Will we get live PJ shows, as we knew them, in 2021?

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    Yes
    F Me In The Brain said:
    bbiggs said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I see full capacity in November. As long as you prove you’re vaccinated and wear a mask. There is no way the NFL is going to start another season without fans or limited capacity. Sports teams will be the tell
    That’s quite a bit different from shows as we knew them.  A lot of folks aren’t going to go to a show with proof of vaccination or if a mask is required.  I’ll wait until we can do it the old-fashioned way, assuming we ever get there. 

    Agree. 
    Showing your papers to be able to go to a show is total fucking bs and certainly is not the way to see a band, as we knew it.

    Not saying I won't get the vaccine right away when available, just think showing your papers to see a concert is kinda fucked, and don't see Pearl Jam playing gigs where someone needs to do that.
    If vaccines are indeed widely available by April/May, it wouldn't be worth the effort and anguish for promoters or venues to ask for documentation or try to enforce mask requirements starting in the summer. It wouldn't shock me if there are isolated incidents, but really you're just accepting the risk. It's a different calculus with 90% effective vaccines vs. 60%. Again, all of this assuming current timelines hold.
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,407
    No
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I see full capacity in November. As long as you prove you’re vaccinated and wear a mask. There is no way the NFL is going to start another season without fans or limited capacity. Sports teams will be the tell
    There is no way to ensure that people will wear a mask throughout the entire 3 hour show.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    No
    At this point I don't think it will happen.  Europe in summer is too soon.  U.S. response is slow and fall 2021 could be pushing it.  Perhaps under Biden administration things may move quicker. 
  • Matts3221
    Matts3221 Posts: 658
    No
    Don’t want to add on to the bum out but no way is it happening in 2021
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    No
    "As we knew them"?

    Not a chance.
  • nando1979
    nando1979 Castlerock (Northern Ireland) Posts: 82
    No
    As a European who is desperate for the euro tour to go ahead it breaks my heart to say no. The only slim possibility I see is for a US fall tour, but I still figure that's about a 10% chance of happening. In my opinion there is zero chance the euro tour happens unfortunately 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    edited January 2021
    No
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    No
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    I'm getting to this point as well.  I'm holding tickets to 3 shows still, but if we're staring down a 2+ year wait on those shows, and not knowing how they will look or which shows may get cancelled, it almost seems that scrapping the whole thing and starting over when they're ready to tour is the right move. 

  • Gibson
    Gibson Chicago Posts: 2,671
    No
    Arena shows or larger: 2022
    Bands in reduced capacity, smaller venues: fall 2021 (depending on the state)

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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,121
    No
    Even if the tour still happened somehow in 2021, they would have to redo the tickets. The tickets were sold as a sold-out show. There's no way we will have that in 2021. I was happy to get a refund when they offered them last year. 
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,292
    edited January 2021
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    Wouldn't it be better to offer a refund first? So, this way people who want their money back can, and for those who still want to see the shows they already have tickets for still can see those shows? And, maybe, a better reason not to cancel is  the Band have the Venues already and won't have to fight other bands/sport teams/other entertainment, for the same venues? 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    I'm getting to this point as well.  I'm holding tickets to 3 shows still, but if we're staring down a 2+ year wait on those shows, and not knowing how they will look or which shows may get cancelled, it almost seems that scrapping the whole thing and starting over when they're ready to tour is the right move. 

    No way they will do that with the mess that face to fan would be refunding everyone I would bet. Some of those tickets have been sold 10 times over at least for the top shows. 

    I have 5 shows for the spring tour all GA so I am admittedly biased but I also am holding a couple of pairs of tickets for friends and family. I have a lot of money tied up right now and I still say to keep the shows as planned. If they cancelled now what was the point of postponing last year just to have a vaccine come out earlier than expected and shows hopefully on the horizon or at least a timeline of when we can have them. 


  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Even if they felt it was safe, I’m not sure I would. If others do, go for it. 

    Forgoing shows for a long time blows, but it won’t end my life or make it any worse at all. 
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited January 2021
    hedonist said:
    Even if they felt it was safe, I’m not sure I would. If others do, go for it. 

    Forgoing shows for a long time blows, but it won’t end my life or make it any worse at all. 
    So even with a vaccine and herd immunity you will still not feel safe? What exactly are you looking for here to feel safe to go to a show? Not knocking you and genuinely curious. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    No
    cutz said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    Wouldn't it be better to offer a refund first? So, this way people who want their money back can, and for those who still want to see the shows they already have tickets for still can see those shows? And, maybe, a better reason not to cancel is  the Band have the Venues already and won't have to fight other bands/sport teams/other entertainment, for the same venues? 
    At this point does the band still have the venue?  I mean once the date passes I can't see them holding the venue a year or two later.  With venues I would assume that professional sports teams get first crack at dates then some where done the line would be pj?  I'm guessing there is no guarantee that they would get all the same venues.  I think the best best is to just start over.
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJNB said:
    hedonist said:
    Even if they felt it was safe, I’m not sure I would. If others do, go for it. 

