2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,565
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,634
    nicknyr15 said:
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
    As stated before, impossible! :)
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  • lmckenney24lmckenney24 Posts: 2,005
    Noload said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
    As stated before, impossible! :)
    As the great Kevin Garnett once stated, anything is possible!!!
  • patkelly12patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    Why limit one's stupidity to just a single page?
  • CJ260717CJ260717 Posts: 414
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Zod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds.  Problem solved.  

    That would create a whole new world of problems.    Are outdoor venues available in the cities.  How do you handle rallocating tickets?  What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less?  who's tickets are you going to cancel?   How do you redo seat location.'

    Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
    Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option.  Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada. 
     
    Alright, I’m finally going to ask.   What the hell is a shed? 
    I'm a big fan of sheds!  shed is typically a simple, single-story roofed structure in a back garden or on an allotment that is used for storage...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shed
  • ChoskaChoska Posts: 123
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Zod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds.  Problem solved.  

    That would create a whole new world of problems.    Are outdoor venues available in the cities.  How do you handle rallocating tickets?  What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less?  who's tickets are you going to cancel?   How do you redo seat location.'

    Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
    Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option.  Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada. 
     
    Alright, I’m finally going to ask.   What the hell is a shed? 
    Technically aren't those outdoor amphitheaters more like very elaborate lean-tos than sheds? 
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  • CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,363
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    D-Rod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Zod said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds.  Problem solved.  

    That would create a whole new world of problems.    Are outdoor venues available in the cities.  How do you handle rallocating tickets?  What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less?  who's tickets are you going to cancel?   How do you redo seat location.'

    Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
    Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option.  Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada. 
     
    Alright, I’m finally going to ask.   What the hell is a shed? 
    amphitheaters.  :)
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    Ok, got ya.  Bring on the sheds, closets and garages 
    😂
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,564
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,920
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,026
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    They can when the tickets are already sold.  There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days.
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 527
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    They can when the tickets are already sold.  There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days. 
    I think someone already mentioned this, but with Jeff saying that Eddie’s tour is like a trial to see how this goes, we may not get anything concrete till the end of the February - and that’s if everything goes smoothly. 

    If the shows are even 60% sold out, they won’t need much lead time. I think overall there will be less travel to see these shows than a normal PJ tour. 
  • They need to reschedule these already so those of us in cities that got passed over can get unrealistically optimistic and ultimately passed over again for the next tour. 

    Until this tour in the books, it's really bleak on when/if they will ever come back to mine, and i'm guessing, many many others' cities.
  • RyanRyan Posts: 1,129
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows.
    2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show.
    If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,564
    edited January 2022
    Ryan said:
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows.
    2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show.
    If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
    I can respect this research and numbers but am hoping that they do not wait that long. I am very impatient as are thousands of other fans lol. I guess if there is a possibility that they announce now and postpone again rather than wait another month to be sure I will take the month wait. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,026
    I hope they announce the rest of the year as well.  Assuming more shows after Europe.  
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    Yes! Please announce all at once.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • NoloadNoload Monticello, Georgia Posts: 1,634
    mcgruff10 said:
    Yes! Please announce all at once.  
    You new here?   ;)
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,614
    Noload said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Yes! Please announce all at once.  
    You new here?   ;)
    You know it!  Just heard evenflow for the first time!  Epic brooooo.  I can’t wait to mosh to it!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 527
    I hope they announce the rest of the year as well.  Assuming more shows after Europe.  
    Me too, but with COVID I think the best we can hope for is here are May/June dates and the fall dates will be begin in (insert month here). 
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,483
    mcgruff10 said:
    Noload said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Yes! Please announce all at once.  
    You new here?   ;)
    You know it!  Just heard evenflow for the first time!  Epic brooooo.  I can’t wait to mosh to it!!
    LOL
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,434
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    They can when the tickets are already sold.  There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days.
    Tool had several sold out shows on their tour and a few upcoming are sold out with others getting close.  Arenas are selling out for the good shows.

    No rumors on prospective dates to me means this is pretty far away from announcement.  I really hope it is before March though as I don't even live in the same part of the country.
  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,071
    nicknyr15 said:
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
    Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,565
    nicknyr15 said:
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
    Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
    Are you kidding? Every post like yours goes down the same. I’ll come here to 15 new posts about Covid. There’s literally a thread in AMT to argue about your feelings on the pandemic. 
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows.  And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).

    My opinion is different.  I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it.  I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines.  But still....Been waiting 2 years.  I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
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  • RR258111RR258111 São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 60
    I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows.  And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).

    My opinion is different.  I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it.  I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines.  But still....Been waiting 2 years.  I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
    I agree... this scenario is complete different than a regular tour.....please, release the dates !

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  • wsimon74wsimon74 Posts: 505
    I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows.  And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).

    My opinion is different.  I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it.  I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines.  But still....Been waiting 2 years.  I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
    agree 100%.  Sorry if this has been already discussed, but, at this point, you have loyal fans who have clung to their tickets for nearly two years now, and the "regular rules" about date announcements really shouldn't apply. They've already announced their intentions to play in the spring, so I honestly don't understand the hesitation in announcing the dates sooner rather than later to allow people to plan around those dates.  Unless there are things happening behind the scenes that prevent such an announcement, I really see the delay as a disservice to their loyal fans. 
  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,906
    Ryan said:
    PJNB said:
    Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow! 
    I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."

    If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark.  I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
    2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows.
    2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show.
    If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
    If they are playing Wrigley and Fenway this summer those shows are usually announced in January. 
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  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 527
    wsimon74 said:
    I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows.  And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).

    My opinion is different.  I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it.  I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines.  But still....Been waiting 2 years.  I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
    agree 100%.  Sorry if this has been already discussed, but, at this point, you have loyal fans who have clung to their tickets for nearly two years now, and the "regular rules" about date announcements really shouldn't apply. They've already announced their intentions to play in the spring, so I honestly don't understand the hesitation in announcing the dates sooner rather than later to allow people to plan around those dates.  Unless there are things happening behind the scenes that prevent such an announcement, I really see the delay as a disservice to their loyal fans. 
    Their intention to play this spring (May) was announced in November pre omicron. They’re probably reassessing based on how the solo tour is going to go. 
  • lexicondevillexicondevil Posts: 2,071
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    3days said:
    Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean:
    - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
    - longer waits due to room, equipment availability
    - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures

    If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts. 
    All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
    😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this. 
    Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
    Are you kidding? Every post like yours goes down the same. I’ll come here to 15 new posts about Covid. There’s literally a thread in AMT to argue about your feelings on the pandemic. 
    Sorry if I hurt your feelings talking about something that is affecting tour cancellations. Just responded to another post. Not arguing with anyone, except maybe you now... Have a swell day!
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,566
    I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows.  And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).

    My opinion is different.  I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it.  I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines.  But still....Been waiting 2 years.  I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
    I agree. If we have to wait until early March to get these May dates I'm going to be pretty annoyed. I'm not one to get annoyed at short tour dates announcements but I've been holding out for 2 years now and will need to schedule vacation , book a hotel and a flight for the show I am going to.  I'll make it work whenever it gets announced but for a rescheduled date sooner is better than later.
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