The coronavirus

dankind

The "two weeks to flatten the curve" failure that ignoramuses keep crying over never fucking happened. The US never collectively participated in such a thing. Yes, we were advised to, but it didn't happen.

Sure, I've been advised to do things and ignored that advice to my own detriment. What I've never done is blamed the advice given that I failed to take, especially when there's widespread evidence of folks following that advice to great success. That's some pretzel logic, right there.

elvistheking44

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

lastexitlondon

Masks . Yes
Quarantine  14 days ideal
6 feet plus apart.
Its all quite simple  and we have lived a year and learned

oftenreading

lastexitlondon said:

oftenreading said:

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

Its not a gamble based on our data. Its a lifesaver and I'm glad we took that chance to find out.

It is still a gamble in some respects, Rob, even though in some respects  it has worked out positively so far. The data is preliminary and hasn’t been peer reviewed or replicated, and there is some contradictory data from other jurisdictions showing lower than expected protection with the delay in second dose. It’s such a fluid situation that what seems the right thing today could be disastrous over time. But in any event we’re doing it, so fingers crossed. 

oftenreading

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 

tbergs

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Earth is flat
Earth is center of the universe
There are only 9 planets
There are genetic differences between races
MAGA
On and on...

elvistheking44

oftenreading said:

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 

Is everyone prepared to live in their bubble as long as the data keeps changing? It’s a virus it will forever change. How long are you willing to stay home? It’s been 1 year.......2, 5, 10 years.....serious questions. 

elvistheking44

tbergs said:

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Earth is flat
Earth is center of the universe
There are only 9 planets
There are genetic differences between races
MAGA
On and on...

MAGA?

tbergs

elvistheking44 said:

tbergs said:

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Earth is flat
Earth is center of the universe
There are only 9 planets
There are genetic differences between races
MAGA
On and on...

MAGA?

I figured that was disproven by now as well, no?

static111

elvistheking44 said:

oftenreading said:

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 

Is everyone prepared to live in their bubble as long as the data keeps changing? It’s a virus it will forever change. How long are you willing to stay home? It’s been 1 year.......2, 5, 10 years.....serious questions. 

One more year tops

lastexitlondon

As long as it takes 

Weston1283

This isn't attacking anyone, everyone is free to do whatever they wish with their own lives and I respect it
But this is what I gather just from speaking with all of my different social and work circles

There are about 25% of those who have been out of the bubble since April of 2020 and are already mentally back to a maskless, normal society

Theres another 65% (which I fall into) that feel like once vaccinated, they've done all they can for themselves (the older folks) and the younger folks have done what they can mainly to help the older folks, and will be willing to go back to normal once vaccines are readily available.  Just an example, My own grandparents who wouldn't let anyone come visit them (rightfully so) were fortunately able to get fully vaccinated.  They now say "we got the vaccine, you guys got the vaccine, if were are going to get this virus then we are just going to get it at this point" and now want us to come and visit them again.  I really feel that most people feel this way.

And then I think there will be about 10% of those who will continue to stay home, get groceries online, not go out to eat, etc until this thing is either gone (which it will never be completely gone) or the number of cases is incredibly low, even after a vaccine is readily and easily available to everyone in their country.  

Just the vibes I get as someone who connects and speaks to people of all ages regarding the virus pretty frequently

F Me In The Brain

Weston1283 said:

This isn't attacking anyone, everyone is free to do whatever they wish with their own lives and I respect it
But this is what I gather just from speaking with all of my different social and work circles

There are about 25% of those who have been out of the bubble since April of 2020 and are already mentally back to a maskless, normal society

Theres another 65% (which I fall into) that feel like once vaccinated, they've done all they can for themselves (the older folks) and the younger folks have done what they can mainly to help the older folks, and will be willing to go back to normal once vaccines are readily available.  Just an example, My own grandparents who wouldn't let anyone come visit them (rightfully so) were fortunately able to get fully vaccinated.  They now say "we got the vaccine, you guys got the vaccine, if were are going to get this virus then we are just going to get it at this point" and now want us to come and visit them again.  I really feel that most people feel this way.

And then I think there will be about 10% of those who will continue to stay home, get groceries online, not go out to eat, etc until this thing is either gone (which it will never be completely gone) or the number of cases is incredibly low, even after a vaccine is readily and easily available to everyone in their country.  

Just the vibes I get as someone who connects and speaks to people of all ages regarding the virus pretty frequently

The 25% is much higher, I feel, although I think your breakdowns look good. 

Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.

Thanks!

tbergs

Well, things are going to going especially partisan again as we see "red" states lift mandates and "blue" states maintain masks and limit gatherings. Texas is all in.

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-lifts-mask-mandate-opens-texas-100-percent

gvn2fly1421

elvistheking44 said:

0 masks
1 mask
2 masks
14 day quarantine 
10 day quarantine 
7 day quarantine 
10 feet apart
6 feet apart
On and on....

Brotato, haven't you heard...  The goalposts move man!  Science is evolving...  Follow the science...  You know, the science that says if I am born with a penis then I can compete in women's sports...  Science!!!

Sorry, would chat more but the three masks I have been wearing, because if two good then three better, are starting to give me a headache...

gvn2fly1421

F Me In The Brain said:

Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.

Thanks!

Cry me a freakin river!

gvn2fly1421

tbergs said:

Well, things are going to going especially partisan again as we see "red" states lift mandates and "blue" states maintain masks and limit gatherings. Texas is all in.

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-lifts-mask-mandate-opens-texas-100-percent

As I have said, it has always been about the political science...  Don't ever think it was about anything else.

F Me In The Brain

gvn2fly1421 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.

Thanks!

Cry me a freakin river!

🤡

gvn2fly1421

F Me In The Brain said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.

Thanks!

Cry me a freakin river!

🤡

Looks like the troll got another bite...  Keep blaming everyone else but yourself, you single mask wearer you!  

F Me In The Brain

gvn2fly1421 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

gvn2fly1421 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.

Thanks!

Cry me a freakin river!

🤡

Looks like the troll got another bite...  Keep blaming everyone else but yourself, you single mask wearer you!  

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