The coronavirus

dankind

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

cincybearcat

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

dankind

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

cincybearcat

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

Good luck to you ongoing.

HIPPA doesn’t prevent sharing the data of if covid was deemed transmitted at school or elsewhere. My school district is providing that info. 

dankind

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

Good luck to you ongoing.

HIPPA doesn’t prevent sharing the data of if covid was deemed transmitted at school or elsewhere. My school district is providing that info. 

As far as I can recall, we have not received one letter all year regarding in-school transmission. That would surprise me. 

It won’t surprise me at all, however, to see shloads of such letters if they rush into the April reopening. 

My son’s school was built in 1911. Kids were passing out because of poor ventilation pre-Covid-19. 

This town needs an enema. 

cincybearcat

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

Good luck to you ongoing.

HIPPA doesn’t prevent sharing the data of if covid was deemed transmitted at school or elsewhere. My school district is providing that info. 

As far as I can recall, we have not received one letter all year regarding in-school transmission. That would surprise me. 

It won’t surprise me at all, however, to see shloads of such letters if they rush into the April reopening. 

My son’s school was built in 1911. Kids were passing out because of poor ventilation pre-Covid-19. 

This town needs an enema. 

Yeah you mentioned the poor ventilation. Obviously part of safe protocols. Not all schools are created equal. Many can be fine and many shouldn’t open if they can’t meet the protocols 

what dreams

gvn2fly1421 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, a global pandemic will do that. weird, huh?

So at what point do we do all we can to protect the elderly, the only population the virus truly harms, and move on with life?  

I was trying to stay out of this discussion but you got me here. I personally have spent the last year of my life doing everything I can to protect the elderly, as one of them lives in my home, with several co-morbities that I have also spent over three years prior fighting for her. This is what it has meant for me and her -- being cooped up in the house going on a year. Masking when I'm on the weekly grocery store run. Most importantly, teaching from home, because I know if I had been forced into a school building in MY community (not some idyllic wealthy white enclave) where the positivity rate in a two square mile radius is STILL close to 20%, she would be dead. I've kept her out of the hospital for over three years from heart failure and diabetes complications (her cardiologist says we are role models), and on one bad day in this past year, I could have brought home Covid and killed her if my local school district didn't have the sense and HEART to keep our schools shut. 

Dude, ONE-THIRD of this nation's population is elderly. I am not alone in my caretaker role. There are millions of us. How do you propose keeping that one-third of the population alive without impacting everyone else? Tell me what research says to isolate about 100 million people while the rest of us go about our lives? Can't wait to read it. It will make me feel so much better to know there's something different I could have done.

mcgruff10

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

Good luck to you ongoing.

HIPPA doesn’t prevent sharing the data of if covid was deemed transmitted at school or elsewhere. My school district is providing that info. 

As far as I can recall, we have not received one letter all year regarding in-school transmission. That would surprise me. 

It won’t surprise me at all, however, to see shloads of such letters if they rush into the April reopening. 

My son’s school was built in 1911. Kids were passing out because of poor ventilation pre-Covid-19. 

This town needs an enema. 

Yeah you mentioned the poor ventilation. Obviously part of safe protocols. Not all schools are created equal. Many can be fine and many shouldn’t open if they can’t meet the protocols 

It seems like the key to keeping our schools safe is (at least in our district):
socially distance as best as you can (sometimes impossible with 22 students in my class)
don't switch classes (kids stay in the same classroom all day)
mask up

what dreams

My school district voted this week to open K-4 with the jacked up hybrid (5-2 vote) and keep 5-12 virtual for the remainder of the year (4-3 vote). 

I'm in the middle of our persuasion unit, so in the two weeks leading up to the vote, students wrote letters to the school board expressing their opinion. I couldn't require them to send it, but four volunteered. It was 3-1 expressing a desire to continue online. Common refrains -- kids don't take this seriously and won't wear their masks and they don't want to bring it home. I was proud when one of the school board members addressed all of them directly at the meeting and encouraged them to continue to use their voices, that their voices were important. I played that clip in class the next day. 

I'm still working through the grading and will be curious as to where the final count lands. At the pre-writing stage, a Zoom poll revealed one third wanted to go back, one third wanted to stay home, and one third wasn't sure. 

More people need to start listening to what kids actually say, not what we want them to say. 

Weston1283

South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/

dankind

what dreams said:

My school district voted this week to open K-4 with the jacked up hybrid (5-2 vote) and keep 5-12 virtual for the remainder of the year (4-3 vote). 

I'm in the middle of our persuasion unit, so in the two weeks leading up to the vote, students wrote letters to the school board expressing their opinion. I couldn't require them to send it, but four volunteered. It was 3-1 expressing a desire to continue online. Common refrains -- kids don't take this seriously and won't wear their masks and they don't want to bring it home. I was proud when one of the school board members addressed all of them directly at the meeting and encouraged them to continue to use their voices, that their voices were important. I played that clip in class the next day. 

I'm still working through the grading and will be curious as to where the final count lands. At the pre-writing stage, a Zoom poll revealed one third wanted to go back, one third wanted to stay home, and one third wasn't sure. 

More people need to start listening to what kids actually say, not what we want them to say. 

This. 

When we get the surveys from the district, we always have our children take them with us and go with their answers. 

If they’re not comfortable with their surroundings, constantly measuring their classmates’/educators’ proximity to them, etc., how are they supposed to focus on learning? 

The rush shouldn’t be to get certain grade levels back to school—our district/state seems to be heading in this direction as well—it should be to get those who are falling behind academically because of a lack of in-person learning. 

Many kids are doing just fine academically and happy to wait until their loved ones (and possibly themselves) are vaccinated before returning to classrooms in person, likely next school year. 

