The coronavirus

nicknyr15

Lerxst1992 said:

what dreams said:

Hobbes said:

Weston1283 said:

South Carolina has lifted all curfews, alcohol sale restrictions, gathering and large event attendance limits as of Tomorrow.  Basically they're just "encouraging" mask wearing and thats it.

https://www.wistv.com/2021/02/26/sc-governor-allow-alcohol-sales-past-pm-lift-covid-restrictions-gatherings/

As SC maintains the lead for cases per capita. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/02/26/world/covid-19-coronavirus/south-carolinas-governor-rolls-back-restrictions-but-cases-away-from-the-coast-remain-stubbornly-high

Yeah, I wouldn't use SC as an example. I used to live there and have many best friends there, in Charleston. Even the reasonable ones among them are going to clubs maskless and having backyard parties galore. The food and beverage industry especially has been crushed with cases. Hospitality is a big part of their culture in general and their biggest economic driver. Not having parties for a year hasn't really been a thing they could do successfully. 

Use NYC as an example. We are 12th on that list. NYS cases are down barely 50% from the January peak while the country is down over 70%. NYS is among the worst states in the country, which should be puzzling since most New Yorkers respect science and masks are worn by almost all. 

Yes it is believed the worst variant of all is in NY. What else is different here? NYC was the first big city to have widespread school openings, and in the near suburbs where I am, schools have been open for the entire school year, and now most schools are at nearly 100% building capacity 4 days a week.

yet unlike the Trump years, there is no media check here. Outside of the news last week about this new variant and nursing homes, the media never mentions that Cuomo and the state have done a horrible job on covid safety since September. The state  rewrites the rules here to keep schools open, and cases are even starting to tick up this week. NY is middle of the pack in vaccine rollout, yet getting an appointment here is almost always impossible to find.

Brought this up a whole bunch of times here last year only to be told “No It’s All Trump”. Hopefully with Trump out of office we can now see how bad some of these other useless governors completely dropped the ball. 

Halifax2TheMax

Wow! Some gubners are better than others? You don’t sayshaa? In the absence of the Golden D, who might it be? Rs rule, eh? 

Hobbes

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.

Toxic masculinity at its finest.

nicknyr15

Halifax2TheMax said:

Wow! Some gubners are better than others? You don’t sayshaa? In the absence of the Golden D, who might it be? Rs rule, eh? 

What is this? 

lastexitlondon

This place is confusing 

lastexitlondon

Hobbes said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

Reading this forum is like listening to a pile of people who need a safe space.  Sad as hell, and it’s exactly why we’re in the lame ass position we’re in. Man up, go to your jobs and go back to school.  Masks? Cool, if that makes you feel better, no problem there.  Just stop being daisies and get on it, merica.  Don’t be like the drawer of girls in this forum, what a bunch of sassiebunnies.

Toxic masculinity at its finest.

It just shows the person for what they are right here

Ledbetterman10

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

nicknyr15

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

Ledbetterman10

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

I know a couple of people (my boss and my father among them) who were all about this guy when he was giving those daily briefings, probably because he was in opposition of Trump. But now, with Trump vanquished, and these reports coming out about the nursing homes, they're singing a different tune. Which I respect. There's nothing worse than the person that won't acknowledge when someone on their "team" deserves blame/criticism...as we've all seen with some of Trump's biggest fans. But this guy is a joke. His briefings, his appearances on his brother's show, his book, and most laughable of all, his Emmy award. Give me a break. 

Lerxst1992

Ledbetterman10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

I know a couple of people (my boss and my father among them) who were all about this guy when he was giving those daily briefings, probably because he was in opposition of Trump. But now, with Trump vanquished, and these reports coming out about the nursing homes, they're singing a different tune. Which I respect. There's nothing worse than the person that won't acknowledge when someone on their "team" deserves blame/criticism...as we've all seen with some of Trump's biggest fans. But this guy is a joke. His briefings, his appearances on his brother's show, his book, and most laughable of all, his Emmy award. Give me a break. 

The new nursing home scandal, as terrible as it is, is a bit of a false flag as it’s solely a reporting issue. The nursing home scandal last March was horrible, but that’s not the media focus now.

