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Yes for a concert.Kat said:
Thanks, we can't post complete articles for copyright reasons but a short portion of it followed by a link is respecting copyrights. That one is behind a paywall so can you characterize it? I've taken a photo of my vax card and some articles are saying that could be enough. Has anyone done that and used the image successfully as proof?mrussel1 said:
Here's an article from the Post a few days ago that went through them. If you can't see it, I can post it in full. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/07/31/covid-vaccine-card-phone/Kat said:Can anyone recommend a good vax app that you can use as proof of vax? Some seem to be phishing so I'm looking for something that isn't doing that. Are there any good ones? Thanks.
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Good to hear. More like that, please. Falling down,...not staying down0
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Kat said:Good to hear. More like that, please.
Highlights from a very long article.. I'm surprised this is behind the paywall. Anything covid was supposed to be free.Store your scanned CDC card in an app
Use this: Clear, VaxYes and Airside.
The three broadly available options we looked into — VaxYes, Airside Digital Identity and Clear — have a few things in common. All three let you carry your digital vaccine cards free. They also all require you to upload images of your CDC card and government ID, and you’ll need to manually type in details about where and when you got your jabs.
VaxYes, created by a start-up called WellPay, converts your card into a fancy bar code known as a QR code. It offers different levels of “verification”: You’ll hit Level 1 just by uploading the files it asks for, which doesn’t do much to prove they’re legit. You’ll continue to achieve higher levels of verification as VaxYes continues its checks. Airside is more straightforward and does a better job of spelling out who your selfie and ID will be shared with early on. (You can also revoke that consent at any time.) Once you give the company what it asks for, you’re given a digital version of your card that lives inside the Airside app — no scannable QR codes here. Meanwhile, Clear offers the most comprehensive option: It uses your phone’s camera to check that you’re a living, breathing person, and makes it easy for venue staff to tell the difference between people who just scanned their paper card and people who uploaded a fully authenticated digital record. (More on that below.)
All three have potential issues. Clear is the only service we tested that works just as well on Android phones as it does on iPhones. It’s hard to tell where the proof from these apps will be accepted. VaxYes, which says it has more than 1 million users, told us it’s focusing on states such as Kansas, Texas and South Carolina. And while Clear and Airside’s health passes should pass muster anywhere your paper card does, acceptance still depends on each destination.
Download an official digital health record
Use this: CommonPass, Excelsior Pass, Clear.
Pros: It’s 100 percent verified and can help if you’ve lost your physical CDC card.
Cons: Every state and provider does it differently, and setup can be complicated.
Most states and health-care providers have databases of who has received the vaccine. Increasingly they’re opening them up to citizens so they can download a digital record — a.k.a. one that can’t be easily faked.
These records can take the form of a link to your pharmacy’s website or a QR code you download. California helped lead the way by introducing digital health records in June, and now they’re available from at least six states (and counting) as well as at Walmart, CVS and Walgreens and health-care providers using medical records from Epic and Cerner.
Once you have this digital record, though, what do you do with it? In some cases, like with the Excelsior Pass used by New York businesses, it might be enough to simply show the app with your record on it.
In other cases, you’ll need extra health verification or wallet apps such as CommonPass and Clear, which can confirm your information and store it so you can share it as needed. (Clear is unique in that it accepts either a scan of the CDC card or digital records.) The iPhone’s Health app will gain the ability to hold vaccination records with this fall’s iOS 15 update.
These apps can take different approaches to security: CommonPass keeps your data on your phone, while Clear sends it to its cloud (which it says it has locked down).
We’re going to level with you: The all-digital approach can be a lot of work. Take flying to Hawaii, which in July began accepting vaccination proof as a way to avoid its quarantine. If you’re coming from California, first, you have to download your QR code record from the state website. Then you download the CommonPass app to scan your record so it can check you against Hawaii’s requirements. Then you enter a special code from the CommonPass app into Hawaii’s Safe Travel website to get verified.
The alternative is just to photograph your CDC card and upload it to Hawaii’s website. Either way, you should bring your physical card when you travel just in case there are any technical issues.
The good news: After you set up all of this once, you can access it more quickly in the future. And as the many different players smooth out links between these systems, having digital proof at hand promises to become more useful.
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Thank you, m. I'll try looking into this all very soon. It's not safe enough yet but I'll likely need to be prepared to show proof in some places and I want to be ready so there are no problems when I want to go somewhere. Have a good weekend.mrussel1 said:Kat said:Good to hear. More like that, please.
