2022 North American rumour thread take 2
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 There was less than 3 months notice for the 2020 NA tour. It was announced just over 2 months before it was to start.wbutler29 said:on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.
 If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months. Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ yearsPJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 True, but I would think they would try to get a little more lead time due to the amount of people who will be looking to either get refunds or put their tickets on the F2F, assuming they even have that going for the rescheduled shows.RatherStarved said:
 There was less than 3 months notice for the 2020 NA tour. It was announced just over 2 months before it was to start.wbutler29 said:on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.
 If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months. Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years0
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 I agree… it’s going to be tough. But we’re kind of operating in unusual times so maybe they can scramble and pull it off with 3 months notice. I’m sure the dates are on hold with venues… just a matter of when they pull the trigger for sure. 🤞🏻wbutler29 said:on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.
 If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months. Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR." To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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 All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.100 Pacer said:
 Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 0 0
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 How does this work for people out of province?jefft said:
 All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.100 Pacer said:
 Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 0 0
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            It's looking like its going to be an app. Based qr code.0
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            I wish they would play a 3 night stand at the Gorge. For all the good reasons why seeing them there would be awesome. It's also outside.
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            PJNB said:
 How does this work for people out of province?jefft said:
 All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.100 Pacer said:
 Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement  although this is supposed to end mid-Jan in BC.... although this is supposed to end mid-Jan in BC....
 They could pull a DMB and just cancel Canada (Bastard)!
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            What does that mean?This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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            ComeToTX said:What does that mean?
 Carter n Stephan won’t b playing this weekend due to covid-19. Dave came out before opening band and announced it.
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            The Killers just canceled their shows in Raleigh and Richmond this month.
 Super bummed, was looking forward to seeing them for the first time.
 Im blaming this one on poor ticket sales. There was probably 50% of the venue still for sale on TM.
 Looks like theyre canceling a bunch of shows, just having the venue send out emails. Seems pretty weak to not even tell the fans yourselves and remain silent. Maybe I dont need to see the Killers after all...Post edited by Weston1283 on2010: Cleveland
 2012: Atlanta
 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
 2015: New York City
 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
 2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
 2023: St. Paul II
 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore0
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            Some optimism: looks like cases, tests, and hospitalizations have plateaued the past 14-17 days in the US. 65% of the population has had at least 1 dose (current full vaxxed is 57%, have to assume the other 8% get their second dose). If we don’t get an announcement of rescheduled shows by December, something else must be going on. I think the boys are gonna get through these 4.5 shows coming up and all talk to each other about how they felt…then it should be game on!
 2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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            We also just had 60-100k capacity college football stadiums filled for the first time in 18 months this weekend.2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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 Been following that trend as well. That’s without kids under 12 being eligible too. That’s millions of people that, once eligible, will get vax’d and bump those numbers up. At some point, the virus loses places to go.HailHailVitalogy said:Some optimism: looks like cases, tests, and hospitalizations have plateaued the past 14-17 days in the US. 65% of the population has had at least 1 dose (current full vaxxed is 57%, have to assume the other 8% get their second dose). If we don’t get an announcement of rescheduled shows by December, something else must be going on. I think the boys are gonna get through these 4.5 shows coming up and all talk to each other about how they felt…then it should be game on!Boston '06
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            Spring tour confirmed.0
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 Any idea when we will have an announcement?LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:Spring tour confirmed.1996.....Toronto
 2005.....Hamilton
 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
 2013.....London, Buffalo
 2014.....Detroit
 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
 2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
 2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????0
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 Awesome!LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:Spring tour confirmed.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied upD-Rod said:
 Any idea when we will have an announcement?LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:Spring tour confirmed.0
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