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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112

    https://www.thekitchn.com/hoagies-heroes-subs-and-grinders-whats-the-deal-with-these-sandwich-names-222944
    Layer some meat, maybe some cheese, a spread, and your favorite toppings between two slices of bread and you’ve got yourself a sandwich. Swap that bread for a long, thick roll (the longer, the better) and you’ve got something else entirely. This isn’t just a sandwich — it’s something far greater.

    As for what it’s called, however, that’s a whole other thing. Hoagie, sub, grinder — what’s the deal with all these names for a fairly straightforward food?

    Subs

     

    Growing up in northern New Jersey, I knew these sandwiches — piled high with meat, cheese, fixings, and dressing — by one name: a sub. Served on a long Italian roll anywhere from six inches to six feet, this sandwich is named for its resemblance to a submarine.

    “Sub” is probably the most widely used name for this type of cold sandwich. Whether you’re in the north, south, east coast, west coast, or midwest, you’ve probably used this term before. (Or at the very least, you’ve heard of it.)

    Hoagies

    Going to college in Pennsylvania taught me that people from Philadelphia and South Jersey are adamant about calling this sandwich a “hoagie.” Like a sub, hoagies are also served cold, but have a stronger association with Italian-Ameican culture.

    There are several theories surrounding the origin of this sandwich’s name. One of my favorites is that these sandwiches got their name from popularity among the Italian immigrants who worked at the Philadelphia Navy Yard, once known as Hog Island. These workers were known as “hoggies,” which eventually morphed into “hoagies.”

    Heroes

    This sandwich variation hails from New York City, and is seemingly the most versatile. It uses a range of different fillings that span beyond meat and cheese, and can be served warm or cold.

    One fun explanation is that the name implies the heroic effort needed to actually eat this sandwich.

    Grinders

    This sandwich variation is well-known among New Englanders, and can be served warm or cold. Instead of cold cuts and cheese, you might also find grinders filled with meatballs or sliced chicken breast.

    One theory is that these long sandwiches got their name because they require so much grinding or chewing.

    What do you call this type of sandwich?

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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,073
    It’s always been sub to me. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Hmm...never knew of the New England vernacular. I don't normally get a grinder but, around here, it's just a hoagie thrown in the oven for a bit. 

    God damnit....I want another hoagie now
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,890
    North of England say pop for what you call soda


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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,882
    The Juggler said:
    Hmm...never knew of the New England vernacular. I don't normally get a grinder but, around here, it's just a hoagie thrown in the oven for a bit. 

    God damnit....I want another hoagie now
    Don't believe the hype. We don't call them grinders here. We call them subs.
    Maybe in Maine or Vermont, I don't know,
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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    Grew up in VT and it was a grinder when it went in the oven

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    lastexitlondon said:
    North of England say pop for what you call soda
    Would that be Scotland?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    edited December 2020
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Grew up in VT and it was a grinder when it went in the oven

    Staying in ludlow this summer with the fam.   I would like a list of all good pizza and sub places within a 60 mile radius.   
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    I’ve never used the term grinder but I used to order an incredible meatball sub quite a bit. Its just called a meatball sub though. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    mcgruff10 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Grew up in VT and it was a grinder when it went in the oven

    Staying in ludlow this summer with the fam.   I would like a list of all good pizza and sub places within a 60 mile radius.   
    Here is your list:

    Did you get them all?  :lol:

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    F Me In The Brain said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Grew up in VT and it was a grinder when it went in the oven

    Staying in ludlow this summer with the fam.   I would like a list of all good pizza and sub places within a 60 mile radius.   
    Here is your list:

    Did you get them all?  :lol:

    That s what I figured.  Lol. 
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    North of England say pop for what you call soda
    Would that be Scotland?
    Not sure what the scots call it. I mean Manchester.  Burnley that sort place


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    lastexitlondon said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    North of England say pop for what you call soda
    Would that be Scotland?
    Not sure what the scots call it. I mean Manchester.  Burnley that sort place
    Isn’t Manchester in England?  I m confused, what does “England” mean, well in England?  I m thinking England as in one of the four parts of the UK.  So north of England would be Scotland.   I m genuinely intrigued Rob.  
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    bbiggs said:
    I’ve never used the term grinder but I used to order an incredible meatball sub quite a bit. Its just called a meatball sub though. 
    Meatball Parm Sandwich. 
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    Grinder is the Connecticut term for sub, hoagie, or wedge (a westchester NY thing). Hot or cold. And while Connecticut owns pizza for the nation, and we do have some great grinder shops, we can tip our hats to Jersey and Philly. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    Get_Right said:
    Grinder is the Connecticut term for sub, hoagie, or wedge (a westchester NY thing). Hot or cold. And while Connecticut owns pizza for the nation, and we do have some great grinder shops, we can tip our hats to Jersey and Philly. 
    Is Apizza even considered pizza?
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    mcgruff10 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Grinder is the Connecticut term for sub, hoagie, or wedge (a westchester NY thing). Hot or cold. And while Connecticut owns pizza for the nation, and we do have some great grinder shops, we can tip our hats to Jersey and Philly. 
    Is Apizza even considered pizza?
    If you know the proper name is Apizza, then you do not need to ask :)
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    Get_Right said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Grinder is the Connecticut term for sub, hoagie, or wedge (a westchester NY thing). Hot or cold. And while Connecticut owns pizza for the nation, and we do have some great grinder shops, we can tip our hats to Jersey and Philly. 
    Is Apizza even considered pizza?
    If you know the proper name is Apizza, then you do not need to ask :)
    Lol.  I ve never had Connecticut pizza, what are some of your favorites? and please start posting in the pizza threads!!!!!
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  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,116
    mcgruff10 said:
    Get_Right said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Get_Right said:
    Grinder is the Connecticut term for sub, hoagie, or wedge (a westchester NY thing). Hot or cold. And while Connecticut owns pizza for the nation, and we do have some great grinder shops, we can tip our hats to Jersey and Philly. 
    Is Apizza even considered pizza?
    If you know the proper name is Apizza, then you do not need to ask :)
    Lol.  I ve never had Connecticut pizza, what are some of your favorites? and please start posting in the pizza threads!!!!!
    Im a lurker in that thread. I think they mostly have them covered. In the interest of thread integrity here, lets stick to grinders, hoagies, subs and wedges. I will say, there is a local joint near me called Rocky's deli in Millwood, NY.  They are famous for a wedge called the hashtag. On paper it is gross, in reality its amazing with a Boylans black cherry soda. I do not have any pictures because my cardiologist strictly forbids me from being within a hundred yards of that place (we go once a month). :)
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    Wedges?!?! What the hell is that?!
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