When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
lol
man i haven't seen a post get this dunked on in a while.
reminds me of the constant dunking on trump's tweets lol
Well I guess my only response to this would be, LETS GO BRANDON!
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
You're correct, there are Democrats who refuse. But it is R govs and politicians that have made anti-vax, anti-mask an actual platform. That is completely different than some guy you know that votes D but refuse the vaccine.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
how did I pivot to governors? you claimed this was biden's fault; I disagreed and said it falls quite heavily on the hands of R governors for fighting his mandates to keep people safe. it's the same topic. your "savior" democrat had nothing to do with what we were talking about.
yes, there have been hypocritical D governors. gavin newsom probably the most famous one (and he apologized, something R governors generally don't do). I don't dispute that.
show me an R governor that makes rules that may inconvenience him/herself for the good of society and I'll show you a hypocrite who doesn't follow it.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
It's frustrating to see the little to no criticism towards Biden. Facepalm all you want, facts are facts.
Instead of the disingenuous deflecting, how about attempting to answer Russell's question of what you think Biden should be doing differently?
Near as I can tell, the way to mitigate the spread prior to vaccines was to mask up and socially distance ourselves and republicans largely objected to that.
Now that there are vaccines out, the way to end the virus is to...you know...get the vaccine but republicans are largely against that as only 56% of them are vaccinated verses 92% of democrats. A lot of republicans have even turned to horse dewormer drugs, among other things, as an alternative.
If republicans would have just put on their big boy pants and wore a mask and the gotten the vaccine as soon as they were able to, this would likely be behind us by now .
So what should Biden be doing differently? How do you get through to these people who seem to not want to accept reality?
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
I certainly don't think deaths under Trump would have been zero and no rational person would think such a thing. The issue was Trump's constant, consistent and ongoing downplaying of the pandemic. His refusal to consistently support his health team's social health recommendations and his sidelining of the health officials throughout 2020. The question is, had Trump supported and was aligned with his public health officials, could we have avoided having the death toll that we had? I think the number would have been lower had he led his base. He didn't. The base led him as always.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVIDthan Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
That ain't true.
The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.
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When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
Maybe someone can explain why a private school in Flo Rida, a repub lead state, is requiring a 30 day stay at home time out for those students who get vaccinated after each vaccine? What's the (ir)rationale? buh, buh, buh Joe!
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough? I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough? I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Yeah who gives a shit about a 9 second out of context clip is my point. The only reason things like that go viral with the people on the right is their argument is weak. They ignore the fact that the science says masking up works. They ignore the fact that vaccines work. Unfortunately we live in a dumbed down society where a nine second, out of context, clip is much easier for people to digest than the things that actually matter .
Anyway.....I'd still like JB to answer the question of what Biden needs to be doing differently on this subject. I am not holding my breath for an answer though...
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough? I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Go back to the first comment. It wasn't about the video. That was merely a deflection.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVIDthan Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
That ain't true.
The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.
In my view, you can't compare year 1 to year 2 for a ton of reasons. You can compare the actions and seriousness shown by public officials. That's were I draw a distinction.
When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVIDthan Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
That ain't true.
The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.
In my view, you can't compare year 1 to year 2 for a ton of reasons. You can compare the actions and seriousness shown by public officials. That's were I draw a distinction.
I fully agree. I was just throwing two irrefutable reasons out there. An apple-to-apple comparison just isn't feasible.
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When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules. I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough? I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Yeah who gives a shit about a 9 second out of context clip is my point. The only reason things like that go viral with the people on the right is their argument is weak. They ignore the fact that the science says masking up works. They ignore the fact that vaccines work. Unfortunately we live in a dumbed down society where a nine second, out of context, clip is much easier for people to digest than the things that actually matter .