Highlights from a very long article.. I'm surprised this is behind the paywall. Anything covid was supposed to be free.Store your scanned CDC card in an app
Use this: Clear, VaxYes and Airside.
The three broadly available options we looked into — VaxYes, Airside Digital Identity and Clear — have a few things in common. All three let you carry your digital vaccine cards free. They also all require you to upload images of your CDC card and government ID, and you’ll need to manually type in details about where and when you got your jabs.
VaxYes, created by a start-up called WellPay, converts your card into a fancy bar code known as a QR code. It offers different levels of “verification”: You’ll hit Level 1 just by uploading the files it asks for, which doesn’t do much to prove they’re legit. You’ll continue to achieve higher levels of verification as VaxYes continues its checks. Airside is more straightforward and does a better job of spelling out who your selfie and ID will be shared with early on. (You can also revoke that consent at any time.) Once you give the company what it asks for, you’re given a digital version of your card that lives inside the Airside app — no scannable QR codes here. Meanwhile, Clear offers the most comprehensive option: It uses your phone’s camera to check that you’re a living, breathing person, and makes it easy for venue staff to tell the difference between people who just scanned their paper card and people who uploaded a fully authenticated digital record. (More on that below.)
All three have potential issues. Clear is the only service we tested that works just as well on Android phones as it does on iPhones. It’s hard to tell where the proof from these apps will be accepted. VaxYes, which says it has more than 1 million users, told us it’s focusing on states such as Kansas, Texas and South Carolina. And while Clear and Airside’s health passes should pass muster anywhere your paper card does, acceptance still depends on each destination.
Download an official digital health record
Use this: CommonPass, Excelsior Pass, Clear.
Pros: It’s 100 percent verified and can help if you’ve lost your physical CDC card.
Cons: Every state and provider does it differently, and setup can be complicated.
Most states and health-care providers have databases of who has received the vaccine. Increasingly they’re opening them up to citizens so they can download a digital record — a.k.a. one that can’t be easily faked.
These records can take the form of a link to your pharmacy’s website or a QR code you download. California helped lead the way by introducing digital health records in June, and now they’re available from at least six states (and counting) as well as at Walmart, CVS and Walgreens and health-care providers using medical records from Epic and Cerner.
Once you have this digital record, though, what do you do with it? In some cases, like with the Excelsior Pass used by New York businesses, it might be enough to simply show the app with your record on it.
In other cases, you’ll need extra health verification or wallet apps such as CommonPass and Clear, which can confirm your information and store it so you can share it as needed. (Clear is unique in that it accepts either a scan of the CDC card or digital records.) The iPhone’s Health app will gain the ability to hold vaccination records with this fall’s iOS 15 update.
These apps can take different approaches to security: CommonPass keeps your data on your phone, while Clear sends it to its cloud (which it says it has locked down).
We’re going to level with you: The all-digital approach can be a lot of work. Take flying to Hawaii, which in July began accepting vaccination proof as a way to avoid its quarantine. If you’re coming from California, first, you have to download your QR code record from the state website. Then you download the CommonPass app to scan your record so it can check you against Hawaii’s requirements. Then you enter a special code from the CommonPass app into Hawaii’s Safe Travel website to get verified.
The alternative is just to photograph your CDC card and upload it to Hawaii’s website. Either way, you should bring your physical card when you travel just in case there are any technical issues.
The good news: After you set up all of this once, you can access it more quickly in the future. And as the many different players smooth out links between these systems, having digital proof at hand promises to become more useful.
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It should be fine. It sufficed for my doc. *edit - docSKat said:
Thanks, we can't post complete articles for copyright reasons but a short portion of it followed by a link is respecting copyrights. That one is behind a paywall so can you characterize it? I've taken a photo of my vax card and some articles are saying that could be enough. Has anyone done that and used the image successfully as proof?mrussel1 said:
Here's an article from the Post a few days ago that went through them. If you can't see it, I can post it in full. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/07/31/covid-vaccine-card-phone/Kat said:Can anyone recommend a good vax app that you can use as proof of vax? Some seem to be phishing so I'm looking for something that isn't doing that. Are there any good ones? Thanks. Stay safe.
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gimmesometruth27 said:Couldn't watch more than 1-2 minutes, that woman's up close shot/makeup is going to give me nightmares. Something creepy there, to me.
