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I never deemed anyone a racist "by proxy". if someone else did, talk to them.PJPOWER said:
No, I mostly made fun of Trump if you look back. If I ever did defend Trump’s policy, I’m pretty sure I would have been deemed a racist by proxy, though. Does Biden and his supporters get a pass for his support of racist policies? I guess I missed that memo.HughFreakingDillon said:dude, didn't you spend a lot of trump's first term defending him, or saying you liked some of his policies at the very least, and you are calling out Biden as being a lifelong racist?
I personally don't believe that Biden is racist. I think he just sees the writing on the wall.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
PJP, I'm not understanding how you see this as a racism issue. True, a lot of us honky crackers smoke weed, but so do many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Islanders. Maybe even some Inuit (when they can get it. Doesn't grow well in tundra.)
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That’s quite the cop out in my opinion. They push gun control measures that they know will fail, so I don’t think that’s the story. I think he is just one of those old farts that believes “marijuana is bad”. He sure used it on his platform to get elected, though. Hell, he could even enact some executive orders to decriminalize it at the very least…The marijuana prohibition has led to countless black incarcerations and deaths and you would think a non-racist president would push against it a little bit, especially in the current environment with police racism in the spotlight. It is a huge “systematic racism” related policy still being heavily utilized in a large portion of the country to put black people in jail.HughFreakingDillon said:
or maybe he knows it will never pass the senate? or might not even get out of the house?PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
No surprise, though, he is known for supporting some pretty racist policies throughout his career in politics.
I know. Obama was so fucking racist.
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Federal marijuana legalization is not the topic you want to run on going into the mid-terms. Let more states do it on their own and when you reach critical mass, that would be the time to loosen banking restrictions and criminal penalties. Might need furhter culling of the herd to get there but it'll get there. The feds are always behind the times. President Biden is playing smart politics.HughFreakingDillon said:
I never deemed anyone a racist "by proxy". if someone else did, talk to them.PJPOWER said:
No, I mostly made fun of Trump if you look back. If I ever did defend Trump’s policy, I’m pretty sure I would have been deemed a racist by proxy, though. Does Biden and his supporters get a pass for his support of racist policies? I guess I missed that memo.HughFreakingDillon said:dude, didn't you spend a lot of trump's first term defending him, or saying you liked some of his policies at the very least, and you are calling out Biden as being a lifelong racist?
I personally don't believe that Biden is racist. I think he just sees the writing on the wall.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That’s what I’m saying. Blacks and Hispanics have disproportionately been targeted and prosecuted for marijuana related crimes since prohibition was enacted. If you don’t see that as “systematic racism”, then what is? It even calls it a racist policy in the article you quoted me on.brianlux said:PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
PJP, I'm not understanding how you see this as a racism issue. True, a lot of us honky crackers smoke weed, but so do many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Islanders. Maybe even some Inuit (when they can get it. Doesn't grow well in tundra.)Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
we all know that. but it's a losing issue for Biden, at least at this point, as H2M pointed out. I don't see it happening any time soon at the federal level. plus, he's only 100 days into his term. did you really expect him to enact all his policies in the first 3 months and ride out the next 3 1/2 years and put a flag on his desk that says "mission accomplished"?PJPOWER said:
That’s what I’m saying. Blacks and Hispanics gave disproportionately been targeted and prosecuted for marijuana related crimes since prohibition was enacted. If you don’t see that as “systematic racism”, then what is? It even calls it a racist policy in the article you quoted me on.brianlux said:PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
PJP, I'm not understanding how you see this as a racism issue. True, a lot of us honky crackers smoke weed, but so do many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Islanders. Maybe even some Inuit (when they can get it. Doesn't grow well in tundra.)Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
??? Where did that even come from? Did Obama support the racist crime bills in the 90s that led to black people getting arrested at a vastly higher rate than non-black people? Biden’s political career extends a lot further back than Obama’s.mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
That’s quite the cop out in my opinion. They push gun control measures that they know will fail, so I don’t think that’s the story. I think he is just one of those old farts that believes “marijuana is bad”. He sure used it on his platform to get elected, though. Hell, he could even enact some executive orders to decriminalize it at the very least…The marijuana prohibition has led to countless black incarcerations and deaths and you would think a non-racist president would push against it a little bit, especially in the current environment with police racism in the spotlight. It is a huge “systematic racism” related policy still being heavily utilized in a large portion of the country to put black people in jail.HughFreakingDillon said:
or maybe he knows it will never pass the senate? or might not even get out of the house?PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
No surprise, though, he is known for supporting some pretty racist policies throughout his career in politics.
