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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    Go ahead and bail again.  You get owned daily here because your arguments lack thought and consistency.

    This thread is about Biden, not my "lack of thought and consistency". You are trying to start something that will end poorly for the both of us and I am walking away.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,468
    JB16057 said:

    This thread is about Biden, not my "lack of thought and consistency". You are trying to start something that will end poorly for the both of us and I am walking away.
    We were discussing vaccines and you seem to think that forcing immigrants to vax is okay but not citizens.  So I’m trying to understand how anyone could hold such a morally inconsistent position.  Trying to understand why you think that immigrants should have fewer human rights than a citizen.  This is completely on topic.  If I misstated your position or if I stuttered, feel free to clarify.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,723
    JB16057 said:


    " Only those showing symptoms of Covid are tested. The rest are released, according to CBP with a notice to appear in an immigration court."

    "More than 1,000 immigrants were infected with COVID-19 as of Aug. 1, among more than 22,500 confirmed cases since the pandemic began, the Post reported."



    Okay, I took a chance and clicked on a link to the borderreport.com and I have to say, considering they reported “sick people in a burger joint,” and listed or referenced unknown government officials, not by their/there/they’re name but by obscure “a congressman” or “sheriff,” rather than by place or proper name, I suggest that you get better sources of information. I’m sorry, but your source lacks credibility.

    Tell me, who funds the borderreport.com? Who’s the editor, staff reporters, etc.?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,723
    mrussel1 said:
    We were discussing vaccines and you seem to think that forcing immigrants to vax is okay but not citizens.  So I’m trying to understand how anyone could hold such a morally inconsistent position.  Trying to understand why you think that immigrants should have fewer human rights than a citizen.  This is completely on topic.  If I misstated your position or if I stuttered, feel free to clarify.
    What about religious reasons? Shouldn’t migrants be allowed to refuse to be vaccinated or wear masks for religious reasons like that snake charming preacher screams? No freedumb of religion? Sounds like little rocket man’s NK. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,855
    JB16057 said:
    That's awesome that hundreds of migrants have been vaccinated but what about the other thousands that are currently spreading COVID across America?

    why do you care about immigrants bringing in covid when it's the people who LIVE ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER that are refusing to get the fucking vaccine or even mask up in most instances?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,315
    why do you care about immigrants bringing in covid when it's the people who LIVE ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER that are refusing to get the fucking vaccine or even mask up in most instances?
    Either you don’t have an understanding of the demographics or you are anti Hispanic. I’m leaning one way but you never know. Looks like the border counties are holding their own.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,177
    JB16057 said:
    That's awesome that hundreds of migrants have been vaccinated but what about the other thousands that are currently spreading COVID across America?

    If you have an issue with thousands of migrants spreading COVID across America, but not millions of Americans spreading COVID across America, I'm inclined to believe your issue has nothing to do with COVID. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,855
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,855
    FiveBelow said:
    Either you don’t have an understanding of the demographics or you are anti Hispanic. I’m leaning one way but you never know. Looks like the border counties are holding their own.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html
    I'm not sure if this was directed at me, because the article is paywalled. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,801
    If you have an issue with thousands of migrants spreading COVID across America, but not millions of Americans spreading COVID across America, I'm inclined to believe your issue has nothing to do with COVID. 
    +1
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,569
    +1
    ding ding ding ding. we have a winner. 
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,315
    I'm not sure if this was directed at me, because the article is paywalled. 
    It’s an interactive map showing the vaccination percentage by county in the US. Didn’t realize it was behind a paywall, I don’t subscribe to the NYT and it allowed me to navigate the map.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,855
    FiveBelow said:
    It’s an interactive map showing the vaccination percentage by county in the US. Didn’t realize it was behind a paywall, I don’t subscribe to the NYT and it allowed me to navigate the map.
    k, I'll ask again more clearly: are you saying I'm anti Hispanic or don't have a clear understand of the demographics, or was that a general comment to anyone? because without the context of the article, I'm not sure what you are driving at
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,994
    k, I'll ask again more clearly: are you saying I'm anti Hispanic or don't have a clear understand of the demographics, or was that a general comment to anyone? because without the context of the article, I'm not sure what you are driving at

    going out on a limb and say that it was directed at the person you replied to. given statements made by that poster regarding migrants....
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  • jpgoegeljpgoegel Posts: 414
    FiveBelow said:
    It’s an interactive map showing the vaccination percentage by county in the US. Didn’t realize it was behind a paywall, I don’t subscribe to the NYT and it allowed me to navigate the map.
    any paywalled site....you can go to archive.is and paste in the paywalled URL.   after it archives it, it will load for reading