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iOS 15 update this fall will allow us iPhone users to store immunization records in the Health app.Kat said:Can anyone recommend a good vax app that you can use as proof of vax? Some seem to be phishing so I'm looking for something that isn't doing that. Are there any good ones? Thanks. Stay safe.0 -
at first I honestly thought it was CGI or something. she's a living emojiF Me In The Brain said:gimmesometruth27 said:Couldn't watch more than 1-2 minutes, that woman's up close shot/makeup is going to give me nightmares. Something creepy there, to me. I get the point of it, though, and think that would make a perfect SNL commercial. Funny stuff.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Kat said:
Thank you, m. I'll try looking into this all very soon. It's not safe enough yet but I'll likely need to be prepared to show proof in some places and I want to be ready so there are no problems when I want to go somewhere. Have a good weekend.mrussel1 said:Kat said:Good to hear. More like that, please.
Highlights from a very long article.. I'm surprised this is behind the paywall. Anything covid was supposed to be free.Store your scanned CDC card in an app
Use this: Clear, VaxYes and Airside.
The three broadly available options we looked into — VaxYes, Airside Digital Identity and Clear — have a few things in common. All three let you carry your digital vaccine cards free. They also all require you to upload images of your CDC card and government ID, and you’ll need to manually type in details about where and when you got your jabs.
VaxYes, created by a start-up called WellPay, converts your card into a fancy bar code known as a QR code. It offers different levels of “verification”: You’ll hit Level 1 just by uploading the files it asks for, which doesn’t do much to prove they’re legit. You’ll continue to achieve higher levels of verification as VaxYes continues its checks. Airside is more straightforward and does a better job of spelling out who your selfie and ID will be shared with early on. (You can also revoke that consent at any time.) Once you give the company what it asks for, you’re given a digital version of your card that lives inside the Airside app — no scannable QR codes here. Meanwhile, Clear offers the most comprehensive option: It uses your phone’s camera to check that you’re a living, breathing person, and makes it easy for venue staff to tell the difference between people who just scanned their paper card and people who uploaded a fully authenticated digital record. (More on that below.)
All three have potential issues. Clear is the only service we tested that works just as well on Android phones as it does on iPhones. It’s hard to tell where the proof from these apps will be accepted. VaxYes, which says it has more than 1 million users, told us it’s focusing on states such as Kansas, Texas and South Carolina. And while Clear and Airside’s health passes should pass muster anywhere your paper card does, acceptance still depends on each destination.
Download an official digital health record
Use this: CommonPass, Excelsior Pass, Clear.
Pros: It’s 100 percent verified and can help if you’ve lost your physical CDC card.
Cons: Every state and provider does it differently, and setup can be complicated.
Most states and health-care providers have databases of who has received the vaccine. Increasingly they’re opening them up to citizens so they can download a digital record — a.k.a. one that can’t be easily faked.
These records can take the form of a link to your pharmacy’s website or a QR code you download. California helped lead the way by introducing digital health records in June, and now they’re available from at least six states (and counting) as well as at Walmart, CVS and Walgreens and health-care providers using medical records from Epic and Cerner.
Once you have this digital record, though, what do you do with it? In some cases, like with the Excelsior Pass used by New York businesses, it might be enough to simply show the app with your record on it.
In other cases, you’ll need extra health verification or wallet apps such as CommonPass and Clear, which can confirm your information and store it so you can share it as needed. (Clear is unique in that it accepts either a scan of the CDC card or digital records.) The iPhone’s Health app will gain the ability to hold vaccination records with this fall’s iOS 15 update.
These apps can take different approaches to security: CommonPass keeps your data on your phone, while Clear sends it to its cloud (which it says it has locked down).
We’re going to level with you: The all-digital approach can be a lot of work. Take flying to Hawaii, which in July began accepting vaccination proof as a way to avoid its quarantine. If you’re coming from California, first, you have to download your QR code record from the state website. Then you download the CommonPass app to scan your record so it can check you against Hawaii’s requirements. Then you enter a special code from the CommonPass app into Hawaii’s Safe Travel website to get verified.
The alternative is just to photograph your CDC card and upload it to Hawaii’s website. Either way, you should bring your physical card when you travel just in case there are any technical issues.
The good news: After you set up all of this once, you can access it more quickly in the future. And as the many different players smooth out links between these systems, having digital proof at hand promises to become more useful.
can I ask from where did you recieve your shot(s)?CVS has a myhealth app that links to various hospital systems and Drs offices.info here....my Docs office is linked with nextmd.com which is a patient portal and would have that info too.....
