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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,371
    US employers ratchet up the pressure on the unvaccinated
    By ALEXANDRA OLSON
    59 mins ago

    NEW YORK (AP) — Employers are losing patience with unvaccinated workers.

    For months, most employers relied on information campaigns, bonuses and other incentives to encourage their workforces to get the COVID-19 shot. Now, a growing number are imposing rules to make it more onerous for employees to refuse, from outright mandates to requiring the unvaccinated to undergo regular testing.

    Among employers getting tougher are the federal government, the state governments of California and New York, tech giants Google and Facebook, the Walt Disney Co. and the NFL. Some hospitals, universities, restaurants, bars and other entertainment venues have also started requiring vaccines.

    But the new measures are unlikely to affect many of the millions of unvaccinated Americans.

    Many of the companies that are requiring shots have mostly office workers who are already largely vaccinated and are reluctant to work alongside those who aren't.

    In contrast, major companies that rely on low-income blue-collar workers — food manufacturers, warehouses, supermarkets and other store chains — are shying away from mandates for fear of driving away employees and worsening the labor shortages such businesses are facing.

    Tyson Foods, for instance, said about half of its U.S. workforce — 56,000 employees — has received shots after the meat and poultry processor hosted more than 100 vaccination events since February. But the company said it has no plans to impose a mandate to reach the other half.

    Walmart and Amazon, the country's two largest private employers, have also declined to require its hourly workers to get vaccinated, continuing to rely on strategies such as bonuses and onsite access to shots. But in a potentially powerful signal, Walmart said employees at its headquarters will be required to get vaccinated by Oct. 4.

    The biggest precedent so far has come from the federal government, the nation's largest employer. President Joe Biden announced last week that all federal employees and contractors must get vaccinated or put up with weekly testing and lose privileges such as official travel.

    The federal government has said it will cover the costs of the weekly tests. As for other employers, insurance may pay for such testing at some workplaces but not others.


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  • PJNB
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Big crawfish festival in nj just canceled because of the delta variant. Grant it a lot of musicians were coming in from low vax states like Louisiana but it still makes me a tad nervous about shn.  Festival had about 10k people a day.  
    Our dance hall is indoors and our Pavillion stage is covered, semi- indoors with people dancing and touching. 

    Definitely different than an outdoor festival. Fingers crossed man. Go all vaccinated or negative test for entry. Not perfect but will be as close to as safe as it is going to get. 
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Here in NY Cuomo is mandating state workers get the shot.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    Brilliant, just blindingly brilliant, brilliance in all its brilliancy. Now that's what I call leadership. Some might call it "brilliant" leadership.

    Inside the extraordinary effort to save Trump from covid-19

    His illness was more severe than the White House acknowledged at the time. Advisers thought it would alter his response to the pandemic. They were wrong.

    This article is adapted from “Nightmare Scenario: Inside the Trump Administration’s Response to the Pandemic That Changed History,” which was published June 29 by HarperCollins.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar’s phone rang with an urgent request: Could he help someone at the White House obtain an experimental coronavirus treatment, known as a monoclonal antibody?

    If Azar could get the drug, what would the White House need to do to make that happen? Azar thought for a moment. It was Oct. 1, 2020, and the drug was still in clinical trials. The Food and Drug Administration would have to make a “compassionate use” exception for its use since it was not yet available to the public. Only about 10 people so far had used it outside of those trials. Azar said of course he would help.

    Azar wasn’t told who the drug was for but would later connect the dots. The patient was one of President Donald Trump’s closest advisers: Hope Hicks.

    A short time later, FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn received a request from a top White House official for a separate case, this time with even greater urgency: Could he get the FDA to sign off on a compassionate-use authorization for a monoclonal antibody right away? There is a standard process that doctors use to apply to the FDA for unapproved drugs on behalf of patients dealing with life-threatening illnesses who have exhausted all other options, and agency scientists review it. The difference was that most people don’t call the commissioner directly.