    or so i've heard ;) 
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,315
    k, I'll ask again more clearly: are you saying I'm anti Hispanic or don't have a clear understand of the demographics, or was that a general comment to anyone? because without the context of the article, I'm not sure what you are driving at
    You basically said "don’t worry about immigrants, it’s the people who live on our southern border who are the problem. That’s where the demographics come in, both of those groups are predominantly Hispanic. I just found it weirdly contradictory. The map was more of a fact check to the statement about vaccine refusal.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,994
    FiveBelow said:
    You basically said "don’t worry about immigrants, it’s the people who live on our southern border who are the problem. That’s where the demographics come in, both of those groups are predominantly Hispanic. I just found it weirdly contradictory. The map was more of a fact check to the statement about vaccine refusal.
    I think his point was more its the citizens who are more dangerous right now than migrants. and less about ethnicity. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 40,723
    Sure. Put it on Joe. After Shrub in his deer in the headlights goat story cover allowed his pappy’s accomplices to fly away, but only after all other civil aviation was shut down, and POOTWH determined to release the UFO files, sure. Do you believe?

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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,315
    mickeyrat said:
    I think his point was more its the citizens who are more dangerous right now than migrants. and less about ethnicity. 
    I assumed this as his intent as well. My point being, there are way bigger vaccine hesitancy problem areas to single out than the border population. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,641
    Which one is the real Joe and which one is Disney Land Joe?

    Joe Biden39s Press Conference Cheat Sheet Divides Opinion

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    That Disney one is terrible. Don’t think I would have known it was supposed to be him if I saw it outside the Disneyland attraction surrounded by other presidents. 
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    Sure. Put it on Joe. After Shrub in his deer in the headlights goat story cover allowed his pappy’s accomplices to fly away, but only after all other civil aviation was shut down, and POOTWH determined to release the UFO files, sure. Do you believe?

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,994
    pouring across the border huh?


    WINNFIELD, La. (AP) — Alexander Martinez says he fled from homophobia, government persecution and the notorious MS-13 gang in El Salvador only to run into abuse and harassment in America’s immigration detention system.

    Since crossing the border illegally in April, the 28-year-old has bounced between six different facilities in three states. He said he contracted COVID-19, faced racist taunts and abuse from guards and was harassed by fellow detainees for being gay.

    “I find myself emotionally unstable because I have suffered a lot in detention,” Martinez said last week at Winn Correctional Center in Louisiana. “I never imagined or expected to receive this inhumane treatment."

    He's among a growing number of people in immigration detention centers nationwide, many of whom, like Martinez, have cleared their initial screening to seek asylum in the U.S.

    The number of detainees has more than doubled since the end of February, to nearly 27,000 as of July 22, according to the most recent data from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. That’s above the roughly 22,000 detained last July under then-President Donald Trump, though it’s nowhere close to the record in August 2019, when the number of detainees exceeded 55,000, ICE data shows.



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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,855
    FiveBelow said:
    You basically said "don’t worry about immigrants, it’s the people who live on our southern border who are the problem. That’s where the demographics come in, both of those groups are predominantly Hispanic. I just found it weirdly contradictory. The map was more of a fact check to the statement about vaccine refusal.
    I never said anything about ethnicity, so there was zero contradictory about it. I don't give a shit if the americans refusing to get vaxxed are brown, white, or purple. my point was there's a lot MORE americans not getting vaxxed than to worry about a few border crossers. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,468
    I never said anything about ethnicity, so there was zero contradictory about it. I don't give a shit if the americans refusing to get vaxxed are brown, white, or purple. my point was there's a lot MORE americans not getting vaxxed than to worry about a few border crossers. 
    ...who are being offered the vaccine at the border anyway.  And there's a still open question to one of the people here as to why they believe immigrants should be forced to vaxxed but not citizens. 
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,315
    I never said anything about ethnicity, so there was zero contradictory about it. I don't give a shit if the americans refusing to get vaxxed are brown, white, or purple. my point was there's a lot MORE americans not getting vaxxed than to worry about a few border crossers. 
    The emphasis you put solely on those who live on the southern border threw me off.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    Not sure if this would be the correct thread, but how does everyone feel about the approved eviction moratorium extension?  I, personally, think it is going to result in courts being flooded in lawsuits for a very long time with landlords trying to get compensation.  Also, just saw a story out of California when a couple purchased a new house and the prior owner is refusing to leave and there is nothing the new owners can do about it.  Pretty fucked up if you ask me…
    I think some people have it in their heads that landlords are all crazy wealthy and have no problem forking over money to pay for “squatters”, but that couldn’t be further from the truth.  
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mrussel1 said:
    ...who are being offered the vaccine at the border anyway.  And there's a still open question to one of the people here as to why they believe immigrants should be forced to vaxxed but not citizens. 
    Maybe instead of being forced-vexed, they should be told “no vaccine, no entry”.  That way it is their decision, just like US citizens 👍
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,468
    PJPOWER said:
    Maybe instead of being forced-vexed, they should be told “no vaccine, no entry”.  That way it is their decision, just like US citizens 👍
    The implication was about people already here, not necessarily entering.  Because when I said.. "wait are you saying that the Feds should go door to door and force vaccinations for immigrants?"  The answer was.. "did I stutter?"
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