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This is clearly a well veiled hint about a soon to be announced Pearl Jam 2022 tour requiring proof of vaccination, right Kat?Kat said:
Thank you, m. I'll try looking into this all very soon. It's not safe enough yet but I'll likely need to be prepared to show proof in some places and I want to be ready so there are no problems when I want to go somewhere. Have a good weekend.mrussel1 said:Kat said:Good to hear. More like that, please.
Highlights from a very long article.. I'm surprised this is behind the paywall. Anything covid was supposed to be free.Store your scanned CDC card in an app
Use this: Clear, VaxYes and Airside.
The three broadly available options we looked into — VaxYes, Airside Digital Identity and Clear — have a few things in common. All three let you carry your digital vaccine cards free. They also all require you to upload images of your CDC card and government ID, and you’ll need to manually type in details about where and when you got your jabs.
VaxYes, created by a start-up called WellPay, converts your card into a fancy bar code known as a QR code. It offers different levels of “verification”: You’ll hit Level 1 just by uploading the files it asks for, which doesn’t do much to prove they’re legit. You’ll continue to achieve higher levels of verification as VaxYes continues its checks. Airside is more straightforward and does a better job of spelling out who your selfie and ID will be shared with early on. (You can also revoke that consent at any time.) Once you give the company what it asks for, you’re given a digital version of your card that lives inside the Airside app — no scannable QR codes here. Meanwhile, Clear offers the most comprehensive option: It uses your phone’s camera to check that you’re a living, breathing person, and makes it easy for venue staff to tell the difference between people who just scanned their paper card and people who uploaded a fully authenticated digital record. (More on that below.)
All three have potential issues. Clear is the only service we tested that works just as well on Android phones as it does on iPhones. It’s hard to tell where the proof from these apps will be accepted. VaxYes, which says it has more than 1 million users, told us it’s focusing on states such as Kansas, Texas and South Carolina. And while Clear and Airside’s health passes should pass muster anywhere your paper card does, acceptance still depends on each destination.
Download an official digital health record
Use this: CommonPass, Excelsior Pass, Clear.
Pros: It’s 100 percent verified and can help if you’ve lost your physical CDC card.
Cons: Every state and provider does it differently, and setup can be complicated.
Most states and health-care providers have databases of who has received the vaccine. Increasingly they’re opening them up to citizens so they can download a digital record — a.k.a. one that can’t be easily faked.
These records can take the form of a link to your pharmacy’s website or a QR code you download. California helped lead the way by introducing digital health records in June, and now they’re available from at least six states (and counting) as well as at Walmart, CVS and Walgreens and health-care providers using medical records from Epic and Cerner.
Once you have this digital record, though, what do you do with it? In some cases, like with the Excelsior Pass used by New York businesses, it might be enough to simply show the app with your record on it.
In other cases, you’ll need extra health verification or wallet apps such as CommonPass and Clear, which can confirm your information and store it so you can share it as needed. (Clear is unique in that it accepts either a scan of the CDC card or digital records.) The iPhone’s Health app will gain the ability to hold vaccination records with this fall’s iOS 15 update.
These apps can take different approaches to security: CommonPass keeps your data on your phone, while Clear sends it to its cloud (which it says it has locked down).
We’re going to level with you: The all-digital approach can be a lot of work. Take flying to Hawaii, which in July began accepting vaccination proof as a way to avoid its quarantine. If you’re coming from California, first, you have to download your QR code record from the state website. Then you download the CommonPass app to scan your record so it can check you against Hawaii’s requirements. Then you enter a special code from the CommonPass app into Hawaii’s Safe Travel website to get verified.
The alternative is just to photograph your CDC card and upload it to Hawaii’s website. Either way, you should bring your physical card when you travel just in case there are any technical issues.
The good news: After you set up all of this once, you can access it more quickly in the future. And as the many different players smooth out links between these systems, having digital proof at hand promises to become more useful.
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I have no info. You know they have to be itching to get out there and do Gigaton live...and everyone is itching to hear it and see them and party like it's 1999. We all want the same thing but not until it's safe. I'm just one of those get ready for anything early types. You stay safe and have a beautiful weekend. Big hugs.
