#46 President Joe Biden

tbergs

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.consumerfinance.gov/coronavirus/mortgage-and-housing-assistance/renter-protections/find-help-with-rent-and-utilities/

All good, but the problem seems to be people that just don’t think they need to pay rent at all since landlord cannot evict them, and sometimes new home owners that have previous owners refusing to leave (essentially squatters).  More and more stories popping up regularly.
If people are truly trying to make things right and applying for assistance and trying to get the landlord money owed, I give them a pass.  But those exploiting the moratorium loopholes, just riding out a “free rent” lifestyle are the shitty ones and I hope they do end up on the streets.

I saw a story a while ago where a live-in nanny had a room as part of her pay. She quit on her first day of the job and hasn't been evicted for months. She has her room and access to all the common areas and the family hasn't been able to do anything about it because of the Covid eviction laws.

Must have been this one, unless you can find another? Only other story I saw was from 2014. Where did you hear about this from last April? Doesn't sound like it was months, although the story is short on actual details.

https://www.moms.com/family-evict-nanny-refused-leave/

mace1229

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

PJPOWER said:

mickeyrat said:

  https://www.consumerfinance.gov/coronavirus/mortgage-and-housing-assistance/renter-protections/find-help-with-rent-and-utilities/

All good, but the problem seems to be people that just don’t think they need to pay rent at all since landlord cannot evict them, and sometimes new home owners that have previous owners refusing to leave (essentially squatters).  More and more stories popping up regularly.
If people are truly trying to make things right and applying for assistance and trying to get the landlord money owed, I give them a pass.  But those exploiting the moratorium loopholes, just riding out a “free rent” lifestyle are the shitty ones and I hope they do end up on the streets.

I saw a story a while ago where a live-in nanny had a room as part of her pay. She quit on her first day of the job and hasn't been evicted for months. She has her room and access to all the common areas and the family hasn't been able to do anything about it because of the Covid eviction laws.

Must have been this one, unless you can find another? Only other story I saw was from 2014. Where did you hear about this from last April? Doesn't sound like it was months, although the story is short on actual details.

https://www.moms.com/family-evict-nanny-refused-leave/

That must have been it. Says she was there 2 1/2 months. My memory said it was longer, but that story is over a year old. I bet it felt like 2 1/2 years for the family though.
I'm actually a little surprised it wasn't longer, because I think a normal eviction under normal times can take almost that long if they don't cooperate and refuse to leave and have to be dragged out by the sheriff dept. 

The Juggler

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-slams-trump-for-racking-up-8-trillion-in-debt-as-he-vows-democrats-will-pay-for-their-spending-plan-by-taxing-the-rich/ar-AANd9vW

Biden slams Trump for racking up $8 trillion in debt as he vows Democrats will pay for their spending plan by taxing the rich

© AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File President Joe Biden. AP Photo/Evan Vucci, File

• During remarks promoting his economic agenda, Biden slammed Trump's tax cuts for racking up debt.
• He said his plans would be fully paid for by raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations.
• The infrastructure and reconciliation bills are both headed to the House for approval.
• See more stories on Insider's business page.

After months of negotiations, the Senate passed President Joe Biden's $1 trillion infrastructure bill on Tuesday. A day later, the president made sure Americans knew his economic agenda would represent a sharp break from President Donald Trump.

"This isn't going to be anything like my predecessor, whose unpaid tax cuts and other spending added nearly $8 trillion in his four years to the national debt - $8 trillion," Biden said on Wednesday.

The passage of the infrastructure plan through the Senate was a major achievement for Biden's Build Back Better agenda, and during his remarks, he touted the plans for creating jobs and boosting economic growth, among other things. He also used this achievement to criticize the debt that came from Trump's tax cuts, saying that Trump didn't even attempt to pay for them.

According to Federal Reserve data, the national debt rose by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump's time in office. During that time, Republicans approved a major corporate-tax cut that added $2 trillion to the national debt, a measure many Democrats and economists said favored the wealthiest Americans.

During Trump's tenure, Democrats and Republicans also struck some spending deals to fund the government, while $3 trillion was added to the national debt specifically to combat the COVID-19 pandemic with stimulus packages that provided small-business aid, enhanced unemployment insurance, and direct payments. Economists largely viewed that spending as critical to keeping people and businesses afloat during the crisis.

Biden vowed he would do things differently and pay for his major spending proposals by hiking taxes on the rich.

"The investments I'm proposing would be fully paid for over the long term by having the largest corporations ... and the superwealthy begin to pay their fair share," Biden said.

Read more: The ultimate White House org chart to 600+ members of Biden's staff and who makes six figures

Biden has remained committed to raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations. When he introduced his infrastructure proposals, he wanted to fund them with a corporate-tax hike to 28%, still only a partial reversal of Trump's 2017 corporate-tax cut. He said at the time that he was "sick and tired of ordinary people being fleeced."

Republicans have strictly opposed raising taxes on the rich, but Senate Democrats are attempting to do that with their $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill, which can be passed without any Republican votes.

Both the infrastructure and reconciliation bills are headed to the House for approval, marking wins for Democrats in advancing Biden's economic plans.

"We brought this economy back from a cold start," Biden said. "And there is going to be some ups and down. But I am committed to making sure our historic economic recovery reaches everyone."

