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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    edited February 2021
    PJNB said:
    If I asked my kid if he wanted to go to school pre covid he would have said no. If we are polling them are we taking that into account where a lot of kids just don't want to go to school unless they are forced? That muddies the results for sure. 


    I would have thought the same thing pre-covid. My teaching experience this year has shattered almost every assumption I've held about kids and learning for over two decades.

    If it's true that a lot kids wouldn't come unless forced, then I wouldn't have an almost perfect attendance rate in a 100% virtual environment with my at-risk population. Almost all of my students have no adult supervision during the day (7th grade). If they didn’t want to come, they wouldn't sign in, but they are. Some of them are babysitting with their younger siblings sitting on their lap during class. Some are hanging out with their friends in each other's houses and helping each other/keeping company [edit: probably giving each other covid]. One signed in on her phone from a hammock in some mountain village in El Salvador when she visited family for a few weeks [edit: probably bringing back covid]. The only kid I can tell is being forced is the spoiled white boy who regularly throws tantrums on the kitchen floor with his mom in the background. 

    What my school has discovered in studying the attendance data is that kids are picking and choosing their classes. There are patterns for certain students and certain teachers. I feel blessed that my class is one of the consistently well-attended ones, and I feel pretty confident in my polling. I didn’t ask "do you want to go back to school?" I asked "should the school board vote to reopen on April 6 with the proposed hybrid concurrent plan?" which they needed explaining because none of the adults even talked to them about what that means. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    edited February 2021
    So, the government now decided that if you have a café or restaurant in a galleria without "it's own door" or whatever that only a company of one (1) person is allowed to eat there. NO ONE GOES INTO A FUCKING RESTAURANT IN A GALLERI  -- WHETHER TO EAT WHEN SHOPPING IT OR GOING THERE TO EAT LUNCH DURING WORK HOURS -- AND EATS BY THEMSELVES.

    SWEDEN ISN'T FILLED WITH 10 MILLION STEVEN GLANSBERGS.



    So my mom, 62 years old, has been fired. And will never get another job. And the restaurant is ready to shut down.

    Sweden sucks. Why can't we just New Zealand this pandemic like normal countries.
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, the government now decided that if you have a café or restaurant in a galleria without "it's own door" or whatever that only a company of one (1) person is allowed to eat there. NO ONE GOES INTO A FUCKING RESTAURANT IN A GALLERI  -- WHETHER TO EAT WHEN SHOPPING IT OR GOING THERE TO EAT LUNCH DURING WORK HOURS -- AND EATS BY THEMSELVES.

    SWEDEN ISN'T FILLED WITH 10 MILLION STEVEN GLANSBERGS.



    So my mom, 62 years old, has been fired. And will never get another job. And the restaurant is ready to shut down.

    Sweden sucks. Why can't we just New Zealand this pandemic like normal countries.
    Really sorry to hear that.  Stories like this are why I'm all for distancing, wearing a mask, getting vaccinated and taking precautions, but strongly against the lock downs and the restrictions that force so many thousands of businesses and families to be unable to survive
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  • cincybearcat
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    Weston1283 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, the government now decided that if you have a café or restaurant in a galleria without "it's own door" or whatever that only a company of one (1) person is allowed to eat there. NO ONE GOES INTO A FUCKING RESTAURANT IN A GALLERI  -- WHETHER TO EAT WHEN SHOPPING IT OR GOING THERE TO EAT LUNCH DURING WORK HOURS -- AND EATS BY THEMSELVES.

    SWEDEN ISN'T FILLED WITH 10 MILLION STEVEN GLANSBERGS.



    So my mom, 62 years old, has been fired. And will never get another job. And the restaurant is ready to shut down.

    Sweden sucks. Why can't we just New Zealand this pandemic like normal countries.
    Really sorry to hear that.  Stories like this are why I'm all for distancing, wearing a mask, getting vaccinated and taking precautions, but strongly against the lock downs and the restrictions that force so many thousands of businesses and families to be unable to survive
    Don’t have enough data to know. But it seems the restrictions are more than has been proven very effective. 

    Sweden, like the US, was late to the game of some pretty easy measures. Hold your leaders accountable.
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  • oftenreading
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    Johnson & Johnson intends to study their covid vaccine in children, initially between the ages of 12 to 18 and then expanding to study younger children and infants. Study of the vaccine in pregnant women is also planned. 

    The J&J vaccine is not an mRNA vaccine, but rather an older technology adenovirus carrier vaccine, which is already in use for some vaccines that have been tested in children and infants.