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Kat said:I have no info. You know they have to be itching to get out there and do Gigaton live...and everyone is itching to hear it and see them and party like it's 1999. We all want the same thing but not until it's safe. I'm just one of those get ready for anything early types. You stay safe and have a beautiful weekend. Big hugs.
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I agree with Nick. Time to mind our own business and move on unless everyone is willing to go the federally mandated route. Shaming has never and will never work for any but the weakest minds. I’d also like people to stop equating unvaxxed with Trumpers and deplorables. Sorry to let you know there are progressives, minorities, trans people etc out there turning down the vax for various reasons that have nothing to do with Trump or right wing politics. Some people don’t trust govt, big pharma, news media etc for very legitimate reasons, I think they are wrong on covid obviously, but without a pattern of deceit spanning years many people wouldn’t have so much mistrust. I also will guarantee you there is someone you know that is not fully vaxxed and is lying to you that they are. I wish everyone would get vaccinated, but it’s just not going to happen unless things get really bad. At this point all the stats and finger wagging will literally do nothing. If anything we need some compassionate teaching in this moment.nicknyr15 said:
Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people. I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring.gimmesometruth27 said:at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.
you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum.
i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it.Scio me nihil scire
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I agree. This is where I was coming from only much better expressed.static111 said:
I agree with Nick. Time to mind our own business and move on unless everyone is willing to go the federally mandated route. Shaming has never and will never work for any but the weakest minds. I’d also like people to stop equating unvaxxed with Trumpers and deplorables. Sorry to let you know there are progressives, minorities, trans people etc out there turning down the vax for various reasons that have nothing to do with Trump or right wing politics. Some people don’t trust govt, big pharma, news media etc for very legitimate reasons, I think they are wrong on covid obviously, but without a pattern of deceit spanning years many people wouldn’t have so much mistrust. I also will guarantee you there is someone you know that is not fully vaxxed and is lying to you that they are. I wish everyone would get vaccinated, but it’s just not going to happen unless things get really bad. At this point all the stats and finger wagging will literally do nothing. If anything we need some compassionate teaching in this moment.nicknyr15 said:
Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people. I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring.gimmesometruth27 said:at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.
you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum.
i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it.0 -
The problem is right wing politicians and media validating those beliefs.static111 said:
I agree with Nick. Time to mind our own business and move on unless everyone is willing to go the federally mandated route. Shaming has never and will never work for any but the weakest minds. I’d also like people to stop equating unvaxxed with Trumpers and deplorables. Sorry to let you know there are progressives, minorities, trans people etc out there turning down the vax for various reasons that have nothing to do with Trump or right wing politics. Some people don’t trust govt, big pharma, news media etc for very legitimate reasons, I think they are wrong on covid obviously, but without a pattern of deceit spanning years many people wouldn’t have so much mistrust. I also will guarantee you there is someone you know that is not fully vaxxed and is lying to you that they are. I wish everyone would get vaccinated, but it’s just not going to happen unless things get really bad. At this point all the stats and finger wagging will literally do nothing. If anything we need some compassionate teaching in this moment.nicknyr15 said:
Shaming won’t work. Ever. I thinks it’s time for everyone to mind their own business and move on. I’m sick of hearing from both vaccinated and non vaccinated people. I’m not directing this at you or anyone in particular at all. It’s just tiring.gimmesometruth27 said:at this point i think we need to just start shaming the antivaxxers. keep them out of places where they can spread to other people who are masking and following recommendations.
you don't want to get a vaccine? fine. do not go to that restaurant. do not go to that concert. we have done what has been asked of us. we have gotten the vaccine and still wear masks and still wash hands and take precautions. i am tired of doing everything that has been asked of me and still having to fear going to places because of people who refuse to do the bare minimum.
i believe it is time for rewards and consequences. we should have been on the other side of this thing months ago. the non vaccinated are fucking up my business and costing me money and i am sick of it.0 -
How's this for some unhinged insanity...
Marjorie Taylor Greene Suggests People Encouraging Others to Get Vaccinated Should Be Shot
Unsurprisingly, that politician is Marjorie Taylor Greene, whose own existence is hopefully inspiring scientists to develop a vaccine against crazy. At an event last month in Alabama, the Georgia representative, who has previously compared mask mandates to the Holocaust and vaccine requirements to segregation, suggested that the Biden administration’s door-to-door vaccination push will result in government officials showing up to people’s homes and demanding personal information for extremely nefarious purposes, and that those people should be greeted with the barrel of a gun.
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