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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    690,000 dead and Since Dec. 14, more than 390,664,000 doses of a coronavirus vaccine have been administered in the U.S.

    More than 183,888,000 people have completed vaccination, or about 55.39% of the population. Read more in our vaccination tracker.

    What is the % of fully vaccinated reporting side effects and how long-lasting or permanently damaging are they?

    they don't know yet. it is being studied. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    GlowGirl said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    How old is your wife? That starts to happen at a certain age anyway - mid to late 40s or so.

    Like I said, I can not pin point this as to being the cause but is it just a coincidence that it aligned with her vaccine shot? She is 37 which is getting close to that thresh hold. I'll give you that but she isn't the only one that has seen this happen. She got the first shot in early April which is 6 months ago but this has been an issue ever since taking the vaccine.

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    JB16057 said:

    What is the % of fully vaccinated reporting side effects and how long-lasting or permanently damaging are they?

    As of right now, no one can answer that question with 100% certainty.

    As for the news story from BU, the study won't be finished until Spring of 2022. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there is no evidence but can we fully trust them? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/28/cdc-under-attack/

    If Trump can "ruin" the CDC's credibility then they really weren't that credible to begin with, were they? My point being is that politics are involved and it doesn't matter what side you are on, politics and politicians are corrupt. Some are honest and some tell the truth but there are many that do not.

    More than two-thirds of Congress cashed a pharma campaign check in 2020, new STAT analysis shows


    No one can tell me that these members of Congress hold stock in pharma to help the health of the people. They hold stock for the money involved. Money and politicians can make anything corrupt.

    I've given my experience on what is going on with my wife and I have every right to be concerned about the health of my 3 daughters. No one knows the long term effects of this vaccine. I hear that MRNA vaccines are tried and true but why is this vaccine causing this?

    "There is one potential side effect of Covid-19 vaccines that has been reported consistently, and just as consistently ignored: changes to the menstrual cycles."

    I'm only a male so this coming from me doesn't mean as much but a women wrote this story and she feels like this has been reported consistently and ignored consistently.

    As a father of daughters, this does concern me. Why would the CDC ignore this issue that has been consistently reported?
    the concern is valid if it does something to the reproductive system. female menstrual cycles can be affected by a lot less than this, so at this point, I don't share the same level of concern. but, given the alternative of small possibility of my two girls dying or suffering long term from COVID, I think the choice is clear. 
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  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    Yes that is my point I think people are being very self righteous when it comes to pointing out the very valid concerns of others around this topic.  People especially women aren't wrong to be concerned about this.
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    my body my choice when it comes to a pandemic is not the same as my body my choice that effects literally zero people except the one making the choice. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,890
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    Yes that is my point I think people are being very self righteous when it comes to pointing out the very valid concerns of others around this topic.  People especially women aren't wrong to be concerned about this.

    Its fair to be concerned. But does that give us the right to spread respiratory droplets? Its fair to not want the vaccine, but those who make that choice should be willing to make sacrifices to offset the risk they bring into the public domain.

    Its fair that people are making a risk assessment and within certain demographics people are categorizing covid risk as low. But this virus will spread until it finds a high risk target. Covid changed the modern world. Plenty of us have shown we care little about the risk we give to others.

    Let's say the technology existed to trace an infection to its source, and our govt had the ability to charge spreaders who engaged in risky behavior, such as interacting in public while unvaccinated, for healthcare costs of all downstream infections.  Would those opposing the vaccines be as cavalier under that scenario?
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    Yes that is my point I think people are being very self righteous when it comes to pointing out the very valid concerns of others around this topic.  People especially women aren't wrong to be concerned about this.

    Its fair to be concerned. But does that give us the right to spread respiratory droplets? Its fair to not want the vaccine, but those who make that choice should be willing to make sacrifices to offset the risk they bring into the public domain.

    Its fair that people are making a risk assessment and within certain demographics people are categorizing covid risk as low. But this virus will spread until it finds a high risk target. Covid changed the modern world. Plenty of us have shown we care little about the risk we give to others.