Biden later dismissed recent GOP threats that they wouldn't assist Democrats in raising the debt ceiling, a step that would authorize the US government to pay off its debt load. "Nope, they're not going to let us default," he said.

static111

brianlux said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Senate passes the infrastructure bill 69-30.  To quote a shitty president "promises made, promises kept".  This is a big win.  My guess is that healthcare becomes the signature issue in 2022.  This will allow the D's to campaign on it and put the R's in a position to be against it, which won't be a winning side.  

Who needs healthcare?

I’ve made it to 39 and 7/8ths years old in america without continuous reliable affordable healthcare…why start now?

Because in a few months your warranty will expire. 

  

nicknyr15

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

HughFreakingDillon

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

The Juggler

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

Bound to happen. Most president's numbers go down towards the middle to end of their first year. Still way higher than Trump, higher than Clinton, and just slightly below Obama and Bush at the same point in their first year

538 averages:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

when I posted my reply, there wasn't a single doubt in my mind that someone would criticize a mention of trump, even though it was obviously a joke. 

and here we are. 

I really don't give two fucks about an approval rating. the former guy is the one who made a big deal about it every other day. sometimes the people don't understand the big picture of things in the immediate present; as you said, his rating over time is what will matter when it comes to 2022. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

Ledbetterman10

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

when I posted my reply, there wasn't a single doubt in my mind that someone would criticize a mention of trump, even though it was obviously a joke. 

and here we are. 

I really don't give two fucks about an approval rating. the former guy is the one who made a big deal about it every other day. sometimes the people don't understand the big picture of things in the immediate present; as you said, his rating over time is what will matter when it comes to 2022. 

BUT here we are. Not AND here we are. Come on, now...

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

I unfollowed him on twitter a year ago he's so bad. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

I unfollowed him on twitter a year ago he's so bad. 

I had to the do the same thing with Lenny Dykstra lol 

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

I unfollowed him on twitter a year ago he's so bad. 

I had to the do the same thing with Lenny Dykstra lol 

Me too! At first, I loved seeing him pop up on twitter, but, yeah....he's way too out there and crazy for me. 

Ledbetterman10

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

I unfollowed him on twitter a year ago he's so bad. 

I had to the do the same thing with Lenny Dykstra lol 

Me too! At first, I loved seeing him pop up on twitter, but, yeah....he's way too out there and crazy for me. 

I remember his first day on Twitter. He was live-tweeting a re-run of Full House, and it was legitimately funny. Stuff like "Is that Mary Kate or Ashley?" or "Uncle Jessie totally wants to bang Kimmie Gibbler." I'm thought he'd be a perfect twitter-follow. But it was downhill after that. 

HughFreakingDillon

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

when I posted my reply, there wasn't a single doubt in my mind that someone would criticize a mention of trump, even though it was obviously a joke. 

and here we are. 

I really don't give two fucks about an approval rating. the former guy is the one who made a big deal about it every other day. sometimes the people don't understand the big picture of things in the immediate present; as you said, his rating over time is what will matter when it comes to 2022. 

BUT here we are. Not AND here we are. Come on, now...

"but" is used if it's something unexpected (toilet). "and" is used when it is expected. 

The Juggler

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

nicknyr15 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/08/18/politics/joe-biden-polls-president-afghanistan/index.html

good thing we have a prez who won't tweet about his approval numbers from the golden toilet at 3am. haha

When I saw this link posted, there was not a single doubt in my mind that whoever responded to it was going to bring up Trump. Wasn't expecting his toilet to be involved, but here we are. 

A good point that article makes is to basically forget about Trump for a moment (if that's possible) and compare Biden to normal presidents. When you do, Biden's approval rating is a full 10 points lower than Obama's was at this point in his presidency. Could be just an "in the moment" sort of thing following this Afghanistan stuff. Or maybe his approval will begin declining. Too early to tell. 

Not really. Instead of cherry picking polls, just go to the 538 average:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

12 points higher than Trump
3 points below Obama
3 points below Bush
6 points above Clinton

I think hovering right around 50% is pretty normal in a divided country. I would bet his numbers continue to slide for the coming weeks or maybe months, levelling off right around 50% by the end of the year. 


Also, Chris Cillizza is trash. I don't understand how he still has a job. 

Well the poll from that article that lists Biden at 49% is the 538 average. But yeah number on Obama I provided is from only Gallup. Not sure why this article would link to the same 538 page you do....but then not use their numbers for Obama, Bush, etc. 

...because Chris Cillizza is a sensationalist piece of trash journalist desperate for clicks. lol

You're our resident poll guy, I'll take your word for it. I've never even heard of him. 

I unfollowed him on twitter a year ago he's so bad. 

I had to the do the same thing with Lenny Dykstra lol 

Me too! At first, I loved seeing him pop up on twitter, but, yeah....he's way too out there and crazy for me. 

I remember his first day on Twitter. He was live-tweeting a re-run of Full House, and it was legitimately funny. Stuff like "Is that Mary Kate or Ashley?" or "Uncle Jessie totally wants to bang Kimmie Gibbler." I'm thought he'd be a perfect twitter-follow. But it was downhill after that. 

I gave his feed a quick once over after you brought him up. He seems like a zanier, more drugged out, version of Curt Schilling at this point. I'll pass.