I know. Obama was so fucking racist.0 -
I don’t read what H2M posts anymore, but are you saying that if he does not try to legalize it after 3.5 years, then he can be called a racist? When is the appropriate time?HughFreakingDillon said:
we all know that. but it's a losing issue for Biden, at least at this point, as H2M pointed out. I don't see it happening any time soon at the federal level. plus, he's only 100 days into his term. did you really expect him to enact all his policies in the first 3 months and ride out the next 3 1/2 years and put a flag on his desk that says "mission accomplished"?PJPOWER said:
That’s what I’m saying. Blacks and Hispanics gave disproportionately been targeted and prosecuted for marijuana related crimes since prohibition was enacted. If you don’t see that as “systematic racism”, then what is? It even calls it a racist policy in the article you quoted me on.brianlux said:PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
PJP, I'm not understanding how you see this as a racism issue. True, a lot of us honky crackers smoke weed, but so do many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Islanders. Maybe even some Inuit (when they can get it. Doesn't grow well in tundra.)0 -
nope.PJPOWER said:
I don’t read what H2M posts anymore, but are you saying that if he does not try to legalize it after 3.5 years, then he can be called a racist? When is the appropriate time?HughFreakingDillon said:
we all know that. but it's a losing issue for Biden, at least at this point, as H2M pointed out. I don't see it happening any time soon at the federal level. plus, he's only 100 days into his term. did you really expect him to enact all his policies in the first 3 months and ride out the next 3 1/2 years and put a flag on his desk that says "mission accomplished"?PJPOWER said:
That’s what I’m saying. Blacks and Hispanics gave disproportionately been targeted and prosecuted for marijuana related crimes since prohibition was enacted. If you don’t see that as “systematic racism”, then what is? It even calls it a racist policy in the article you quoted me on.brianlux said:PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
PJP, I'm not understanding how you see this as a racism issue. True, a lot of us honky crackers smoke weed, but so do many Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and Islanders. Maybe even some Inuit (when they can get it. Doesn't grow well in tundra.)Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
the point is, at least how I'm taking it, is that if you call Biden a racist for not pushing for legislation to decriminalize weed, then you'd also have to call Obama a racist for the same reason.PJPOWER said:
??? Where did that even come from? Did Obama support the racist crime bills in the 90s that led to black people getting arrested at a vastly higher rate than non-black people? Biden’s political career extends a lot further back than Obama’s.mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
That’s quite the cop out in my opinion. They push gun control measures that they know will fail, so I don’t think that’s the story. I think he is just one of those old farts that believes “marijuana is bad”. He sure used it on his platform to get elected, though. Hell, he could even enact some executive orders to decriminalize it at the very least…The marijuana prohibition has led to countless black incarcerations and deaths and you would think a non-racist president would push against it a little bit, especially in the current environment with police racism in the spotlight. It is a huge “systematic racism” related policy still being heavily utilized in a large portion of the country to put black people in jail.HughFreakingDillon said:
or maybe he knows it will never pass the senate? or might not even get out of the house?PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
No surprise, though, he is known for supporting some pretty racist policies throughout his career in politics.
