2022 North American rumour thread take 2

demetrios

Wish they confirmed the official NA 2022 dates right about now. 

JimmyV

demetrios said:

Wish they confirmed the official NA 2022 dates right about now. 

Yep. 

jefft

It would be nice

OceansJenny

demetrios said:

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

Earthlings in February, makeup dates in May, Europe in June and July, Ed at Ohana in September. 

Aside from maybe a few ballparks in August or September, I'm not sure I see them adding many more shows in 2022. 

Fall after Ohana will likely be leg 2. I am going to take a guess and say Canada is in November. 

But it's a whole 'nother year. :(   

😂 perfectly placed

D-Rod

demetrios said:

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

Earthlings in February, makeup dates in May, Europe in June and July, Ed at Ohana in September. 

Aside from maybe a few ballparks in August or September, I'm not sure I see them adding many more shows in 2022. 

Fall after Ohana will likely be leg 2. I am going to take a guess and say Canada is in November. 

But it's a whole 'nother year. :(   

But it’s only one more season 

Lost In Ohio

JimmyV said:

Earthlings in February, makeup dates in May, Europe in June and July, Ed at Ohana in September. 

Aside from maybe a few ballparks in August or September, I'm not sure I see them adding many more shows in 2022. 

Hold on with that ballpark statement.

The baseball team owners just locked their players out. If the labor dispute doesn't get resolved by the middle of February (when players begin reporting to spring training), the possibility exists of games being canceled.

If that happens, the shit hits the fan. You're then talking about a revised or shortened baseball schedule.

And if the schedule is shortened, it will have to be re-made like the 2020 schedule was.

And if THAT happens, then what happens to concerts if the teams decide in April that they'll need their stadium for two weeks in the middle of August that were previously available?

Zod

demetrios said:

Wish they confirmed the official NA 2022 dates right about now. 

I kind of thought they might wait longer when Omicron news came out, but then the Eddie tour got announce, so who knows the thought processes at this point.

MakeUSmile

Zod said:

demetrios said:

Wish they confirmed the official NA 2022 dates right about now. 

I kind of thought they might wait longer when Omicron news came out, but then the Eddie tour got announce, so who knows the thought processes at this point.

 As of 2 weeks ago, the tour route was still being worked on and dates were not locked in. At least that was the case for MSG. 

ddeschler

Zod said:I kind of thought they might wait longer when Omicron news came out, but then the Eddie tour got announce, so who knows the thought processes at this point

I was also surprised with the timing of the announcement of the EV tour.  Same guy/band who were first to cancel and last to reschedule.  I guess the insurance company will cover it if they have to cancel.  I would be interested to know what thresholds or escalation of a pandemic that was in place at the time of the announcement of a tour are covered by insurance.  I think we're all in uncharted territory here, legally and as a society.

JojoRice

Weird Al just announced 130 shows for 2022. PJ eat your heart out! Don't care who you are, that's an impressive amount of shows. 

Zod

JojoRice said:

Weird Al just announced 130 shows for 2022. PJ eat your heart out! Don't care who you are, that's an impressive amount of shows. 

That's a crazy amount.  Either he really loves touring, or he needs some $$ ?

Or he's stuck in that zone where you only have so many years you can probably tour and you need to build the nestegg while you can.

biz999

JojoRice said:

Weird Al just announced 130 shows for 2022. PJ eat your heart out! Don't care who you are, that's an impressive amount of shows. 

I have no shame admitting I am excited for this!

drakeheuer14

In a weird way I am glad this tour was postponed. I might be able to hit 3 shows because of the new dates. I am assuming (hoping) a decent amount of tix will be up for grabs to st louis and okc when they open fan to fan again. 

CopperTom

Lost In Ohio said:

JimmyV said:

Earthlings in February, makeup dates in May, Europe in June and July, Ed at Ohana in September. 

Aside from maybe a few ballparks in August or September, I'm not sure I see them adding many more shows in 2022. 

Hold on with that ballpark statement.

The baseball team owners just locked their players out. If the labor dispute doesn't get resolved by the middle of February (when players begin reporting to spring training), the possibility exists of games being canceled.

If that happens, the shit hits the fan. You're then talking about a revised or shortened baseball schedule.

And if the schedule is shortened, it will have to be re-made like the 2020 schedule was.

And if THAT happens, then what happens to concerts if the teams decide in April that they'll need their stadium for two weeks in the middle of August that were previously available?

MLB always allows teams to request dates that teams are home and dates teams are away.  Having away games on days when the stadium is already scheduled for an event should not be an issue.

From what I understand, with the exception of Memorial Day, Independence Day and Labor Day, these requests are almost always honored.

HughFreakingDillon

DM282158 said:

Wasn’t Jeff quoted as saying “I don’t want to get into a situation of checking 18,000 vax cards every time”. Of course this was back in the early fall (Ohana and SeaHearNow) had checks. I paraphrase but just reminding and contributing to the discussion. 

I was curious about what he actually meant by that. was he concerned about the logistics of performing these checks and starting to play to a half empty arena with the other half waiting to get scanned? or was he against the checking of vaxxed status at all? 

DM282158

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

Wasn’t Jeff quoted as saying “I don’t want to get into a situation of checking 18,000 vax cards every time”. Of course this was back in the early fall (Ohana and SeaHearNow) had checks. I paraphrase but just reminding and contributing to the discussion. 