    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/28/world/covid-19-coronavirus
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
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  • hedonist
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
    Some folks tried that and died.

    Some of their friends and families too.

    Even strangers. 
  • F Me In The Brain
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    Because being a man beats a virus.

    If you don't, you're a girl.



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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Because being a man beats a virus.

    If you don't, you're a girl.



    :lol:




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  • cincybearcat
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
    1) Masks don’t just make people feel better. If that’s all you think they do you are ignoring the data or just being argumentative.

    2) My daughter is 13 and could kick your sexist pansy ass tough guy. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
    What's stopping you?
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Drinking and posting.

    Certainly have been there!
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  • Spunkie
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    If some variants are more transmissible, I wonder when they will stop reporting on "affected rows" on flights with covid?
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  • Lerxst1992
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    what dreams said:
    Hobbes said:
    Weston1283 said:
    South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

    https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/
    As SC maintains the lead for cases per capita. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus/south-carolinas-governor-rolls-back-restrictions-but-cases-away-from-the-coast-remain-stubbornly-high
    Yeah, I wouldn't use SC as an example. I used to live there and have many best friends there, in Charleston. Even the reasonable ones among them are going to clubs maskless and having backyard parties galore. The food and beverage industry especially has been crushed with cases. Hospitality is a big part of their culture in general and their biggest economic driver. Not having parties for a year hasn't really been a thing they could do successfully. 

    Use NYC as an example. We are 12th on that list. NYS cases are down barely 50% from the January peak while the country is down over 70%. NYS is among the worst states in the country, which should be puzzling since most New Yorkers respect science and masks are worn by almost all. 

    Yes it is believed the worst variant of all is in NY. What else is different here? NYC was the first big city to have widespread school openings, and in the near suburbs where I am, schools have been open for the entire school year, and now most schools are at nearly 100% building capacity 4 days a week.

    yet unlike the Trump years, there is no media check here. Outside of the news last week about this new variant and nursing homes, the media never mentions that Cuomo and the state have done a horrible job on covid safety since September. The state  rewrites the rules here to keep schools open, and cases are even starting to tick up this week. NY is middle of the pack in vaccine rollout, yet getting an appointment here is almost always impossible to find.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,937
    edited March 2021
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.

    Why don’t you keep quiet and turn on the lights and the heat. If it works. And read my comment earlier about schools in NY. Schools here have been open far longer than states that can’t figure out winter will hit them every ten years.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
    From what I can tell, the daisiest bunch of daisies are the "I just can't wear a mask; it's uncomfortable" crowd.  I mean, it is uncomfortable, but what kind of a wussy can't deal with discomfort as a way to 1) help their fellow humans and 2) help move us closer to where we can actually do things?

    Early on I envisioned that after we had our "flatten the curve"  period that we'd get to start doing some stuff and the price folks would pay would be wearing masks. Man, did I underestimate the wussiness of my fellow Americans.
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  • Mikemzl91
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    Most antimaskers seem to walk around with this "say something" type attitude. That's gotta be a heavy load to bear, gotta mess with your psyche.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    edited March 2021
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.

    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondon
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    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    edited March 2021
    Weston1283 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    So, the government now decided that if you have a café or restaurant in a galleria without "it's own door" or whatever that only a company of one (1) person is allowed to eat there. NO ONE GOES INTO A FUCKING RESTAURANT IN A GALLERI  -- WHETHER TO EAT WHEN SHOPPING IT OR GOING THERE TO EAT LUNCH DURING WORK HOURS -- AND EATS BY THEMSELVES.

    SWEDEN ISN'T FILLED WITH 10 MILLION STEVEN GLANSBERGS.



    So my mom, 62 years old, has been fired. And will never get another job. And the restaurant is ready to shut down.

    Sweden sucks. Why can't we just New Zealand this pandemic like normal countries.
    Really sorry to hear that.  Stories like this are why I'm all for distancing, wearing a mask, getting vaccinated and taking precautions, but strongly against the lock downs and the restrictions that force so many thousands of businesses and families to be unable to survive
    I am not against restrictions that are "needed".

    But saying "You are free to have open, but you can only serve people coming in alone and sitting by themsleves" is the same as saying "we do not allow you to keep open" because de facto no one goes and eats alone. 

    While other places (even resturants outside of Gallerias/malls) do not have such restrictions, or even close to them.

    So it's just fucked. And my mom has to be let go because of the fuckiness.
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