    Forgoing shows for a long time blows, but it won’t end my life or make it any worse at all. 
    So even with a vaccine and herd immunity you will still not feel safe? What exactly are you looking for here to feel safe to go to a show? Not knocking you and genuinely curious. 
    I plan on getting the vaccine but still not sure how long it lasts. My health/immunity is quite fucked, so I can’t afford to let my guard down.

    And like I said, it wouldn’t be a huge loss for me, in the scheme of things :)
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,143
    No
    PJNB said:
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    I'm getting to this point as well.  I'm holding tickets to 3 shows still, but if we're staring down a 2+ year wait on those shows, and not knowing how they will look or which shows may get cancelled, it almost seems that scrapping the whole thing and starting over when they're ready to tour is the right move. 

    No way they will do that with the mess that face to fan would be refunding everyone I would bet. Some of those tickets have been sold 10 times over at least for the top shows. 

    I have 5 shows for the spring tour all GA so I am admittedly biased but I also am holding a couple of pairs of tickets for friends and family. I have a lot of money tied up right now and I still say to keep the shows as planned. If they cancelled now what was the point of postponing last year just to have a vaccine come out earlier than expected and shows hopefully on the horizon or at least a timeline of when we can have them. 


    Those five ga shows might be spread out over six weeks now.  Look what happened to the shows you were going to in Europe.  Wouldn’t you just rather start over and plan accordingly?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJNB said:
    bbiggs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    At this point it would be nice if they canceled the spring 2020 tour and refund people their money.
    I'm getting to this point as well.  I'm holding tickets to 3 shows still, but if we're staring down a 2+ year wait on those shows, and not knowing how they will look or which shows may get cancelled, it almost seems that scrapping the whole thing and starting over when they're ready to tour is the right move. 

    No way they will do that with the mess that face to fan would be refunding everyone I would bet. Some of those tickets have been sold 10 times over at least for the top shows. 

    I have 5 shows for the spring tour all GA so I am admittedly biased but I also am holding a couple of pairs of tickets for friends and family. I have a lot of money tied up right now and I still say to keep the shows as planned. If they cancelled now what was the point of postponing last year just to have a vaccine come out earlier than expected and shows hopefully on the horizon or at least a timeline of when we can have them. 


    Those five ga shows might be spread out over six weeks now.  Look what happened to the shows you were going to in Europe.  Wouldn’t you just rather start over and plan accordingly?
    My 4 Canadian shows would line up with one another whether they cancelled and rebooked or not and my NY show can come when ever it wants as it would be a separate trip no matter what. That is just for me though and I know others can feel the opposite. I just do not see the need to go through the lottery again for the same shows that we already had tickets for due to it being pushed out further. There is no benefit on my end as far as I can see. 
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    edited January 2021
    No
    I wish everyone could get on the same page and focus on defeating this virus in the next 12 months. I think its absolutely possible with the tools science is about to hand us. At some point in 2021 its not going to be the virus in charge of our demise its going to be ourselves. I like to use sports analogies, think of 2020 as your favorite baseball team losing 110 games. They were awful and need a complete rebuild. But in 2021 we have a new front office taking over and some incredible prospects on the way in Moderna & Pfizer. With a few more in the pipeline as well. But it will take time! Lets shoot for a .500 season in 2021 because anything more is not realistic. When I see discussions about 2021 shows it feels like fans of that 110 loss team plotting where they want to sit for the 2021 World Series. It honestly makes me sad, let's all do our part and maybe this rebuild can be completed in 12-18 months and not 24-36. We need unity and patience right now and I fear in a divided country obsessed with instant gratification this might not go as well as it should. With all that said I think Spring 2022 shows are our best hope, if we don't botch this horribly as a society. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,581
    Yes
    lastexit78 said:
    I wish everyone could get on the same page and focus on defeating this virus in the next 12 months. I think its absolutely possible with the tools science is about to hand us. At some point in 2021 its not going to be the virus in charge of our demise its going to be ourselves. I like to use sports analogies, think of 2020 as your favorite baseball team losing 110 games. They were awful and need a complete rebuild. But in 2021 we have a new front office taking over and some incredible prospects on the way in Moderna & Pfizer. With a few more in the pipeline as well. But it will take time! Lets shoot for a .500 season in 2021 because anything more is not realistic. When I see discussions about 2021 shows it feels like fans of that 110 loss team plotting where they want to sit for the 2021 World Series. It honestly makes me sad, let's all do our part and maybe this rebuild can be completed in 12-18 months and not 24-36. We need unity and patience right now and I fear in a divided country obsessed with instant gratification this might not go as well as it should. With all that said I think Spring 2022 shows are our best hope, if we don't botch this horribly as a society. 
    There's a very real possibility that things could be as reasonably safe as they're going to get by June. Kicking concerts back up means a lot of people starting to get their livelihoods back.

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