    The White House wanted Hahn to say yes within hours. Hahn, who still did not know who the application was for, consulted career officials. The FDA needs to go by the book, the officials insisted. Hahn relayed the message back to the White House. They kept pressing him to effectively cut corners. No, we can’t do that, Hahn told them several times. We’re talking about someone’s life. We have to actually examine the application to make sure we’re doing it safely.

    When Hahn later learned the effort was on behalf of the president, he was stunned. For God’s sake, he thought, it’s the president who’s sick, and you want us to bend the rules? Trump was in the highest-risk category for severe disease from covid-19 — at 74, he rarely exercised and was considered medically obese. He was the type of patient with whom you would want to take every possible precaution. As it did with all compassionate-use applications, the FDA made a decision within 24 hours. Agency officials scrambled to figure out which company’s monoclonal antibody would be most appropriate given the clinical information they had, and selected the one from Regeneron, known simply as Regen-Cov.

    A five-day stretch in October 2020 — from the moment White House officials began an extraordinary effort to get Trump lifesaving drugs to the day the president returned to the White House from the hospital — marked a dramatic turning point in the nation’s flailing coronavirus response. Trump’s brush with severe illness and the prospect of death caught the White House so unprepared that they had not even briefed Vice President Mike Pence’s team on a plan to swear him in if Trump became incapacitated.

    For months, the president had taunted and dodged the virus, flouting safety protocols by holding big rallies and packing the White House with maskless guests. But just one month before the election, the virus that had already killed more than 200,000 Americans had sickened the most powerful person on the planet.

    Trump’s medical advisers hoped his bout with the coronavirus, which was far more serious than acknowledged at the time, would inspire him to take the virus seriously. Perhaps now, they thought, he would encourage Americans to wear masks and put his health and medical officials front and center in the response. Instead, Trump emerged from the experience triumphant and ever more defiant. He urged people not to be afraid of the virus or let it dominate their lives, disregarding that he had had access to health care and treatments unavailable to other Americans.

    Continues but I believe the WaPo's covid coverage is free, although this may not be included


    ‘Nightmare Scenario’ book excerpt: Inside the extraordinary effort to save Trump from covid-19 - The Washington Post

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,107
    Now, quick! Go get your tax payer funded healthcare that the rest of us don't have and the repub party promised would be forthcoming, better, less expensive and BIGGER. Anybody got a kid interning on the Hill and wandering the halls of Congress? Good luck.

    Lindsey Graham tests positive for the coronavirus after meeting senators without masks

    Sen. Lindsey Graham has tested positive for the coronavirus, he said, a development that comes after he recently attended GOP and Senate functions without wearing a mask.

    “I feel like I have a sinus infection and at present time I have mild symptoms,” Graham (R-S.C.) tweeted Monday afternoon.

    Graham, who was vaccinated in December against the coronavirus that can cause the illness covid-19, said he had first started experiencing flu-like symptoms Saturday evening, and saw the House physician Monday morning. He will be quarantining for the next 10 days.

    He was in the Senate as recently as Friday and attended party lunches and other meetings and was seen in hallways not wearing a mask. (Many other senators, including many Democrats, were also not wearing masks.)

    Lindsey Graham tests positive for covid-19, becoming the Senate’s first breakthrough infection - The Washington Post

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    one of my good friends is in the icu in florida. has a bad case of delta variant. his g/f said he has been there for 4 days and will be there minimum 2-3 more weeks. he is a 41 year old otherwise healthy man that chose to not get the vaccine.

    crazy.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    i'm not sure why i even posted that in here. i guess i needed to put it out there and it is not appropriate to do so on social media.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    i'm not sure why i even posted that in here. i guess i needed to put it out there and it is not appropriate to do so on social media.

