Unvaccinated?

joseph33
joseph33 Washington DC Posts: 1,341
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Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    This should go well! ;)

    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/289628/vaccine-status#latest
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    Don’t expect “discussion” here. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    This is untrue. I know plenty of liberals who aren’t vaccinated. People of color, trans gender etc…. That’s nonsense honestly. Those are just the only unvaccinated demographic this site focuses on. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.
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  • SVRDhand13
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    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.
    If just a little shaming pushes anti-vaxxers towards trump... they were headed there eventually anyways.  
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    This is untrue. I know plenty of liberals who aren’t vaccinated. People of color, trans gender etc…. That’s nonsense honestly. Those are just the only unvaccinated demographic this site focuses on. 

    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

    Its not my experience that liberals are just as apt to be anti-vax as conservative, but you may both be right-  I don't have the data at hand.  But I do know this- far more people die of COVID who are not vaccinated and, from what I've seen and heard, the most loudly vocal anti-vax people are MTG, Trump and the like fans.  That's my experience.  I'm open to be proven wrong.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.
    they can go where they want. i do not give a shit at this point. they can all take their chances as far as i am concerned.

    i have stated several times that the unvaccinated are killing my business. so if they want to gamble with their lives i will shed no tears. i am out of empathy for the unvaccinated at this point.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    This is untrue. I know plenty of liberals who aren’t vaccinated. People of color, trans gender etc…. That’s nonsense honestly. Those are just the only unvaccinated demographic this site focuses on. 
    well. then they are not liberals.

    small d democrats maybe, but certainly not liberals.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    I said this in another thread, but we know a woman who is religious and right wing and knowing she was unvaccinated and had tested positive for COVID, rode with her mother in a closed automobile and gave her elderly mother, who is also anti-vax, COVID. 
    Yeah, so easy to say, "I'm am for freedom of choice".  But here's the thing:  those two people have been around other people we know (not my wife and I!) and who knows how many of them will get COVID.  Yeah, freedom of choice.  Free to fuck over other people's lives.
    Like gimme said, I have lost empathy for these people.  I'm over it with these idiots.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    brianlux said:
    I said this in another thread, but we know a woman who is religious and right wing and knowing she was unvaccinated and had tested positive for COVID, rode with her mother in a closed automobile and gave her elderly mother, who is also anti-vax, COVID. 
    Yeah, so easy to say, "I'm am for freedom of choice".  But here's the thing:  those two people have been around other people we know (not my wife and I!) and who knows how many of them will get COVID.  Yeah, freedom of choice.  Free to fuck over other people's lives.
    Like gimme said, I have lost empathy for these people.  I'm over it with these idiots.
    i hope you and your wife are staying safe Brian.

    those people are dangerous. those are the ones that believe "god will take care of me". yeah, god will let you die of a preventable virus and then you will be dead. dead and gone. a horribly painful suffocating death. you will be dead, and forgotten by everyone you knew in 40 years because they will be dead too.

    i have told people that if they are unvaccinated i do not want to be around them and i do not want to even know them anymore.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    This is untrue. I know plenty of liberals who aren’t vaccinated. People of color, trans gender etc…. That’s nonsense honestly. Those are just the only unvaccinated demographic this site focuses on. 
    well. then they are not liberals.

    small d democrats maybe, but certainly not liberals.
    Yea. Just like if you don’t vote for Biden , then “you ain’t black”. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2021
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were liberal women. 

    https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnists/corbella-the-vaccine-hesitant-are-typically-40-something-women-in-ontario-who-tend-to-vote-liberal
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    this survey is from 2015: 60 percent of anti vaxxers in the US identify as liberal. 

    https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is/
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
    liberal- 
    1. 1.
      a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

      if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
    liberal- 
    1. 1.
      a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

      if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.
    So what do you call a conservative who is vaccinated? 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    nicknyr15 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
    liberal- 
    1. 1.
      a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

      if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.
    So what do you call a conservative who is vaccinated? 
    intelligent.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,222
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
    liberal- 
    1. 1.
      a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

      if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.
    So what do you call a conservative who is vaccinated? 
    intelligent.
    Ha. Got me there. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,097
    nicknyr15 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 
    Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
    if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 
    liberal- 
    1. 1.
      a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.

      if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.
    So what do you call a conservative who is vaccinated? 
    also respectable.

    it takes courage to be a conservative and do something for someone else when you stand to gain nothing from it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."

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