    Let's say the technology existed to trace an infection to its source, and our govt had the ability to charge spreaders who engaged in risky behavior, such as interacting in public while unvaccinated, for healthcare costs of all downstream infections.  Would those opposing the vaccines be as cavalier under that scenario?
    If they get off as lightly as tobacco and oil companies for the health damages they have done I don't see why not.  Of course that kind of tracing would be a very special kind of invasion of privacy so it is something we hopefully will never have to worry about.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    Yes that is my point I think people are being very self righteous when it comes to pointing out the very valid concerns of others around this topic.  People especially women aren't wrong to be concerned about this.

    Its fair to be concerned. But does that give us the right to spread respiratory droplets? Its fair to not want the vaccine, but those who make that choice should be willing to make sacrifices to offset the risk they bring into the public domain.

    Its fair that people are making a risk assessment and within certain demographics people are categorizing covid risk as low. But this virus will spread until it finds a high risk target. Covid changed the modern world. Plenty of us have shown we care little about the risk we give to others.

    Let's say the technology existed to trace an infection to its source, and our govt had the ability to charge spreaders who engaged in risky behavior, such as interacting in public while unvaccinated, for healthcare costs of all downstream infections.  Would those opposing the vaccines be as cavalier under that scenario?
    If they get off as lightly as tobacco and oil companies for the health damages they have done I don't see why not.  Of course that kind of tracing would be a very special kind of invasion of privacy so it is something we hopefully will never have to worry about.
    it's a hypothetical to prove social responsibility and moral accountability. yes, or no. 

    same as asking someone if they'd steal a million dollars if they knew they could get away with it. coming back with "well (this guy did it) and got off, so yeah" is irrelevant to the question posed. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,088
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    Yes that is my point I think people are being very self righteous when it comes to pointing out the very valid concerns of others around this topic.  People especially women aren't wrong to be concerned about this.

    Its fair to be concerned. But does that give us the right to spread respiratory droplets? Its fair to not want the vaccine, but those who make that choice should be willing to make sacrifices to offset the risk they bring into the public domain.

    Its fair that people are making a risk assessment and within certain demographics people are categorizing covid risk as low. But this virus will spread until it finds a high risk target. Covid changed the modern world. Plenty of us have shown we care little about the risk we give to others.

    Let's say the technology existed to trace an infection to its source, and our govt had the ability to charge spreaders who engaged in risky behavior, such as interacting in public while unvaccinated, for healthcare costs of all downstream infections.  Would those opposing the vaccines be as cavalier under that scenario?
    If they get off as lightly as tobacco and oil companies for the health damages they have done I don't see why not.  Of course that kind of tracing would be a very special kind of invasion of privacy so it is something we hopefully will never have to worry about.
    it's a hypothetical to prove social responsibility and moral accountability. yes, or no. 

    same as asking someone if they'd steal a million dollars if they knew they could get away with it. coming back with "well (this guy did it) and got off, so yeah" is irrelevant to the question posed. 
    Yes
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    JB16057 said:
    static111 said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
    Bianchi says her team at NIH expedited its grant funding process for this research. “There was an urgency to it, the fact that this was getting so much attention. We were worried this was contributing to vaccine hesitancy in reproductive-age women,” from the article

    So what is of greater concern vaccine hesitancy or women's reproductive health?
    My body, my choice, right?

    I personally know 3 men that have died of COVID. I don't personally know any women that have died of COVID. I know plenty that have gotten it and survived.

    Not that my personal experience means anything but I can see how this could concern women.

    For anyone with a legitimate concern, who's willing to acknowledge the risk they bring to society, and regularly wears PPE in public indoor spaces, it's their right to stay unvaccinated, though they do so to the detriment of society (i.e. prolonging mask mandates in all likelihood). For any business, it's also their right to refuse entry to an unvaccinated individual because it unnecessarily endangers their clients and employees.