    Best of luck to your friend. I hope he pulls through and resumes good health, and goes on to encourage others to get vaccinated. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    Where I work starting 8/16 either you’re vaccinated or adhere to testing once a week going forward! 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    edited August 2021
    Graham test positive..
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited August 2021
    Graham test positive..
    Not even a 1% Graham fan but at least he said the vaccine worked and the reason he did not get badly sick. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    edited August 2021
    PJNB said:
    Graham test positive..
    Not even a 1% Graham fan but at least he said the vaccine worked and the reason he did not get badly sick. 
    All true he could of just gone one step further by implori his constituents to go and get the shot..
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,371
    edited August 2021
    PJNB said:
    Graham test positive..
    Not even a 1% Graham fan but at least he said the vaccine worked and the reason he did not get badly sick. 
    All true he could of just gone one step further by implori his constituents to go and get the shot..

    he sorta did....
    Graham, who was vaccinated in December, has long been a proponent of vaccination, saying during a visit this spring to the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston that “the sooner we get everybody vaccinated, the quicker we can get back to normal.”

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  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    First Avenue Productions the parent company of First Avenue in Minneapolis, and owner almost every small to midsize venue in the Twin Cities, today announced proof of full vaccination, or a negative test within 72 hours, to enter their venues effect today.

    I have tickets to see Shooter Jennings this Friday at one of First Ave’s smaller venues (the Fine Line, capacity around 400). Wife and I are fully vaccinated plus had COVID, so we should be good to go, but going to error on the side of caution and eat the tickets. I can hold off on tightly pack quarters with excessively drunk folks for a bit longer.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,576
    First Avenue Productions the parent company of First Avenue in Minneapolis, and owner almost every small to midsize venue in the Twin Cities, today announced proof of full vaccination, or a negative test within 72 hours, to enter their venues effect today.

    I have tickets to see Shooter Jennings this Friday at one of First Ave’s smaller venues (the Fine Line, capacity around 400). Wife and I are fully vaccinated plus had COVID, so we should be good to go, but going to error on the side of caution and eat the tickets. I can hold off on tightly pack quarters with excessively drunk folks for a bit longer.
    Can’t fault you for that! 
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    First Avenue Productions the parent company of First Avenue in Minneapolis, and owner almost every small to midsize venue in the Twin Cities, today announced proof of full vaccination, or a negative test within 72 hours, to enter their venues effect today.

    I have tickets to see Shooter Jennings this Friday at one of First Ave’s smaller venues (the Fine Line, capacity around 400). Wife and I are fully vaccinated plus had COVID, so we should be good to go, but going to error on the side of caution and eat the tickets. I can hold off on tightly pack quarters with excessively drunk folks for a bit longer.
    Wise decision
  • Parksy
    Parksy Posts: 1,849
    mickeyrat said:
    I have no problem putting a piece of cloth over my face if it’s in the interest of protecting the immune compromised or those who want but can’t get a vaccine, because it’s a minor inconvenience at best. 

    My goodness, imagine if some of you came of age during WWII or Vietnam & got drafted? What we’re being asked to do for our country right now doesn’t even compare. 

    Get some perspective in your lives. 

    he speaks directly to your point.


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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    I’ve been saying to do this from the beginning

    Sure, you can’t “force” someone to get the vaccine

    But make life difficult for the unvaccinated and people will come around 

    Wouldn’t surprise me if airlines and other privately owned entities follow suit soon

    There won’t be another lockdown, but restrictions for the unvaccinated are coming and coming fast 


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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,217
    I’ve been saying to do this from the beginning

    Sure, you can’t “force” someone to get the vaccine

    But make life difficult for the unvaccinated and people will come around 

    Wouldn’t surprise me if airlines and other privately owned entities follow suit soon

    There won’t be another lockdown, but restrictions for the unvaccinated are coming and coming fast 


    Meh… won’t do much, hope I’m wrong. Unfortunately it’s easier to get a fake vaccine card than a bag of chips here. 
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