NYS is doing horribly with the virus, among one of the worst states the past few months, and cuomo and his media are pretending schools are completely safe. Schools are probably safer than restaurants, but that does not make them safe. And no one will take on the state govt nor the school districts here, and there is no media holding them accountable like they did with Trump. People are getting sick and dying, and NYS is pretending it’s doing a good job and safe to have schools at near 100% capacity.

Weston1283

https://techcrunch.com/2021/03/01/eu-to-propose-a-digital-pass-for-covid-19-vaccination-test-status-to-help-safer-travel/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Zod

Lerxst1992 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

I know a couple of people (my boss and my father among them) who were all about this guy when he was giving those daily briefings, probably because he was in opposition of Trump. But now, with Trump vanquished, and these reports coming out about the nursing homes, they're singing a different tune. Which I respect. There's nothing worse than the person that won't acknowledge when someone on their "team" deserves blame/criticism...as we've all seen with some of Trump's biggest fans. But this guy is a joke. His briefings, his appearances on his brother's show, his book, and most laughable of all, his Emmy award. Give me a break. 

The new nursing home scandal, as terrible as it is, is a bit of a false flag as it’s solely a reporting issue. The nursing home scandal last March was horrible, but that’s not the media focus now.

NYS is doing horribly with the virus, among one of the worst states the past few months, and cuomo and his media are pretending schools are completely safe. Schools are probably safer than restaurants, but that does not make them safe. And no one will take on the state govt nor the school districts here, and there is no media holding them accountable like they did with Trump. People are getting sick and dying, and NYS is pretending it’s doing a good job and safe to have schools at near 100% capacity.

Schools are open where I live(BC, Canada) but here it feels like the government picked and chose things they felt was important to keep open.  Very much at the expense of personal relationships (Which for what feels like 4 months, you're not really suppose to visit people outside our own household).

I think you can pull off schools being open, but it means you have to sacrifice social contacts somewhere else.   I'm also not sure what the long term ramifications are keeping kids at home for 2 years to ride out coronavirus.   Education wise, and social wise (2 years of not evolving their ability to handle personal relationships etc..).

dankind

Zod said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

I know a couple of people (my boss and my father among them) who were all about this guy when he was giving those daily briefings, probably because he was in opposition of Trump. But now, with Trump vanquished, and these reports coming out about the nursing homes, they're singing a different tune. Which I respect. There's nothing worse than the person that won't acknowledge when someone on their "team" deserves blame/criticism...as we've all seen with some of Trump's biggest fans. But this guy is a joke. His briefings, his appearances on his brother's show, his book, and most laughable of all, his Emmy award. Give me a break. 

The new nursing home scandal, as terrible as it is, is a bit of a false flag as it’s solely a reporting issue. The nursing home scandal last March was horrible, but that’s not the media focus now.

NYS is doing horribly with the virus, among one of the worst states the past few months, and cuomo and his media are pretending schools are completely safe. Schools are probably safer than restaurants, but that does not make them safe. And no one will take on the state govt nor the school districts here, and there is no media holding them accountable like they did with Trump. People are getting sick and dying, and NYS is pretending it’s doing a good job and safe to have schools at near 100% capacity.

Schools are open where I live(BC, Canada) but here it feels like the government picked and chose things they felt was important to keep open.  Very much at the expense of personal relationships (Which for what feels like 4 months, you're not really suppose to visit people outside our own household).

I think you can pull off schools being open, but it means you have to sacrifice social contacts somewhere else.   I'm also not sure what the long term ramifications are keeping kids at home for 2 years to ride out coronavirus.   Education wise, and social wise (2 years of not evolving their ability to handle personal relationships etc..).

I went to public school for 13 years, university and grad school for 7 more years, and suffered from situational anxiety and depression for all 20 of those years. 

Sure, I made some lifelong friends as well, but if I had the option back then to do it all from home or just not around other people who made me awfully uncomfortable, that would have been fabulous. 

Thankfully, I’m an adult now, and I know that all the cruel social bullshit that I went through in school is just that. Cruelty and bullshit. 

None of it has applied to my adult life. 

F Me In The Brain

dankind said:

Zod said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

nicknyr15 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

John Oliver killed Cuomo last night. Scroll down a bit on this page for the video: John Oliver Unloads on ‘Colossal Asshole’ Andrew Cuomo

Ha. All of a sudden eh? Guy has been a major bully and a dick for quite some time. 

