A passing thought from Dave Abbruzzese

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

My impression was that was always about personality and zero about style. But I'm not a member of PJ, so I suppose my impression means very little. lol

Well we know that MC can lead a band, he certainly does in plenty of SG songs.  And everyone has commented/noticed how different his style is in PJ vs SG.  I had always assumed that was deliberate and how the band wanted it to be.  

I mean about Dave being fired. Are you saying they fired Dave A because they had Matt lined up because they preferred his style?

No... not A+B.  I'm saying there could be more than just the personality issue behind the move.  It may have been a dissatisfaction with the style considering it changed so dramatically after he left (live shows). 

There seems to be a clear reason why his drumming career didn't continue to flourish after the band.  Since his departure, I'm sure there are hundreds of bands that could have used a new drummer, and one who used to be in the biggest band in the world.  Pretty sure it has to do with Dave...and not his skillset.  

HughFreakingDillon said:

mca47 said:

There seems to be a clear reason why his drumming career didn't continue to flourish after the band.  Since his departure, I'm sure there are hundreds of bands that could have used a new drummer, and one who used to be in the biggest band in the world.  Pretty sure it has to do with Dave...and not his skillset.  

This is something I've always found so confusing. it's pretty rare for a musician to get fired or quit a massive band and not get picked up somewhere else. but don't you think, if it is what you are suggesting, it would be kind of a well known opinion, and not just conjecture on our part?

People with class don't talk about the negatives of another musician like that, out in the open.  Now, plenty of people don't have class, so sure, maybe more would be in the public ear about it, but mostly I'd guess it's the kind of thing where you just choose not to engage and keep it moving. That's my guess for why, if that's also part of why he wasn't in any other successful bands, why we might not hear about it if it was his personality or his playing or both.

Definitely seems that's why PJ rarely comments on it and never talks about negatives in ages...  At the time of his departure though, of course questions are going to be asked and obviously something was wrong, or else why make the change.  But what the details were, and how it's seen now, and why he didn't get picked up by other successful bands.... who knows, but musicians with class won't comment on it publicly.

Dave A is a sweet guy and I don't get why any PJ fan has anything negative to say about him.  Dave was so nice to fans so how about lets just drop this.  I would love to see him sit in one day.  If you don"t have something nice to say about him just keep it to yourself 
its not like anything posted here is going to make a difference in the matter anyway.

If you don't agree with me, how about this - don't post.


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WW187806 said:

1st. Cant believe this thread made it to 5 pages. 2nd and this constantly comes up with the regs on fan board- always reminiscing, taking for granted all we have. We are LUCKY to have Matt. 

I'd like to see Dave Krusen play Ten front to back with the lads too. But most likely won't happen. Am OK with it.

Felt to me Soundgarden showcased Matt's chops and PJ his groove. But he is just so tight that maybe his perfect time made those listening feel that the swing other drummers had wasn't there. I remember Tool covering a Ramones song live and thinking wow Danny Carey is too good for this, hence it not sounding as great to me cause it didn't have that balls to the wall punk feel. Nowhere near that extreme in this case but no matter the style Matt seems to be the most accompl musician of all the drummers. 

Though a pleasant irony in Dave A's drumming-despite being more to the front of the beat than Dave K and Jack, he didn't play as fast which I love for certain songs.

JT167846 said:

I'd like to see Dave Krusen play Ten front to back with the lads too. But most likely won't happen. Am OK with it.

Felt to me Soundgarden showcased Matt's chops and PJ his groove. But he is just so tight that maybe his perfect time made those listening feel that the swing other drummers had wasn't there. I remember Tool covering a Ramones song live and thinking wow Danny Carey is too good for this, hence it not sounding as great to me cause it didn't have that balls to the wall punk feel. Nowhere near that extreme in this case but no matter the style Matt seems to be the most accompl musician of all the drummers. 

Though a pleasant irony in Dave A's drumming-despite being more to the front of the beat than Dave K and Jack, he didn't play as fast which I love for certain songs.

Taking nothin away from MC but he simply isn’t a groove drummer in the same way that that Dave A isn’t a well honed lock step machine on the kit. There’s a reason both were hired when they were, from a musical and personal standpoint.