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    HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 4,569
    I’d say the last show will be NYC or Toronto so they can fly to Europe from the east coast
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,389
    edited November 2021
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’d say the last show will be NYC or Toronto so they can fly to Europe from the east coast
    That's my thought, and would make Toronto work much better for me
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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,209
    Spartanacus said:
    Finally, thanks for checking in PJ!  Let the date speculation and rough planning begin!

    So looking at the 2020 vs. 2022 calendar, the first NA show was scheduled for Wednesday, March 18th, 2020 and the last (17th) was scheduled 32 days later on Sunday, April 19th, 2020.

    If they start in early May and conclude with enough time to get packed up and in Europe for the June 14th show, and try to replicate the 2020 timeframe, including day of the week the shows were on, and same days off between shows, then below would be the schedule (1st show - Wednesday, May 4th...32 days later...last (17th) show - Sunday, June 5th):

    *** NOT CONFIRMED...JUST MY BEST GUESS ***

    (if anyone has info on the venues already being booked for something else these days, please comment)

    01) Toronto - 5/4
    02) Ottawa - 5/6
    03) Quebec City - 5/8
    04) Hamilton - 5/10
    05) NYC - 5/12
    06) Baltimore - 5/14
    07) NYC - 5/16
    08) Nashville - 5/19
    09) St. Louis - 5/21
    10) OKC - 5/23
    11) Denver - 5/26
    12) PHX - 5/28
    13) SD - 5/30
    14) LA - 6/1
    15) LA - 6/2
    16) Oakland - 6/4
    17) Oakland - 6/5
    That is quite the heavy schedule for this band as of recent.
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    GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,556
    too funny...was just saying the same.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,958
    Skipping Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago and Seattle won't make any more sense in 2022 than it did in 2020. 
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    NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,389
    OceansJenny said:
    Spartanacus said:
    Finally, thanks for checking in PJ!  Let the date speculation and rough planning begin!

    So looking at the 2020 vs. 2022 calendar, the first NA show was scheduled for Wednesday, March 18th, 2020 and the last (17th) was scheduled 32 days later on Sunday, April 19th, 2020.

    If they start in early May and conclude with enough time to get packed up and in Europe for the June 14th show, and try to replicate the 2020 timeframe, including day of the week the shows were on, and same days off between shows, then below would be the schedule (1st show - Wednesday, May 4th...32 days later...last (17th) show - Sunday, June 5th):

    *** NOT CONFIRMED...JUST MY BEST GUESS ***

    (if anyone has info on the venues already being booked for something else these days, please comment)

    01) Toronto - 5/4
    02) Ottawa - 5/6
    03) Quebec City - 5/8
    04) Hamilton - 5/10
    05) NYC - 5/12
    06) Baltimore - 5/14
    07) NYC - 5/16
    08) Nashville - 5/19
    09) St. Louis - 5/21
    10) OKC - 5/23
    11) Denver - 5/26
    12) PHX - 5/28
    13) SD - 5/30
    14) LA - 6/1
    15) LA - 6/2
    16) Oakland - 6/4
    17) Oakland - 6/5
    That is quite the heavy schedule for this band as of recent.
    Pretty similar to the postponed tour schedule
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    MelzombieMelzombie Charleston, SC Posts: 200
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’d say the last show will be NYC or Toronto so they can fly to Europe from the east coast

    wouldn't they go home before Europe? How long do they usually get in between US and Euro tour??
    like a week or two? I'm assuming
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,219
    JimmyV said:
    Skipping Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago and Seattle won't make any more sense in 2022 than it did in 2020. 
    they won't be skipping Philly.  I would think ballpark show possibly but I suspect will be dates in 2022 for sure.
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    JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,023
    I just hope that either Nash or StL is on a Saturday.  Fingers crossed!
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    MelzombieMelzombie Charleston, SC Posts: 200
    edited November 2021
    anyone think they will do a 2nd NA leg? I mean, they have to, right? Fall? 

