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One CEO of one hospital, sitting with DeSantis, is not statewide data. It's an anecdote for his hospital only. Let's just be clear here. All of these tweets are based on anecdotes.gvn2fly1421 said:Some data out of Florida... A couple of things I take from it.
1. 1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid. Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2. Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3. Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out. I guess bring on Lambda.0 -
Yes if a hospital releases your personal information without consent that would violate your privacytempo_n_groove said:
If a company uses that information for other purposes then does it violate Hippa laws?josevolution said:
You will soon and Hippa has zero to do with asking the ? Of are you vaccinated..tempo_n_groove said:
I've benn to Mexico, Canada, Barbados, Jordan, Dubai, Iraq and the Bahamas and I never had to show a vaccination card.F Me In The Brain said:tempo_n_groove said:NYC mandates are still on the rollout. New guidelines are you MUST show proof of vaccination if you want to go to a restaurant or gym. DeBlasio just announced this.
I'm not sure how he can actually demand this? There are rules against asking someone about their medical history.What rules?You have to show proof around vaccinations for other things in life. (To go to some countries, for instance.)jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
A true defender of the science!mrussel1 said:
One CEO of one hospital, sitting with DeSantis, is not statewide data. It's an anecdote for his hospital only. Let's just be clear here. All of these tweets are based on anecdotes.gvn2fly1421 said:Some data out of Florida... A couple of things I take from it.
1. 1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid. Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2. Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3. Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out. I guess bring on Lambda.
Hey, I know you have experience with investing in stocks, what do you think of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation investing in BioNTech in Aug-Sep of 2019. And also, can you tell how much that investment was at the time and what it is worth now? Thanks in advance!
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312519241112/d635330df1.htm
In August 2019 we agreed to issue up to 3,038,674 ordinary shares in a private placement to BMGF for aggregate consideration of €49.8 million. Such issuance will occur upon registration of the shares in the commercial register (Handelsregister), which we expect to occur in early September 2019.
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Company I was referring to though.josevolution said:
Yes if a hospital releases your personal information without consent that would violate your privacytempo_n_groove said:
If a company uses that information for other purposes then does it violate Hippa laws?josevolution said:
You will soon and Hippa has zero to do with asking the ? Of are you vaccinated..tempo_n_groove said:
I've benn to Mexico, Canada, Barbados, Jordan, Dubai, Iraq and the Bahamas and I never had to show a vaccination card.F Me In The Brain said:tempo_n_groove said:NYC mandates are still on the rollout. New guidelines are you MUST show proof of vaccination if you want to go to a restaurant or gym. DeBlasio just announced this.
I'm not sure how he can actually demand this? There are rules against asking someone about their medical history.What rules?You have to show proof around vaccinations for other things in life. (To go to some countries, for instance.)0 -
I'm a defender of math and I've learned never to lean into anecdotes.gvn2fly1421 said:
A true defender of the science!mrussel1 said:
One CEO of one hospital, sitting with DeSantis, is not statewide data. It's an anecdote for his hospital only. Let's just be clear here. All of these tweets are based on anecdotes.gvn2fly1421 said:Some data out of Florida... A couple of things I take from it.
1. 1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid. Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2. Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3. Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out. I guess bring on Lambda.
Hey, I know you have experience with investing in stocks, what do you think of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation investing in BioNTech in Aug-Sep of 2019. And also, can you tell how much that investment was at the time and what it is worth now? Thanks in advance!
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312519241112/d635330df1.htm
In August 2019 we agreed to issue up to 3,038,674 ordinary shares in a private placement to BMGF for aggregate consideration of €49.8 million. Such issuance will occur upon registration of the shares in the commercial register (Handelsregister), which we expect to occur in early September 2019.