I was curious about what he actually meant by that. was he concerned about the logistics of performing these checks and starting to play to a half empty arena with the other half waiting to get scanned? or was he against the checking of vaxxed status at all? 

Great question. I wasn’t able to tell. 

It’s a logistical nightmare that’s for sure. A handful of ushers checking ID and cards of 18,000 people who are impatient waiting to get into venue and half in the bag. When they’re working for $12-$15 an hour. No thanks on that one. Don’t blame them one for bit for just saying “just get the hell in there”. 

I fully understand how venues need to do this given the times we’re in. But it’s the same as enforcing mask mandates on the same amount of people. Essentially impossible. 

Maybe Jeff was just being practical. 

DM282158

In my opinion, it needs to be stated again how international travel restrictions may very well have played heavily into the touring schedule. The band knows thousands of fans buy tickets from abroad. Without the allowance to travel to the US from foreign countries; lots of fans are shit out of luck and many tickets having to be given back. Sucks from an ethical standpoint point as well as a business perspective. 

Jeff even stated that for the Toronto show, specifically, that Ten Club fans from 7 different countries bought tickets. 

HughFreakingDillon

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

Wasn’t Jeff quoted as saying “I don’t want to get into a situation of checking 18,000 vax cards every time”. Of course this was back in the early fall (Ohana and SeaHearNow) had checks. I paraphrase but just reminding and contributing to the discussion. 

I was curious about what he actually meant by that. was he concerned about the logistics of performing these checks and starting to play to a half empty arena with the other half waiting to get scanned? or was he against the checking of vaxxed status at all? 

Great question. I wasn’t able to tell. 

It’s a logistical nightmare that’s for sure. A handful of ushers checking ID and cards of 18,000 people who are impatient waiting to get into venue and half in the bag. When they’re working for $12-$15 an hour. No thanks on that one. Don’t blame them one for bit for just saying “just get the hell in there”. 

I fully understand how venues need to do this given the times we’re in. But it’s the same as enforcing mask mandates on the same amount of people. Essentially impossible. 

Maybe Jeff was just being practical. 

It's actually not a logistical nightmare at all. Winnipeg Blue Bombers (local CFL team) started doing this in the summer. People would form long lines for bag checks/ticket scans, as normal, which have always been pretty quick and painless, and they had extra staff (that's the key) starting earlier on in the line checking vax cards/ID's. it literally had zero effect on wait times to get in. 

now, if someone was found not to be fully vaxxed, I don't know how they handled it. did they alert security to not allow them in? did they ask they remove themselves from the line and go home? not sure. but it was a seamless procedure, and no significant infection spikes after games of 30,000 people sitting together, getting beers/hot dogs/shouting/whistling/etc. 

it can be done. 

DM282158

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DM282158 said:

Wasn’t Jeff quoted as saying “I don’t want to get into a situation of checking 18,000 vax cards every time”. Of course this was back in the early fall (Ohana and SeaHearNow) had checks. I paraphrase but just reminding and contributing to the discussion. 

I was curious about what he actually meant by that. was he concerned about the logistics of performing these checks and starting to play to a half empty arena with the other half waiting to get scanned? or was he against the checking of vaxxed status at all? 

Great question. I wasn’t able to tell. 

It’s a logistical nightmare that’s for sure. A handful of ushers checking ID and cards of 18,000 people who are impatient waiting to get into venue and half in the bag. When they’re working for $12-$15 an hour. No thanks on that one. Don’t blame them one for bit for just saying “just get the hell in there”. 

I fully understand how venues need to do this given the times we’re in. But it’s the same as enforcing mask mandates on the same amount of people. Essentially impossible. 

Maybe Jeff was just being practical. 

It's actually not a logistical nightmare at all. Winnipeg Blue Bombers (local CFL team) started doing this in the summer. People would form long lines for bag checks/ticket scans, as normal, which have always been pretty quick and painless, and they had extra staff (that's the key) starting earlier on in the line checking vax cards/ID's. it literally had zero effect on wait times to get in. 

now, if someone was found not to be fully vaxxed, I don't know how they handled it. did they alert security to not allow them in? did they ask they remove themselves from the line and go home? not sure. but it was a seamless procedure, and no significant infection spikes after games of 30,000 people sitting together, getting beers/hot dogs/shouting/whistling/etc. 

it can be done. 

100%. The structure of it for sure. 

What I meant was genuinely, actually checking cards and ID’s. The TD Garden in Boston doesn’t exactly verify to the enth degree… for one example anyway. 

Weston1283

Yeah TD Garden "checking" ID cards was about a half of a second glance at an iPhone picture, at least that was the case for the TOP show in October

Also, side note, no insider info but I have a strong, strong feeling that Baltimore will be canceled.  The basketball tournament in Feb is the last event scheduled there until further notice.  I know its not the most popular place to play, but you have to think they would have at least one event scheduled there after the BBall tournament if they planned to remain open, especially with the number of tours being announced lately.

My prediction:
May - USA shows starting West and ending East plus added night at MSG; Baltimore canceled
Fall - Canada plus second USA Leg

Figuring out if the South America shows in September are legit or not are the key to the rest of 2022