I know a couple of people (my boss and my father among them) who were all about this guy when he was giving those daily briefings, probably because he was in opposition of Trump. But now, with Trump vanquished, and these reports coming out about the nursing homes, they're singing a different tune. Which I respect. There's nothing worse than the person that won't acknowledge when someone on their "team" deserves blame/criticism...as we've all seen with some of Trump's biggest fans. But this guy is a joke. His briefings, his appearances on his brother's show, his book, and most laughable of all, his Emmy award. Give me a break. 

The new nursing home scandal, as terrible as it is, is a bit of a false flag as it’s solely a reporting issue. The nursing home scandal last March was horrible, but that’s not the media focus now.

NYS is doing horribly with the virus, among one of the worst states the past few months, and cuomo and his media are pretending schools are completely safe. Schools are probably safer than restaurants, but that does not make them safe. And no one will take on the state govt nor the school districts here, and there is no media holding them accountable like they did with Trump. People are getting sick and dying, and NYS is pretending it’s doing a good job and safe to have schools at near 100% capacity.

Schools are open where I live(BC, Canada) but here it feels like the government picked and chose things they felt was important to keep open.  Very much at the expense of personal relationships (Which for what feels like 4 months, you're not really suppose to visit people outside our own household).

I think you can pull off schools being open, but it means you have to sacrifice social contacts somewhere else.   I'm also not sure what the long term ramifications are keeping kids at home for 2 years to ride out coronavirus.   Education wise, and social wise (2 years of not evolving their ability to handle personal relationships etc..).

I went to public school for 13 years, university and grad school for 7 more years, and suffered from situational anxiety and depression for all 20 of those years. 

Sure, I made some lifelong friends as well, but if I had the option back then to do it all from home or just not around other people who made me awfully uncomfortable, that would have been fabulous. 

Thankfully, I’m an adult now, and I know that all the cruel social bullshit that I went through in school is just that. Cruelty and bullshit. 

None of it has applied to my adult life. 

If I think back on pre-college schooling there was always someone in class who likely would've loved the option to be elsewhere.  I was always a very social person and the only part of school I truly liked was being around other people.  I think your point is a strong one - some people do not find a groove, for whatever reason, and it causes a lot of misery for them.

In college I went to a large University and felt there was a group for everyone - sure seemed like it - but it could be that many felt far outside/alone in things as well.

oftenreading

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

elvistheking44

oftenreading said:

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

2 weeks to flatten the curve
4 weeks between doses
6 weeks between doses
16 weeks between doses.....

I can see why people are losing faith.

tbergs

elvistheking44 said:

oftenreading said:

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

2 weeks to flatten the curve
4 weeks between doses
6 weeks between doses
16 weeks between doses.....

I can see why people are losing faith.

Which is odd to me because many seem to be of a "faith" background when it comes to a god they have never seen in real life. Not sure why changes based on measurable data would be such a stretch.

hedonist

It’s not surprising to me that news/guidelines change. To think we know everything about this virus, the vaccine, and how to try and survive it all would be arrogant. 

I mean c’mon, if there’s one thing human are not, it’s arrogant 🙄

lastexitlondon

oftenreading said:

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

Its not a gamble based on our data. Its a lifesaver and I'm glad we took that chance to find out.

lastexitlondon

elvistheking44 said:

oftenreading said:

Our provincial health officer has decided to delay all second doses of the vaccines to 16 weeks, from the prior schedule of 6 weeks. This is based on new data coming out that suggests a high level of protection starting a few weeks after the first dose and lasting for at least a few months. The new roll out plan means that more people get their first dose more quickly; in fact, the current projections are that every adult who wants to be vaccinated will have their first dose by end of July, which is amazing. 

I have some ambivalence about this, because the data on this is preliminary and it's potentially quite a gamble to make this big a change without the backing of the approval data. I sure hope the province is planning to robustly gather data, so that this can be a useful study for other jurisdictions. On the other hand, it seems to provide the most benefit to the greatest number of people, which I'm in favour of. 

2 weeks to flatten the curve
4 weeks between doses
6 weeks between doses
16 weeks between doses.....

I can see why people are losing faith.

Because this is a fluid situation and now we have live data. The spacing in the trials didn't extend past the 21 days between shots.  Now live data is showing immunity keeps growing upto 3 months maybe more   and the second dose only adds longevity and maybe a 14% raise in immunity. 
So spacings  actually  help