Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!
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            Biden
 Yep...forgot about Pete. He's been tearing Fox News a new onemrussel1 said:
 PETE!Gern Blansten said:
 Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then. Maybe I'm wrong. I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?Gern Blansten said:
 Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though. We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
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            Biden
 no. she could be put on the supreme court when we pack it.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 So, a VP isn't a shoe in for the nomination?Gern Blansten said:
 Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then. Maybe I'm wrong. I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?Gern Blansten said:
 Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though. We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
 Strategy wise. "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
 "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0
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            BidenAgain, just when I think he can't get any dumber.....“We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election,” the president tweeted. “COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers. Should be an election law violation!” “The Fake News Media is riding COVID, COVID, COVID, all the way to the Election,” he added. “Losers!” I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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            I'm sitting this one out
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. 
 "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            Biden
 I don't even know what you're trying to say. How about trying to write it again in proper syntax? And your definition of 'factual' conflicts with the actual definition of 'opinion'. Is this an ESL thing? I'll cut you some slack on that then. I don't have time for your bullshit today, so if you want to give it another shot, go ahead. Otherwise, you can stop supporting smears.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. Post edited by mrussel1 on0 Post edited by mrussel1 on0
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            I'm sitting this one out
 Sure: Your post was the cheapest post in the thread (my opinion)mrussel1 said:
 I don't even know what you're trying to say. How about trying to write it again in proper syntax? And your definition of 'factual' conflicts with the actual definition of 'opinion'. Is this an ESL thing? I'll cut you some slack on that then. I don't have time for your bullshit today, so if you want to give it another shot, go ahead. Otherwise, you can stop supporting smears.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. 
 Sniffing hair =/= not actually having a heart
 And your included image comes off as cynical (as in cheap) -- what has it to do with Biden according to OnWIs97, hairsniffing.
 I have not supported any smear. I just responded to your post. Or do you believe I do not have a heart? 
 Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            BidenThat cat has an ugly face.www.myspace.com0
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            Biden
 Are you really not understanding the point? He's accused of hair sniffing so I posted a recent image of him consoling a young, mentally impaired man who lost his son at a parkland. This was to show that Joe's history of hugging is not about young girls, women etc. Unless you think he's really trying to sniff the young man's hair too. Hence the image. It's neither irrelevant nor cheap, compared to the smear against Joe, baselessly accusing him if being a pervert.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Sure: Your post was the cheapest post in the thread (my opinion)mrussel1 said:
 I don't even know what you're trying to say. How about trying to write it again in proper syntax? And your definition of 'factual' conflicts with the actual definition of 'opinion'. Is this an ESL thing? I'll cut you some slack on that then. I don't have time for your bullshit today, so if you want to give it another shot, go ahead. Otherwise, you can stop supporting smears.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. 
 Sniffing hair =/= not actually having a heart
 And your included image comes off as cynical (as in cheap) -- what has it to do with Biden according to OnWIs97, hairsniffing.
 I have not supported any smear. I just responded to your post. Or do you believe I do not have a heart? 
 Got it?0
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            I'm sitting this one out
 What kind of binary, simplified description of reality are you trying to pull of here. You have no point.mrussel1 said:
 Are you really not understanding the point? He's accused of hair sniffing so I posted a recent image of him consoling a young, mentally impaired man who lost his son at a parkland. This was to show that Joe's history of hugging is not about young girls, women etc. Unless you think he's really trying to sniff the young man's hair too. Hence the image. It's neither irrelevant nor cheap, compared to the smear against Joe, baselessly accusing him if being a pervert.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Sure: Your post was the cheapest post in the thread (my opinion)mrussel1 said:
 I don't even know what you're trying to say. How about trying to write it again in proper syntax? And your definition of 'factual' conflicts with the actual definition of 'opinion'. Is this an ESL thing? I'll cut you some slack on that then. I don't have time for your bullshit today, so if you want to give it another shot, go ahead. Otherwise, you can stop supporting smears.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. 
 Sniffing hair =/= not actually having a heart
 And your included image comes off as cynical (as in cheap) -- what has it to do with Biden according to OnWIs97, hairsniffing.
 I have not supported any smear. I just responded to your post. Or do you believe I do not have a heart? 
 Got it?
