2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,809
    nicknyr15 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    ComeToTX said:
    The difference is what has happened between 1/2020 and now. If they think they can announce a post Covid tour 6 weeks before they start playing shows and sell them all out or even come close I think they’re mistaken. 
    I’m going to go out on a limb and assume sell outs or ticket sales in general aren’t a big concern for them at the moment. 
    Yea when you have a merch  like PJ , you don’t even need to tour. 
    I was thinking more along the lines of them prioritizing people’s safety & health, but good call, they’re probably like “fuck it, we still have the merch sales.” 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    No, the band is highly cognizant of how they aren't able to support their live teams by not touring. there is much more to this than their own bank accounts. they legitimately care about those that are losing money and their livelihoods with cancelled tours. 
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,840
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    No, the band is highly cognizant of how they aren't able to support their live teams by not touring. there is much more to this than their own bank accounts. they legitimately care about those that are losing money and their livelihoods with cancelled tours. 
    Yeah I think that should be pretty clear.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    No, the band is highly cognizant of how they aren't able to support their live teams by not touring. there is much more to this than their own bank accounts. they legitimately care about those that are losing money and their livelihoods with cancelled tours. 
    I agree with this and think they are trying to make the best decisions for all parties involved… if they felt comfortable out touring right now, they would be doing it already. 

    If they lose some fans while doing what they think is best, I’m sure they’ll be able to live with themselves. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,353
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    No, the band is highly cognizant of how they aren't able to support their live teams by not touring. there is much more to this than their own bank accounts. they legitimately care about those that are losing money and their livelihoods with cancelled tours. 
    I agree with this and think they are trying to make the best decisions for all parties involved… if they felt comfortable out touring right now, they would be doing it already. 

    If they lose some fans while doing what they think is best, I’m sure they’ll be able to live with themselves. 
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  • mfc2006
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    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    No, the band is highly cognizant of how they aren't able to support their live teams by not touring. there is much more to this than their own bank accounts. they legitimately care about those that are losing money and their livelihoods with cancelled tours. 
    I agree with this and think they are trying to make the best decisions for all parties involved… if they felt comfortable out touring right now, they would be doing it already. 

    If they lose some fans while doing what they think is best, I’m sure they’ll be able to live with themselves. 
    Bingo. In the meantime, we all need to be patient.
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  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,726
    Dont you guys get tired of relentlessly typing the same post/reply over and over and over again. 
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  • biz999
    biz999 Posts: 174
    I wonder if they will have 10C ticket re-draws if they reschedule shows. It would be a smaller pool of tickets, as many most likely kept theirs. 
  • bbiggs
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    biz999 said:
    I wonder if they will have 10C ticket re-draws if they reschedule shows. It would be a smaller pool of tickets, as many most likely kept theirs. 
    With all of this speculation about 3/4 full arenas and such, it would be cool if they pushed all of the 10C seats in a bit further where it applies.  I highly doubt it would happen though because of the logistical nightmare.  That said, if a bunch of tickets are in fact dumped back into the pool, buying via public sale could yield better seats than some of the 10C seats being held onto.  Should be interesting and I'm sure no one will be upset with the outcome.

  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I wonder if they announce the dates, leave the refund window up a couple of weeks and then have the public sale happen again. I bet they are wanting to avoid a scenario that you mentioned bbiggs where one can upgrade and just get a refund on their old ticket. I see no chance of upgrades especially for 10C only tickets due to the fact those tickets are now blended in with the public sale tickets and bet it would be a huge pain in the ass. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    The Fan to Fan exchange will be a lot of fun whenever this thing happens 
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  • LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan
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    If anyone is concerned about travel vouchers, try selling them and recoup as much as possible. Not ideal but at least you won’t lose everything. I’d also try and call the airline to see if they can do anything at all. With that said, I don’t see them extending especially since all forms of travel are going to be open again regardless of reason to majority of places.
  • Franklin Delano Bluth
    Franklin Delano Bluth Posts: 541
    Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years. 
    They did provide info. They said early 2022. 
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Definitely seems like there’s been a lot of refunds recently and that we’ve passed the point of how long the average person is willing to hang on to tickets for 
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  • drakeheuer14
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    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years. 
    Oh no :confounded: It’s probably closer than we think! It just makes it feel longer checking here daily
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  • Franklin Delano Bluth
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    PJNB said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years. 
    They did provide info. They said early 2022. 
    I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years. 

    Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers? 

    I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO. 

    Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get. 
  • HailHailVitalogy
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    RS151862 said:
    Dont you guys get tired of relentlessly typing the same post/reply over and over and over again. 
    +100000
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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    PJNB said:
    Franklin Delano Bluth said:
    Just refunded my nash, St. Louis and Baltimore tickets. It bums me out that they can’t provide any information especially after holding everyone’s money for the last 2 years. 
    They did provide info. They said early 2022. 
    I don’t think that an email from 4 months ago is really an update. They either know when they are and aren’t announcing it for some reason, or they don’t have any plans to reschedule. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for customers to expect some more timely information given they’ve held our money for almost 2 years. 

    Do you really think an email or update posted to the site is that difficult for your paying customers? 

    I chose to take my refund as I have other plans made for next March and April and can’t wait any longer to request PTO. 

    Hopefully I can make them once they finally announce the rescheduled shows. Tickets should be easy to get. 
    I’m sorry this happened to you, but I guess the question is: if they announced spring 2022 tour dates now, you kept your tickets, requested PTO and made plans, then over the winter the COVID situation took a turn for the worse and they had to postpone again, would you be better or worse off than you are now?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,516
    LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:
    If anyone is concerned about travel vouchers, try selling them and recoup as much as possible. Not ideal but at least you won’t lose everything. I’d also try and call the airline to see if they can do anything at all. With that said, I don’t see them extending especially since all forms of travel are going to be open again regardless of reason to majority of places.
    this post makes me think...... ^^^ this guy usually has inside info on upcoming announcements. 
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