Bill Gates has been an advocate of vaccines through his foundation for many years. One would expect him to be a heavy investor in biotechs. This release is from 2010.. 10 billion dollar investment. https://www.gatesfoundation.org/ideas/media-center/press-releases/2010/01/bill-and-melinda-gates-pledge-$10-billion-in-call-for-decade-of-vaccines
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Bill Gates has been investing in vaccines, and actually warned of the next pandemic, for YEARS. Another pivot, another fail.gvn2fly1421 said:
A true defender of the science!mrussel1 said:
One CEO of one hospital, sitting with DeSantis, is not statewide data. It's an anecdote for his hospital only. Let's just be clear here. All of these tweets are based on anecdotes.gvn2fly1421 said:Some data out of Florida... A couple of things I take from it.
1. 1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid. Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2. Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3. Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out. I guess bring on Lambda.
Hey, I know you have experience with investing in stocks, what do you think of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation investing in BioNTech in Aug-Sep of 2019. And also, can you tell how much that investment was at the time and what it is worth now? Thanks in advance!
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312519241112/d635330df1.htm
In August 2019 we agreed to issue up to 3,038,674 ordinary shares in a private placement to BMGF for aggregate consideration of €49.8 million. Such issuance will occur upon registration of the shares in the commercial register (Handelsregister), which we expect to occur in early September 2019.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
my apologies for being blunt, but I don't think you understand what "data" is. this ain't it.gvn2fly1421 said:Some data out of Florida... A couple of things I take from it.
1. 1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid. Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2. Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3. Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out. I guess bring on Lambda.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
They should not be skewing the numbers with hospitalizations with covid. If I am in the hospital for another matter and test positive since everyone gets tested that number should only go towards the case count if I do not need medical care for the virus. It is 2021. How can they not have the technology to separate these and if they do have the means to be able to statistically represent them differently why are they not?0
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Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?0 -
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What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around. Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity. A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease. So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
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Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way. My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:
When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot. One shot. Not mRNA. Seems to be the best route for us. Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?
Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated. What exactly does that mean? Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"? If so, when will this cycle stop?0 -
oftenreading said:
What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?
TY both.mrussel1 said:
I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around. Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity. A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease. So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
My understanding of it was a vaccine was 100% effective, full immunity. It is not. Got it.
Is a disease the same as a virus? If a vaccine works for a disease like mentioned above is it the same for a virus?
The other part is the underground conspiracy freaks brought it up and it didn't make sense to how they described it. You need to pay attention to the crazies and see what they are cooking.
I want to fully understand the wording.
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I’d really like to know what went on at that Winnipeg lab where 2 Chinese scientist with ties to the CCP were fired and disappeared back to China?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/winnipeg-china-links-otoole-motion-1.6048492
And what is Trudeau the man with a plan (I’m told that here by his minions) hiding? Afterall he his suing the speaker of the house a member of his own party, so Canadians don’t find out what the Chinese stole and were up to…hmmm
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/commons-speaker-intends-to-ask-court-to-strike-down-government-lawsuit-challenging-parliaments-right-to-know
Perhaps this dude is better suited hanging out in Whistler than being PM.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
The part I bolded is what I'm curious about too.gvn2fly1421 said:
I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way. My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:
When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot. One shot. Not mRNA. Seems to be the best route for us. Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?
Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated. What exactly does that mean? Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"? If so, when will this cycle stop?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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http://wegotshit.blogspot.com0 -
Trudeau had such a great plan that he underfunded and failed to fill a key position in Canada 🇨🇦 pandemic early response system…
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/global-pandemic-early-warning-1.6098988Could you imagine how much worse it could have been without a plan.
Maybe Trudeau consulted our defence minister Sajjan…he was the chief architect of d day…(inside Canadian joke with clown).Give Peas A Chance…0 -
gvn2fly1421 said:
I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way. My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:
When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot. One shot. Not mRNA. Seems to be the best route for us. Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?
Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated. What exactly does that mean? Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"? If so, when will this cycle stop?
Never. The cycle never stops.
Vaccine have been required for years. Enforcement will become more efficient.
Deal with it.0
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