Others, of course, need help ASAP. Focus there. But that requires a minor restructuring that is likely way overdue anyway. And fuck that, right? Why improve when we can return to the status quo?

To me, the push to get all children in classrooms before the more vulnerable among us have been vaccinated (many of them parents, grandparents, guardians) seems to go against everything we’ve been doing for nearly a year and comes from a place of privilege.

Hobbes

Weston1283 said:

South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/

As SC maintains the lead for cases per capita. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus/south-carolinas-governor-rolls-back-restrictions-but-cases-away-from-the-coast-remain-stubbornly-high

what dreams

Hobbes said:

Weston1283 said:

South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/

As SC maintains the lead for cases per capita. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus/south-carolinas-governor-rolls-back-restrictions-but-cases-away-from-the-coast-remain-stubbornly-high

Yeah, I wouldn't use SC as an example. I used to live there and have many best friends there, in Charleston. Even the reasonable ones among them are going to clubs maskless and having backyard parties galore. The food and beverage industry especially has been crushed with cases. Hospitality is a big part of their culture in general and their biggest economic driver. Not having parties for a year hasn't really been a thing they could do successfully. 

PJNB

If I asked my kid if he wanted to go to school pre covid he would have said no. If we are polling them are we taking that into account where a lot of kids just don't want to go to school unless they are forced? That muddies the results for sure. 

dankind

PJNB said:

If I asked my kid if he wanted to go to school pre covid he would have said no. If we are polling them are we taking that into account where a lot of kids just don't want to go to school unless they are forced? That muddies the results for sure. 

If their academic performance hasn’t suffered from remote learning, then I’d say absolutely they should be permitted to continue to learning remotely.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see private remote learning programs become more popular post-pandemic among parents who’ve observed their children thriving in/preferring this model.

PJNB

dankind said:

PJNB said:

If I asked my kid if he wanted to go to school pre covid he would have said no. If we are polling them are we taking that into account where a lot of kids just don't want to go to school unless they are forced? That muddies the results for sure. 

If their academic performance hasn’t suffered from remote learning, then I’d say absolutely they should be permitted to continue to learning remotely.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see private remote learning programs become more popular post-pandemic among parents who’ve observed their children thriving in/preferring this model.

I agree it should definitely be an option through the rest of the school year. They have it set up still finish the year off with a hybrid with some at home and some at school and revisit it this fall. I am really hoping fall 2021 can have some normalcy in the schools. Safely of course. 

cincybearcat

mcgruff10 said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

cincybearcat said:

dankind said:

And just like that, one week after February break ends, we get a positive case letter from one of the schools. I hope it's just a one-off thing, but I wouldn't be surprised to see several more over the coming weeks. 

You really need to be more specific. The school made you aware of someone that had covid, caught it elsewhere and was at school? 

I would be more specific but HIPAA and all. 

The schools here have to inform parents if a member of their community (student body, educators, administrators, facilitators) tests positive for Covid-19. We were getting these letters daily for a while since we have kids in two of the schools (elementary and middle), but I hadn’t seen one in my inbox for a couple of weeks at least. Until yesterday.

(I should mention that the schools will send a second letter if your child is determined to have been in close contact with the positive case, which is still anonymous, of course, because HIPAA). 

Most students in my region had a week off during Prez Day week. I fear that the combination of better data leading to complacency, school break, and fresh powder may have fucked us again. 

Honestly, my kids are better off if we get more cases because that might shut down all this talk of an April school reopening. As mentioned earlier, our children (and many in a similar situation) cannot go back to school in person full time in April because our entire household has comorbidities and the vaccine rollout here (not a red state but a red-led state) has been pretty atrocious (improving now).

Good luck to you ongoing.

HIPPA doesn’t prevent sharing the data of if covid was deemed transmitted at school or elsewhere. My school district is providing that info. 

As far as I can recall, we have not received one letter all year regarding in-school transmission. That would surprise me. 

It won’t surprise me at all, however, to see shloads of such letters if they rush into the April reopening. 

My son’s school was built in 1911. Kids were passing out because of poor ventilation pre-Covid-19. 

This town needs an enema. 

Yeah you mentioned the poor ventilation. Obviously part of safe protocols. Not all schools are created equal. Many can be fine and many shouldn’t open if they can’t meet the protocols 

It seems like the key to keeping our schools safe is (at least in our district):
socially distance as best as you can (sometimes impossible with 22 students in my class)
don't switch classes (kids stay in the same classroom all day)
mask up

Helpful. Like I’ve said before though my daughter has had an entire school year in class with some classes 20. They switch classes. They wear masks, keep 3-6’ apart, plexiglass in lunchroom, hallways are 1 way, and they manage the times grips of kids can go to lockers.

cincybearcat

dankind said:

PJNB said:

If I asked my kid if he wanted to go to school pre covid he would have said no. If we are polling them are we taking that into account where a lot of kids just don't want to go to school unless they are forced? That muddies the results for sure. 

If their academic performance hasn’t suffered from remote learning, then I’d say absolutely they should be permitted to continue to learning remotely.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see private remote learning programs become more popular post-pandemic among parents who’ve observed their children thriving in/preferring this model.

Academics is one (a major one) aspect of school. So much more to it that is beneficial. I hope this doesn’t lead to more home schooled or online schooled kids. I personally think that would be a huge mistake for many.

F Me In The Brain

Some kids would no doubt do better at home....some kids better in school.  Depends on the kid.

Spunkie

Weston1283 said:

South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/

 
Man that's crazy to read. I'm moving into month 5 of no socializing outside of household unless on a walk. 

As for the school chat, I'm gathering the data must be that it's the best place for the kids, because I'm doing all the aforementioned restrictions to keep them in class.