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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    edited March 2021
    The "two weeks to flatten the curve" failure that ignoramuses keep crying over never fucking happened. The US never collectively participated in such a thing. Yes, we were advised to, but it didn't happen.

    Sure, I've been advised to do things and ignored that advice to my own detriment. What I've never done is blamed the advice given that I failed to take, especially when there's widespread evidence of folks following that advice to great success. That's some pretzel logic, right there.
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    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    0 masks
    1 mask
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    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    Masks . Yes
    Quarantine  14 days ideal
    6 feet plus apart.
    Its all quite simple  and we have lived a year and learned


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

    I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 
    Its not a gamble based on our data. Its a lifesaver and I'm glad we took that chance to find out.
    It is still a gamble in some respects, Rob, even though in some respects  it has worked out positively so far. The data is preliminary and hasn’t been peer reviewed or replicated, and there is some contradictory data from other jurisdictions showing lower than expected protection with the delay in second dose. It’s such a fluid situation that what seems the right thing today could be disastrous over time. But in any event we’re doing it, so fingers crossed. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    0 masks
    1 mask
    2 masks
    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    0 masks
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    10 feet apart
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    On and on....
    Earth is flat
    Earth is center of the universe
    There are only 9 planets
    There are genetic differences between races
    MAGA
    On and on...




    It's a hopeless situation...
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    0 masks
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    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 
    Is everyone prepared to live in their bubble as long as the data keeps changing? It’s a virus it will forever change. How long are you willing to stay home? It’s been 1 year.......2, 5, 10 years.....serious questions. 
  • elvistheking44
    elvistheking44 Posts: 4,540
    tbergs said:
    0 masks
    1 mask
    2 masks
    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Earth is flat
    Earth is center of the universe
    There are only 9 planets
    There are genetic differences between races
    MAGA
    On and on...




    MAGA?
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    tbergs said:
    0 masks
    1 mask
    2 masks
    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Earth is flat
    Earth is center of the universe
    There are only 9 planets
    There are genetic differences between races
    MAGA
    On and on...




    MAGA?
    I figured that was disproven by now as well, no?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,062
    0 masks
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    14 day quarantine 
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    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Refusing to learn from data and experience is not quite as good a look as you seem to think it is 
    Is everyone prepared to live in their bubble as long as the data keeps changing? It’s a virus it will forever change. How long are you willing to stay home? It’s been 1 year.......2, 5, 10 years.....serious questions. 
    One more year tops
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,876
    As long as it takes 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,014
    edited March 2021
    This isn't attacking anyone, everyone is free to do whatever they wish with their own lives and I respect it
    But this is what I gather just from speaking with all of my different social and work circles

    There are about 25% of those who have been out of the bubble since April of 2020 and are already mentally back to a maskless, normal society

    Theres another 65% (which I fall into) that feel like once vaccinated, they've done all they can for themselves (the older folks) and the younger folks have done what they can mainly to help the older folks, and will be willing to go back to normal once vaccines are readily available.  Just an example, My own grandparents who wouldn't let anyone come visit them (rightfully so) were fortunately able to get fully vaccinated.  They now say "we got the vaccine, you guys got the vaccine, if were are going to get this virus then we are just going to get it at this point" and now want us to come and visit them again.  I really feel that most people feel this way.

    And then I think there will be about 10% of those who will continue to stay home, get groceries online, not go out to eat, etc until this thing is either gone (which it will never be completely gone) or the number of cases is incredibly low, even after a vaccine is readily and easily available to everyone in their country.  

    Just the vibes I get as someone who connects and speaks to people of all ages regarding the virus pretty frequently

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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    This isn't attacking anyone, everyone is free to do whatever they wish with their own lives and I respect it
    But this is what I gather just from speaking with all of my different social and work circles

    There are about 25% of those who have been out of the bubble since April of 2020 and are already mentally back to a maskless, normal society

    Theres another 65% (which I fall into) that feel like once vaccinated, they've done all they can for themselves (the older folks) and the younger folks have done what they can mainly to help the older folks, and will be willing to go back to normal once vaccines are readily available.  Just an example, My own grandparents who wouldn't let anyone come visit them (rightfully so) were fortunately able to get fully vaccinated.  They now say "we got the vaccine, you guys got the vaccine, if were are going to get this virus then we are just going to get it at this point" and now want us to come and visit them again.  I really feel that most people feel this way.

    And then I think there will be about 10% of those who will continue to stay home, get groceries online, not go out to eat, etc until this thing is either gone (which it will never be completely gone) or the number of cases is incredibly low, even after a vaccine is readily and easily available to everyone in their country.  

    Just the vibes I get as someone who connects and speaks to people of all ages regarding the virus pretty frequently


    The 25% is much higher, I feel, although I think your breakdowns look good. 
    Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.
    Thanks!
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    edited March 2021
    Well, things are going to going especially partisan again as we see "red" states lift mandates and "blue" states maintain masks and limit gatherings. Texas is all in.

    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-lifts-mask-mandate-opens-texas-100-percent
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    It's a hopeless situation...
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    0 masks
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    14 day quarantine 
    10 day quarantine 
    7 day quarantine 
    10 feet apart
    6 feet apart
    On and on....
    Brotato, haven't you heard...  The goalposts move man!  Science is evolving...  Follow the science...  You know, the science that says if I am born with a penis then I can compete in women's sports...  Science!!!

    Sorry, would chat more but the three masks I have been wearing, because if two good then three better, are starting to give me a headache...
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.
    Thanks!
    Cry me a freakin river!
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    tbergs said:
    Well, things are going to going especially partisan again as we see "red" states lift mandates and "blue" states maintain masks and limit gatherings. Texas is all in.

    https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-lifts-mask-mandate-opens-texas-100-percent
    As I have said, it has always been about the political science...  Don't ever think it was about anything else.
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.
    Thanks!
    Cry me a freakin river!
    🤡
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • gvn2fly1421
    gvn2fly1421 Posts: 935
    Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.
    Thanks!
    Cry me a freakin river!
    🤡
    Looks like the troll got another bite...  Keep blaming everyone else but yourself, you single mask wearer you!  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,800
    Also, I do not like the 25%+ group.  They made (and continue to make) it worse for the rest of us.
    Thanks!
    Cry me a freakin river!
    🤡
    Looks like the troll got another bite...  Keep blaming everyone else but yourself, you single mask wearer you!  

    :joker:
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
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