    Also, wouldn't the band take at least a week or two in between before heading to Europe? 
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,027
    given2fly23 said:
    mrk2 said:
    Who says that the rescheduled dates will all happen before Europe? They only said they will start in May
    Well, May usually comes before June, when the Europe dates are already scheduled for ;)

    But no one says that they will play all of the reschdeduled US dates before Europe. Maybe some of them in late July/August. This would allow also additional dates.
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    HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 4,569
    By the way, so 6 weeks til announcement!
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    mrk2mrk2 Finland Posts: 2,027
    edited November 2021
    mrk2 said:
    given2fly23 said:
    mrk2 said:
    Who says that the rescheduled dates will all happen before Europe? They only said they will start in May
    Well, May usually comes before June, when the Europe dates are already scheduled for ;)

    But no one says that they will play all of the reschdeduled US dates before Europe. Maybe some of them in late July/August. This would allow also additional dates.
    Then again I realized that the original 2020 tour was almost exactly a month from start to finish. I remembered the shows were over 6 weeks or so.
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    DEGBTIDEGBTI san diego Posts: 931
    i mentioned the other day, maybe a full year tour as ed mentioned a "long Gigaton tour was planned". I could see a late summer stadium tour and ending it at Ohana late September. That's my guess.
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    DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 529
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    D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,810
    kaw753 said:
    I was going to start a totally unfounded baseless rumor that maybe the delay was because Josh Klinghoffer was learning someone's guitar parts. I added it here hoping to make it on Alternative Nation music.
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    Ms0331Ms0331 United States Posts: 81
    Maybe they will add Boston Calling in May? One open headliner slot still available.
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    JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,023
    I think we'll get a Fall leg as well with different cities. 
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    KGSmith34KGSmith34 Posts: 19
    Bridgestone Arena in Nashville is booked the 13th and 17th. Plus there’s the possibility of playoff hockey.
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,892
    JojoRice said:
    I think we'll get a Fall leg as well with different cities. 
    Or late summer ballparks, as mentioned above.

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    JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,023
    Also, what about any EV solo/Earthlings shows?  Any chance of those happening before May?
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    The_Giant_MidgetThe_Giant_Midget Los Angeles Posts: 540
    looks like for the Forum Saturday May 21 and Saturday June 4 are booked up so those are out for LA dates
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    RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 4,321
    Wondering if mrk2 is right that “starting in May” doesn’t have to mean all 16 shows (+ Apollo) before Europe.  It could mean that, but it doesn’t have to mean that.  Why is everything such a mystery around here! 
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,528
    Enterprise Center in STL is showing events for May 14th and 20th. Blues playoff dates will be a factor as well. 
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    kaw753kaw753 Posts: 766
    JojoRice said:
    I think we'll get a Fall leg as well with different cities. 
    I would bet on you being correct. I don't want to get into math and stuff, but it would be close to impossible for them to reschedule this tour using the same arenas without expanding the amount of time. There are just too many variables to solve for. The original plan was something like: LA, Oakland, Toronto, NYC and then fill in the cities in between with some arenas that are available (Ottawa, Baltimore, etc.). They now have a list of arenas they have to hit in a route that makes sense taking into account limited open dates. Logistically, they reschedule the dates and fill in some holes with some added shows to make it make sense $$$ and routing wise.
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    ddeschlerddeschler Posts: 634
    Any chance they're moving these to May to switch around some venues and play some/all of these outdoors?
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385
    ddeschler said:
    Any chance they're moving these to May to switch around some venues and play some/all of these outdoors?
    I think there's a good chance of that
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,958
    RatherStarved said:
    Wondering if mrk2 is right that “starting in May” doesn’t have to mean all 16 shows (+ Apollo) before Europe.  It could mean that, but it doesn’t have to mean that.  Why is everything such a mystery around here! 
    I had the same thought. 
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    CO278952CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,252
    Was looking pretty bleak in here. Glad to see the update and positive waves rippling through the thread. 
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    CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 2,925
    Doing all 16 shows in May/early June still gives them nearly two weeks before the Euro leg.  They had planned on 16 shows in 33 days for 2020. Nothing to say they can't do it again. 

    Will the NBA/NHL attempt to work around concerts that are scheduled prior to the playoff schedule being announced? Or is it vice versa? I remember them getting bumped in Toronto one year but it doesn't seem to be a common occurrence.   
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