I know. Obama was so fucking racist.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.0 -
yes, he has. that was a long time ago and I believe he has proven himself changed.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Baloney.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.www.myspace.com0 -
I have a hard time calling a black person a racist, but if he recognized the policy as being rooted in racism and ignored it, then he is at least dismissive of systematic racism.HughFreakingDillon said:
the point is, at least how I'm taking it, is that if you call Biden a racist for not pushing for legislation to decriminalize weed, then you'd also have to call Obama a racist for the same reason.PJPOWER said:
??? Where did that even come from? Did Obama support the racist crime bills in the 90s that led to black people getting arrested at a vastly higher rate than non-black people? Biden’s political career extends a lot further back than Obama’s.mickeyrat said:PJPOWER said:
That’s quite the cop out in my opinion. They push gun control measures that they know will fail, so I don’t think that’s the story. I think he is just one of those old farts that believes “marijuana is bad”. He sure used it on his platform to get elected, though. Hell, he could even enact some executive orders to decriminalize it at the very least…The marijuana prohibition has led to countless black incarcerations and deaths and you would think a non-racist president would push against it a little bit, especially in the current environment with police racism in the spotlight. It is a huge “systematic racism” related policy still being heavily utilized in a large portion of the country to put black people in jail.HughFreakingDillon said:
or maybe he knows it will never pass the senate? or might not even get out of the house?PJPOWER said:It’s not Biden’s stuttering that annoys me, it’s his racism:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2021/04/30/chuck-schumers-marijuana-legalization-plan-has-a-joe-biden-problem/
No surprise, though, he is known for supporting some pretty racist policies throughout his career in politics.
I know. Obama was so fucking racist.0 -
Salami…?The Juggler said:
Baloney.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.0 -
Lol. He's not a racist. This is ridiculous. Nobody's picking up what you're putting down, corn pop. Beat it.PJPOWER said:
Salami…?The Juggler said:
Baloney.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.www.myspace.com0 -
Proven himself changed how? By fighting to end systematic racism? Give me some examples over his many years in politics where he has worked to end racial discrimination.HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, he has. that was a long time ago and I believe he has proven himself changed.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.There are definitely examples to the contrary:“In 2007 Biden showed his tolerance when he called Barack Obama an “articulate guy.” Biden was tolerant because every time that his role in the 1994 crime bill that devastated Black communities arose during the Democratic debates this year, he stomped his foot and declared that he was not a racist. Instead, he contended, he should be congratulated for working across the aisle—as if partnering with retrograde neo-confederates somehow proved him a racial progressive. Biden showed he was tolerant because he had the liberal audacity to school Black television personality Charlamagne tha God on the nature of Blackness. I thought it was bullshit. I was not interested in being tolerated that way. To my mind, there was Black blood on Biden’s hands”Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Great retort…You beat it, frosted flake. Maybe he isn’t obviously racist, but what has he done to end racist policies over his long political career? He has done a lot to the contrary.The Juggler said:
Lol. He's not a racist. This is ridiculous. Nobody's picking up what you're putting down, corn pop. Beat it.PJPOWER said:
Salami…?The Juggler said:
Baloney.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.
Why should he be forgiven for supporting policies that got a lot of black people killed? Because he beat Trump? He still has a lot of blood of black people on his hands and still has a lot of ground to make up in my opinion.Post edited by PJPOWER on0 -
Haha. Well here's the dumb argument of the day. The question is why can't any of these Trumpists make arguments that are intellectually honest?
The fact that Trump did nothing to change federal scheduling or the legalize it, is not even on the radar of his racist history and policies. If I had to name 10 things that make trump a racist, not legalizing would be about 130.0 -
No offense, but if you think Donald Trump is not a racist while Joe Biden is.....I cannot possibly have this conversation with you.PJPOWER said:
Great retort…You beat it, frosted flake. Maybe he isn’t obviously racist, but what has he done to end racist policies over his long political career? He has done a lot to the contrary.The Juggler said:
Lol. He's not a racist. This is ridiculous. Nobody's picking up what you're putting down, corn pop. Beat it.PJPOWER said:
Salami…?The Juggler said:
Baloney.PJPOWER said:
I am not a member of Trump’s base, but do believe that Biden has supported racist policies in the past and his “silence is violence” regarding current policies rooted in racism. He may not be your run of the mill n-word spouting racist, but he does not seem to be too concerned about systematic racism either, so either he does not care about it or he is overtly racist by letting these policies continue over his personal political concerns.The Juggler said:Lol....republicans tried to label him a racist and a bunch of other things during the campaign. The majority of the country knows that is not who Biden is and that is why those attacks never stick to him with anyone who is not a member of the Trump base.
Why should he be forgiven for supporting policies that got a lot of black people killed? Because he beat Trump? He still has a lot of blood of black people on his hands and still has a lot of ground to make up in my opinion.
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