Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this.
As stated before, impossible!
As the great Kevin Garnett once stated, anything is possible!!!
Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds. Problem solved.
That would create a whole new world of problems. Are outdoor venues available in the cities. How do you handle rallocating tickets? What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less? who's tickets are you going to cancel? How do you redo seat location.'
Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option. Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada.
Alright, I’m finally going to ask. What the hell is a shed?
I'm a big fan of sheds! A shed is typically a simple, single-story roofed structure in a back garden or on an allotment that is used for storage...
Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds. Problem solved.
That would create a whole new world of problems. Are outdoor venues available in the cities. How do you handle rallocating tickets? What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less? who's tickets are you going to cancel? How do you redo seat location.'
Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option. Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada.
Alright, I’m finally going to ask. What the hell is a shed?
Technically aren't those outdoor amphitheaters more like very elaborate lean-tos than sheds?
Seattle 1992, Seattle 1992, Seattle 1993, Seattle 1995, Seattle 1996, Seattle 1998, Seattle 2001, Seattle 2002, Seattle 2005, Gorge 2006, Seattle 2009, Seattle 2013, Chicago 2016 x2, Seattle 2018 x2, San Diego 2022, Nashville 2022, Seattle 2022 - Eddie Vedder
Forget indoor arenas, just play sheds. Problem solved.
That would create a whole new world of problems. Are outdoor venues available in the cities. How do you handle rallocating tickets? What if the venue capacity is a few thousand less? who's tickets are you going to cancel? How do you redo seat location.'
Switching venues for a show that is already sold is a shittonne of work... lol.
Playing sheds has nothing thing to do with the 2020 shows. Playing outdoors seems to be the better option. Plenty of sheds across the us/Canada.
Alright, I’m finally going to ask. What the hell is a shed?
amphitheaters.
Ok, got ya. Bring on the sheds, closets and garages
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
They can when the tickets are already sold. There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days.
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
They can when the tickets are already sold. There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days.
I think someone already mentioned this, but with Jeff saying that Eddie’s tour is like a trial to see how this goes, we may not get anything concrete till the end of the February - and that’s if everything goes smoothly.
If the shows are even 60% sold out, they won’t need much lead time. I think overall there will be less travel to see these shows than a normal PJ tour.
They need to reschedule these already so those of us in cities that got passed over can get unrealistically optimistic and ultimately passed over again for the next tour.
Until this tour in the books, it's really bleak on when/if they will ever come back to mine, and i'm guessing, many many others' cities.
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows. 2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show. If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
2003 - June 15 Fargo 2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg 2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View 2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago 2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York 2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia 2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View 2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon 2012 - Sept 30 Missoula 2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle 2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee 2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York 2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows. 2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show. If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
I can respect this research and numbers but am hoping that they do not wait that long. I am very impatient as are thousands of other fans lol. I guess if there is a possibility that they announce now and postpone again rather than wait another month to be sure I will take the month wait.
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
They can when the tickets are already sold. There will be some refunds obviously but I wonder if arena shows are even selling out these days.
Tool had several sold out shows on their tour and a few upcoming are sold out with others getting close. Arenas are selling out for the good shows.
No rumors on prospective dates to me means this is pretty far away from announcement. I really hope it is before March though as I don't even live in the same part of the country.
Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this.
Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
1991- Hollywood Palladium, California with Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains -RIP Magazine Show Oct. 6th 1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California Nothing since then. I suck. 2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights 2022- Oakland Night 2
Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this.
Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
Are you kidding? Every post like yours goes down the same. I’ll come here to 15 new posts about Covid. There’s literally a thread in AMT to argue about your feelings on the pandemic.
I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows. And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows. And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
I agree... this scenario is complete different than a regular tour.....please, release the dates !
PJ - Irvine,CA (06,03,2003) SP, Brazil (12,02,2005), SP, Brazil (12,03,2005) ,SP, Brazil (11,03,2011), SP, Brazil (11,04,2011), SP, Brazil (03,31, 2013), SP, Brazil (11,14,2015), Ft Lauderdale, FL (04,08,2016), Miami, FL (04,09,2016), SP,Brazil(03,24,2018)Chicago, IL(08,18, 2018), Chicago, IL(08,20,2018), San Diego, CA (05,03,2022), Los Angeles, CA (05/06/2022), Los Angeles, CA (05/07/2022) , Oakland, CA(05/12/2022) - EV - SP, Brazil 2015/2018,
I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows. And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
agree 100%. Sorry if this has been already discussed, but, at this point, you have loyal fans who have clung to their tickets for nearly two years now, and the "regular rules" about date announcements really shouldn't apply. They've already announced their intentions to play in the spring, so I honestly don't understand the hesitation in announcing the dates sooner rather than later to allow people to plan around those dates. Unless there are things happening behind the scenes that prevent such an announcement, I really see the delay as a disservice to their loyal fans.
