2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
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  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    edited December 2021
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
    I don’t really see that as the band’s concern. They play internationally, abroad fans will have a chance to see them. 

    I wouldn’t want them scheduling their Europe/Australia/South America shows around whether or not people from the US can come.
    Post edited by OceansJenny on
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  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
    I don’t really see that as the band’s concern. They play internationally, abroad fans will have a chance to see them. 

    I wouldn’t want them scheduling their Europe shows around whether or not people from the US can come.
    Totally hear ya. Could you imagine the anarchy on this forum if fans from US couldn’t get to Europe shows due to travel restrictions? 
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  • uglybabo
    uglybabo Posts: 530
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
    I don’t really see that as the band’s concern. They play internationally, abroad fans will have a chance to see them. 

    I wouldn’t want them scheduling their Europe shows around whether or not people from the US can come.
    Totally hear ya. Could you imagine the anarchy on this forum if fans from US couldn’t get to Europe shows due to travel restrictions? 
    If there were European travel restrictions for Americans how could the band and their crew get there?
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    ddeschler said:
    Zod said:I kind of thought they might wait longer when Omicron news came out, but then the Eddie tour got announce, so who knows the thought processes at this point
    I was also surprised with the timing of the announcement of the EV tour.  Same guy/band who were first to cancel and last to reschedule.  I guess the insurance company will cover it if they have to cancel.  I would be interested to know what thresholds or escalation of a pandemic that was in place at the time of the announcement of a tour are covered by insurance.  I think we're all in uncharted territory here, legally and as a society.
    The US is not shutting down again for Covid.  My opinion, but I can’t imagine it happening. The prior shutdown only delayed the inevitable. The public will not support it 
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    ddeschler said:
    Zod said:I kind of thought they might wait longer when Omicron news came out, but then the Eddie tour got announce, so who knows the thought processes at this point
    I was also surprised with the timing of the announcement of the EV tour.  Same guy/band who were first to cancel and last to reschedule.  I guess the insurance company will cover it if they have to cancel.  I would be interested to know what thresholds or escalation of a pandemic that was in place at the time of the announcement of a tour are covered by insurance.  I think we're all in uncharted territory here, legally and as a society.
    The US is not shutting down again for Covid.  My opinion, but I can’t imagine it happening. The prior shutdown only delayed the inevitable. The public will not support it 

    Except a lot of it is done at the state level.  If Omicron does pose a problem, I would gather the response would be different state by state.   America is far from a cohesive unit on this front.
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    uglybabo said:
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
    I don’t really see that as the band’s concern. They play internationally, abroad fans will have a chance to see them. 

    I wouldn’t want them scheduling their Europe shows around whether or not people from the US can come.
    Totally hear ya. Could you imagine the anarchy on this forum if fans from US couldn’t get to Europe shows due to travel restrictions? 
    If there were European travel restrictions for Americans how could the band and their crew get there?
    Haha great point. Touché. 
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  • biz999
    biz999 Posts: 174
    uglybabo said:
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    DM282158 said:
    In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

    Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 
    We don’t think we can sell out these shows nationally?
    I’m sure they would in minutes. But I feel like the band would feel terrible having to force the hands of fans from foreign countries with tickets who can no longer attend due to reasons outside of their control. 

    Plus as it relates to public health issues that dictate international travel restrictions. 
    I don’t really see that as the band’s concern. They play internationally, abroad fans will have a chance to see them. 

    I wouldn’t want them scheduling their Europe shows around whether or not people from the US can come.
    Totally hear ya. Could you imagine the anarchy on this forum if fans from US couldn’t get to Europe shows due to travel restrictions? 
    If there were European travel restrictions for Americans how could the band and their crew get there?
    I know it's not your point, but there have always been exceptions if your job requires you to travel.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,373
    Could use those fixed North American 2022 dates right about now.
  • johnny__utah
    johnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 201
    All I want for Christmas this year is the tour dates to finally get posted.
  • Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    the crowds would be terrible. 
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  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,373
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    No please. 
  • demetrios said:
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    No please. 
    2nd this sentiment 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,117
    demetrios said:
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    No please. 
    2nd this sentiment 
    3rd.  ;)
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  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    Heck no. 
  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    This isn’t that far from what they do now? 15-20 shows every few years and some big ballpark shows for people to travel to?

    I know it sucks for people who can’t swing the travel, and others don’t like it for some other reason, but it’s just the reality right now: if you want to see Pearl Jam you can’t just wait for them to come to you. 
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  • tdawe said:
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    This isn’t that far from what they do now? 15-20 shows every few years and some big ballpark shows for people to travel to?

    I know it sucks for people who can’t swing the travel, and others don’t like it for some other reason, but it’s just the reality right now: if you want to see Pearl Jam you can’t just wait for them to come to you. 
    That’s why as much as I prefer them to tour, the fact that they don’t play that many shows I’d take ~30 shows a year in Seattle over what we’re getting now. They don’t play most parts of the country anyway so most are already traveling already. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    tdawe said:
    Radical idea/thought : how would react if they decided to stop touring and play four shows a month in Seattle and allow fans to come to them? Then you can play 15-20 tour dates every few years if they want to hit the road. 
    This isn’t that far from what they do now? 15-20 shows every few years and some big ballpark shows for people to travel to?

    I know it sucks for people who can’t swing the travel, and others don’t like it for some other reason, but it’s just the reality right now: if you want to see Pearl Jam you can’t just wait for them to come to you. 
    that's different from becoming Seattle's weekly house band. 
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