

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Parksy

HughFreakingDillon said:

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Not to mention the scare tactic  comparison of Venezula.  I have no issue with being critical of any politician including Trudeau, but this stuff drives me nuts. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Good point - I would say that that store in the photo doesn't even look open - it looks like after-hours to me.

FWIW, I have not seen anything remotely like that in any store. There is no produce shortage to really take note of - a few items aren't there, but it's not going to have an impact on anything other than someone who feels super picky. I have noticed that a lot of yogurt brands are in shorter supply... again, I don't think it's causing anyone to go hungry, lol. It's just making yogurt fans a bit disappointed when they can't get their favourite brand. I have heard that some smaller communities may be having more issues... but I haven't seen anything to convince me that people are going hungry because of all this. It more seems like it's just hard for people who have always been spoiled with insane variety to adjust to less variety for a while (not that the supply chain issue in general isn't a big deal - it really really is, and hurts the economy obviously .... I would argue it's not a surprising big deal thought, during a 2 year long pandemic).

PJ_Soul

Parksy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Not to mention the scare tactic  comparison of Venezula.  I have no issue with being critical of any politician including Trudeau, but this stuff drives me nuts. 

Totally agree. It's ridiculous. I saw some news clip last night with some Conservative trying to put direct blame on the supply shortage and inflation on Trudeau alone.... nothing he he said made much sense TBH - He was acting like it's solely a Canadian problem caused exclusively by deliberate and avoidable Canadian political/spending decisions. It really annoyed the fuck out of me.

PJ_Soul

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/vivianbercovici/status/1484057477788450821?s=21

Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 

Agree again!

Meltdown99

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Not to mention the scare tactic  comparison of Venezula.  I have no issue with being critical of any politician including Trudeau, but this stuff drives me nuts. 

Totally agree. It's ridiculous. I saw some news clip last night with some Conservative trying to put direct blame on the supply shortage and inflation on Trudeau alone.... nothing he he said made much sense TBH - He was acting like it's solely a Canadian problem caused exclusively by deliberate and avoidable Canadian political/spending decisions. It really annoyed the fuck out of me.

Lmfao.  No one is blaming everything on Trudeau.  But he is the PM and truckers work a very solitary life.  I know, I have family members in the business.  So there is no need for this ridiculous policy and forcing people to get a shot every 3 to 4 months is wrong and maybe it was always wrong.  believe in my body my choice.  Did you wear face mask before Covid? Stay home with every sniffle Before Covid..if not why.  Elderly dont well with cold, the flu and other viruses?

Of course not.  Your only doing all that because you are being told?

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/roman_baber/status/1483853557812113410?s=21

How come these politicians never point the finger at themselves and the hospital administrators who have run the system in ground hound…

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Parksy said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there's definitely shortages of some things here in Winnipeg. Prices for fresh food is skyrocketing. Pretty soon a Happy meal will be cheaper than stalk of celery. 

However, I don't like pictures like that. Zero context. when was it taken? at the end of the day when they aren't restocking fresh food? or middle of the day? no way to tell. 

Not to mention the scare tactic  comparison of Venezula.  I have no issue with being critical of any politician including Trudeau, but this stuff drives me nuts. 

Totally agree. It's ridiculous. I saw some news clip last night with some Conservative trying to put direct blame on the supply shortage and inflation on Trudeau alone.... nothing he he said made much sense TBH - He was acting like it's solely a Canadian problem caused exclusively by deliberate and avoidable Canadian political/spending decisions. It really annoyed the fuck out of me.

Lmfao.  No one is blaming everything on Trudeau.  But he is the PM and truckers work a very solitary life.  I know, I have family members in the business.  So there is no need for this ridiculous policy and forcing people to get a shot every 3 to 4 months is wrong and maybe it was always wrong.  believe in my body my choice.  Did you wear face mask before Covid? Stay home with every sniffle Before Covid..if not why.  Elderly dont well with cold, the flu and other viruses?

Of course not.  Your only doing all that because you are being told?

Err, yeah, the guy I saw on the news yesterday was indeed blaming everything on Trudeau. Like I said. Unfortunately I don't remember his name.

Meltdown99

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/vivianbercovici/status/1484057477788450821?s=21

Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 

The point of the tweet was empty shelves in reference to chain issues in which I was having a conversation ration with…if you took offence that’s your problem…

Meltdown99

So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.

Parksy

Meltdown99 said:

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/vivianbercovici/status/1484057477788450821?s=21

Truckers should just get vaxxed if that's the case. Plain and simple. You've got every sane part of the medical field on the planet saying that vaccines are the best way out of this, and people still refuse to get them. 

As for blaming Trudeau... OK sure, for SOME of the issues.  But I've seen folks on my social medias encouraging to stock up.  In other words... PEOPLE, not the government trying to convince other PEOPLE to hoard. 

If you want to look at these shortages as problems with solutions then you need to look at every cause of the problem. 

As a consumer, if you're buying and hoarding more than you need, you're part of the problem. 
If you're a trucker and you're choosing not to be vaccinated when you can, you're part of the problem. 

The point of the tweet was empty shelves in reference to chain issues in which I was having a conversation ration with…if you took offence that’s your problem…

I don't take offence my man.. I just find some people's uneducated, uninformed, biased, out of context, and emotional hatred towards any politician completely counter productive.  

Right now the narrative from the likes of Polieviere and O'Toole is to blame Trudeau for just about everything.   Housing costs, Trudeau. Supply chain issues, Trudeau. The dog that poops on the sidewalk... Trudeau! 

Parksy

Meltdown99 said:

So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.

.......   huh? 

Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 

Gern Blansten

Parksy said:

Meltdown99 said:

So I guess you don’t trust the vaccine if your worried about a an unvaccinated trucker.  Do you think the truckers are pulling over and licking your produce?

Hope you stay home in case you come into contact with an unvaccinated instead grocery store worker…etc.

.......   huh? 

Look dude... my opinions regarding vaccines goes well beyond my personal health. Take a look at the health care workers that are burning out presently trying to take care of COVID patients, predominantly unvaccinated. Share your sentiments with them.  Vaccines are a part of the solution. I'm trying to be a part of the solution.  

Every vaccine policy you're seeing up to and including this trucker policy has one goal in mind:  Get. People. Vaccinated.  Hell, Alberta even tried paying people. 

There is a reason normal, sane people are trying to push vaccines. Not just the Liberals, but every party with the exception of PPC.  We all seem to want the same thing.  Less sick people. Less death. Back to normal life as soon as possible.  For our health, for our economy, for our enjoyment.  People are choosing themselves over their society and then complaining that the same society they don't want to help is being unfair to them. It's the ultimate double standard. 

I am actually shocked at the number of tRump supporters I know that are pro-vax.  You would think that would make them think about the party they support when 40% of them are rabid anti-vaxxers.