Anyway.....I'd still like JB to answer the question of what Biden needs to be doing differently on this subject. I am not holding my breath for an answer though...
they all turn into toddlers who say "but if he doesn't have to, why do I?". just baffling. I just saw pictures of an event at my local art gallery with several prominent people. SEVERAL of them were not masked, and it was indoors.
am I going to whine about it and stomp my feet and say "then I'm not going to!". No, I'm going to be a fucking adult and do what's right, regardless of the occasional failings of some people in power.
as mace also pointed out, we all fuck up occasionally. sure, sometimes I forget to put my mask on to go from my cubicle to the printer. big deal. I remember most of the time.
If a democrat doesn't wear a seatbelt, are people going to stop wearing their seatbelts? jesus. this is just so fucking dumb.
they take these stupid gotchas as some verification of their beliefs that all this shit is fake. because, sure, making the masses wear masks to the mall is going to bring humanity to its knees where we're all enslaved by the big bad government. it's all a big ruse.
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When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
no you don't...
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When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.
"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the
capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the
governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.
nice pivot.
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.
Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
I certainly don't think deaths under Trump would have been zero and no rational person would think such a thing. The issue was Trump's constant, consistent and ongoing downplaying of the pandemic. His refusal to consistently support his health team's social health recommendations and his sidelining of the health officials throughout 2020. The question is, had Trump supported and was aligned with his public health officials, could we have avoided having the death toll that we had? I think the number would have been lower had he led his base. He didn't. The base led him as always.
^^^^^This exactly
That's why tRump gets the blame. Plus the stupid fucker got vaccinated and refused to do PSAs to help spread the word. He has mentioned that he recommends people get vaccinated and received boos at his own stupid rallies so I will give him a small amount of credit.
The only reason any of those repubs admit to getting vaxxed is because internally they know they are losing some elderly vote by acting so stupid.
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Yet another disingenuous argument.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/355073/vaccinated-delta-surge-fda-decision.aspx
-EV 8/14/93
yes, there have been hypocritical D governors. gavin newsom probably the most famous one (and he apologized, something R governors generally don't do). I don't dispute that.
show me an R governor that makes rules that may inconvenience him/herself for the good of society and I'll show you a hypocrite who doesn't follow it.
-EV 8/14/93
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
Near as I can tell, the way to mitigate the spread prior to vaccines was to mask up and socially distance ourselves and republicans largely objected to that.
Now that there are vaccines out, the way to end the virus is to...you know...get the vaccine but republicans are largely against that as only 56% of them are vaccinated verses 92% of democrats. A lot of republicans have even turned to horse dewormer drugs, among other things, as an alternative.
If republicans would have just put on their big boy pants and wore a mask and the gotten the vaccine as soon as they were able to, this would likely be behind us by now .
So what should Biden be doing differently? How do you get through to these people who seem to not want to accept reality?
The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.
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I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
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I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Anyway.....I'd still like JB to answer the question of what Biden needs to be doing differently on this subject. I am not holding my breath for an answer though...
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am I going to whine about it and stomp my feet and say "then I'm not going to!". No, I'm going to be a fucking adult and do what's right, regardless of the occasional failings of some people in power.
as mace also pointed out, we all fuck up occasionally. sure, sometimes I forget to put my mask on to go from my cubicle to the printer. big deal. I remember most of the time.
If a democrat doesn't wear a seatbelt, are people going to stop wearing their seatbelts? jesus. this is just so fucking dumb.
they take these stupid gotchas as some verification of their beliefs that all this shit is fake. because, sure, making the masses wear masks to the mall is going to bring humanity to its knees where we're all enslaved by the big bad government. it's all a big ruse.
-EV 8/14/93
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That's why tRump gets the blame. Plus the stupid fucker got vaccinated and refused to do PSAs to help spread the word. He has mentioned that he recommends people get vaccinated and received boos at his own stupid rallies so I will give him a small amount of credit.
The only reason any of those repubs admit to getting vaxxed is because internally they know they are losing some elderly vote by acting so stupid.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2