    Although a person has the right to not get vaccinated, if when the air you exhale has a strong likelihood to make me sick by my being in your presence, then all of a sudden what happens to "my body" becomes "your choice", which is at odds with what we're after. Get vaccinated, or get used to masks and considering other humans.
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  • I feel bad for the 593. Not.

    United’s deadline for meeting the requirement was Monday, and the carrier said Tuesday it has begun the process of terminating 593 employees who declined to be vaccinated and did not apply for a health or religious exemption. The company said less than 3 percent of its roughly 67,000 workforce applied for exemptions, while 1 percent didn’t comply.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,098
    I feel bad for the 593. Not.

    United’s deadline for meeting the requirement was Monday, and the carrier said Tuesday it has begun the process of terminating 593 employees who declined to be vaccinated and did not apply for a health or religious exemption. The company said less than 3 percent of its roughly 67,000 workforce applied for exemptions, while 1 percent didn’t comply.
    now they can go work at spirit airlines.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    the president of my company sent out an email today specifying the terms of our vaxx only policy: fully vaxxed by november 26th, if not, you get put on 3 month unpaid leave. if you still aren't fully vaxxed after that, buh bye. 
     
    we are a crown corporation with about 200 employees. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    the president of my company sent out an email today specifying the terms of our vaxx only policy: fully vaxxed by november 26th, if not, you get put on 3 month unpaid leave. if you still aren't fully vaxxed after that, buh bye. 
     
    we are a crown corporation with about 200 employees. 

    define crown corporations please?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mickeyrat said:
    the president of my company sent out an email today specifying the terms of our vaxx only policy: fully vaxxed by november 26th, if not, you get put on 3 month unpaid leave. if you still aren't fully vaxxed after that, buh bye. 
     
    we are a crown corporation with about 200 employees. 

    define crown corporations please?
    federal but not quite federal. 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_corporations_of_Canada
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,226
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    https://youtu.be/gteFcUlxjyY

    Shut up and dribble 

    *** unfortunately I feel the need to come back and say I’m fully vaccinated. Instead of only focusing on lunatics who have insane conspiracy theories about the vaccination, there’s also plenty of people who sound like this guy that get brushed to the side. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    edited September 2021
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://youtu.be/gteFcUlxjyY

    Shut up and dribble 

    *** unfortunately I feel the need to come back and say I’m fully vaccinated. Instead of only focusing on lunatics who have insane conspiracy theories about the vaccination, there’s also plenty of people who sound like this guy that get brushed to the side. 
    I don't see what's so complicated about this. 

    Get vaccinated, follow the public health mandates if you're unvaccinated, or stay isolated. Take one of the three options.

    Sometimes I wish we lived in a benevolent dictatorship. 

    Edit: Just to add, this guy was calm, collected, and reasonable. If these were the typical objections and the typical tone, I don't think "anti-vaxxers" would have the reputation they do today. The loudest objections have been politically driven.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,430
    benjs said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    https://youtu.be/gteFcUlxjyY

    Shut up and dribble 

    *** unfortunately I feel the need to come back and say I’m fully vaccinated. Instead of only focusing on lunatics who have insane conspiracy theories about the vaccination, there’s also plenty of people who sound like this guy that get brushed to the side. 
    I don't see what's so complicated about this. 

    Get vaccinated, follow the public health mandates if you're unvaccinated, or stay isolated. Take one of the three options.

    Sometimes I wish we lived in a benevolent dictatorship. 

    Edit: Just to add, this guy was calm, collected, and reasonable. If these were the typical objections and the typical tone, I don't think "anti-vaxxers" would have the reputation they do today. The loudest objections have been politically driven.
    HIS biggest thing here for him personally is the fact he has natural immunity. at least one study shows better immunity from those who had covid compared to vax alone. remains to be sen just how long natural immunity is effective.

    so the point for some is, where is the accommodations for folks living post covid infection?

    and I do agree with his other points on choice. however your choice to not vax shouldn't potentially infect me. so dont vax and utilize all recommemed precautions.

    but so many are seeming to throw a tantrum and do as they wish without regard to anyone else.

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