Okay 30 mins away from me giving up on today. Then there is tomorrow!
I will be pretty bummed out if we enter February and dont even get a hype-building instagram post to "Stay Tuned..."
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
2006, 2010 May tours were both announced first or second week of March, six or seven weeks before the first shows. 2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show. If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
If they are playing Wrigley and Fenway this summer those shows are usually announced in January.
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows. And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
agree 100%. Sorry if this has been already discussed, but, at this point, you have loyal fans who have clung to their tickets for nearly two years now, and the "regular rules" about date announcements really shouldn't apply. They've already announced their intentions to play in the spring, so I honestly don't understand the hesitation in announcing the dates sooner rather than later to allow people to plan around those dates. Unless there are things happening behind the scenes that prevent such an announcement, I really see the delay as a disservice to their loyal fans.
Their intention to play this spring (May) was announced in November pre omicron. They’re probably reassessing based on how the solo tour is going to go.
Slowing spread is relevant for hospitals, because higher case counts mean: - staff missing due to increased illness, increased stress, increased resignations
- longer waits due to room, equipment availability - temporary elimination of non emergent, but still important, procedures
If healthcare facilities are not functioning well, it could effect corresponding communities. Negative consequences include, but are not limited to, increased death counts.
All of this! IF people stop listening to anti-vax propaganda and just get vaccinated we wouldn't be having these problems of non-vaxxed people filling up hospitals while they wait to die.
😴😴😴 please go to AMT to “discuss” this.
Yes. Let's absolutely not discuss WHY these tours are getting cancelled...
Are you kidding? Every post like yours goes down the same. I’ll come here to 15 new posts about Covid. There’s literally a thread in AMT to argue about your feelings on the pandemic.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings talking about something that is affecting tour cancellations. Just responded to another post. Not arguing with anyone, except maybe you now... Have a swell day!
1991- Hollywood Palladium, California with Temple of the Dog, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains -RIP Magazine Show Oct. 6th 1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California Nothing since then. I suck. 2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights 2022- Oakland Night 2
I see people's points about past tours being announced only 6-7 weeks from shows. And I also see that people saying tickets having already been sold means they need less time (less ticket to sell).
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
I agree. If we have to wait until early March to get these May dates I'm going to be pretty annoyed. I'm not one to get annoyed at short tour dates announcements but I've been holding out for 2 years now and will need to schedule vacation , book a hotel and a flight for the show I am going to. I'll make it work whenever it gets announced but for a rescheduled date sooner is better than later.
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5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin
If the Tour starts May 1st or that week, we are just about at the 3 month out mark. I don't see how they can wait much longer than that to announce this thing...
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
Until this tour in the books, it's really bleak on when/if they will ever come back to mine, and i'm guessing, many many others' cities.
2020 was announced about eight weeks before the first show.
If coronavirus is under control and they proceed with shows May 2022, I’ll guess an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14.
2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
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No rumors on prospective dates to me means this is pretty far away from announcement. I really hope it is before March though as I don't even live in the same part of the country.
1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
Nothing since then. I suck.2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights
2022- Oakland Night 2
My opinion is different. I bought concert tickets 2 years ago....I would hope that they would grant me the respect of having as much lead time as possible in order to determine if I can still make it. I also understand the the uncertainty of everything messes with timelines. But still....Been waiting 2 years. I understand why, but please give me the time needed to be able to get to the concerts.
PJ - Irvine,CA (06,03,2003) SP, Brazil (12,02,2005), SP, Brazil (12,03,2005) ,SP, Brazil (11,03,2011), SP, Brazil (11,04,2011), SP, Brazil (03,31, 2013), SP, Brazil (11,14,2015), Ft Lauderdale, FL (04,08,2016), Miami, FL (04,09,2016), SP,Brazil(03,24,2018)Chicago, IL(08,18, 2018), Chicago, IL(08,20,2018), San Diego, CA (05,03,2022), Los Angeles, CA (05/06/2022), Los Angeles, CA (05/07/2022) , Oakland, CA(05/12/2022) - EV - SP, Brazil 2015/2018,
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
1992- Lollapalooza, Irvine, California
Nothing since then. I suck.2016- Fenway Park, Boston - Both glorious nights
2022- Oakland Night 2