Viruses / Vaccines

josevolution said:

tempo_n_groove said:

josevolution said:

tempo_n_groove said:

F Me In The Brain said:

tempo_n_groove said:

NYC mandates are still on the rollout.  New guidelines are you MUST show proof of vaccination if you want to go to a restaurant or gym.  DeBlasio just announced this.

I'm not sure how he can actually demand this?  There are rules against asking someone about their medical history.

What rules?

You have to show proof around vaccinations for other things in life.  (To go to some countries, for instance.)

I've benn to Mexico, Canada, Barbados, Jordan, Dubai, Iraq and the Bahamas and I never had to show a vaccination card.

You will soon and Hippa has zero to do with asking the ? Of are you vaccinated..

If a company uses that information for other purposes then does it violate Hippa laws?

Yes if a hospital releases your personal information without consent that would violate your privacy 

gvn2fly1421 said:

mrussel1 said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

Some data out of Florida...  A couple of things I take from it.

1.  1 out of 4 hospitalizations for covid are not from covid.  Definitely skews the numbers and could make things appear worse than they are.
2.  Vaccines seem to be doing their jobs as far as preventing serious illness.
3.  Much like India and the UK, delta seems to have come and is on the way out.  I guess bring on Lambda.

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1422922488703602693

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1422922952039936001

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1422923556665663492

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1422923912418140163

https://twitter.com/kylamb8/status/1422927532106584065

One CEO of one hospital, sitting with DeSantis, is not statewide data.  It's an anecdote for his hospital only.  Let's just be clear here.  All of these tweets are based on anecdotes.  

A true defender of the science!

Hey, I know you have experience with investing in stocks, what do you think of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation investing in BioNTech in Aug-Sep of 2019.  And also, can you tell how much that investment was at the time and what it is worth now?  Thanks in advance!

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1776985/000119312519241112/d635330df1.htm

In August 2019 we agreed to issue up to 3,038,674 ordinary shares in a private placement to BMGF for aggregate consideration of €49.8 million. Such issuance will occur upon registration of the shares in the commercial register (Handelsregister), which we expect to occur in early September 2019.

tempo_n_groove said:

Question.

Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition?  I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.

My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.

Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

oftenreading said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Question.

Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition?  I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.

My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.

Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?

What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?

mrussel1 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Question.

Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition?  I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.

My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.

Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?

I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around.  Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity.  A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease.  So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:

Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.

Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.

Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.

Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.

gvn2fly1421 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Weston1283 said:

Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...

I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way.  My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.

When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot.  One shot.  Not mRNA.  Seems to be the best route for us.  Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?

Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated.  What exactly does that mean?  Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"?  If so, when will this cycle stop?