 Here you have some simple math:
 Him hugging the father of a Parkland victim
 doesn't mean
 he can't sniff hair on other individuals
 See some other examples:
 Freddy Krueger crying when his daughter was born
 doesn't mean
 he can't go around killing teens in their dreams
 or
 Me listening to Pearl Jam
 doesn't mean
 i can not also listen to Nickleback
 But I will not further this conversation. Because last time Biden was discussed in a negative light I was defacto accused of being a russian asset working to undermine US democracy. So will not do that on here again.
 And again, my point in my post was not about Biden as a person -- but about my reading of your post. That in my opinion comes off as writing in a dog in a movie to show that the lead character is compassionate. And as binary too.,
 Had nothing to do with Joe Biden, my post. Just so people reads it correctly.
 Thank you.
 Now off for a beer.
 Got it?Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            BidenHere's the context for that wonderful photo. Please be polite to each other.
 Falling down,...not staying down0
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            Biden
 No it doesn't mean that he CANNOT do it, but it certainly doesn't mean he does. Therefore it's a smear. Got it? That's the point. It's a fucking smear and every time I see the smear, I'm going to call it out as such. All of your other bullshit about Riot Act, Kiss, and whatever else is just gibberish. It's hilarious that you think my defense of Biden is cheap, not the actual accusation.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What kind of binary, simplified description of reality are you trying to pull of here. You have no point.mrussel1 said:
 Are you really not understanding the point? He's accused of hair sniffing so I posted a recent image of him consoling a young, mentally impaired man who lost his son at a parkland. This was to show that Joe's history of hugging is not about young girls, women etc. Unless you think he's really trying to sniff the young man's hair too. Hence the image. It's neither irrelevant nor cheap, compared to the smear against Joe, baselessly accusing him if being a pervert.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Sure: Your post was the cheapest post in the thread (my opinion)mrussel1 said:
 I don't even know what you're trying to say. How about trying to write it again in proper syntax? And your definition of 'factual' conflicts with the actual definition of 'opinion'. Is this an ESL thing? I'll cut you some slack on that then. I don't have time for your bullshit today, so if you want to give it another shot, go ahead. Otherwise, you can stop supporting smears.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 What has that to do with your post written and posted. Nothing. So, yes cheap. My retort was cleareyed and factual.mrussel1 said:
 Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort. I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.Spiritual_Chaos said:
 This is the cheapest post in the thread.mrussel1 said:
 Was he sniffing this kid's hair too? Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?OnWis97 said:benjs said:
 Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
 Trump's right about him being low energy. I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump.I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues." Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).Now? We simply need to stop the bleeding. Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now. 
 Sniffing hair =/= not actually having a heart
 And your included image comes off as cynical (as in cheap) -- what has it to do with Biden according to OnWIs97, hairsniffing.
 I have not supported any smear. I just responded to your post. Or do you believe I do not have a heart? 
 Got it?
 Here you have some simple math:
 Him hugging the father of a Parkland victim
 doesn't mean
 he can't sniff hair on other individuals
 See some other examples:
 Freddy Krueger crying when his daughter was born
 doesn't mean
 he can't go around killing teens in their dreams
 or
 Me listening to Riot Act
 doesn't mean
 Me not being able to listen to Backspacer
 But I will not further this conversation. Because last time Biden was discussed in a negative light I was defacto accused of being a russian asset working to undermine US democracy. So will not do that on here again.
 And again, my point in my post was not about Biden as a person -- but that your post. That in my opinion comes off as cheap/cynical as in writing in a dog in a movie to show that the lead character is compassionate.
 Had nothing to do with Joe Biden, my post. Just so people who is looking for a reason to ban me. reads it correctly.
 Thank you.
 Now off for a beer.
 Got it?0
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            BidenAnd I was kindly reminded that the young man lost his father in the shooting, not the son. I got myself mixed up.0
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            Bideninteresting and partially answers my question about eligible but non voting..
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            "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            I'm sitting this one outHow it must feel to get the question "Donald Trump says you got dementia, and it's getting worse?""Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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            BidenI thought both received tough questions...they both received tough criticisms to respond to (including Kamala), I saw VPJoe giving calm answers, and the monster just kept bristling and whining and complaining instead of explaining his policies. I guess the highly respected woman interviewer was just supposed to pay homage. Falling down,...not staying down0 Falling down,...not staying down0
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            ...Spiritual_Chaos said:
 Someone who posted 17,776 times how Bernie was the one for the job because he’d bring progressive policies posts a tweet like this.
 If I thought Russian bots would spend $20 for a PJ membership I’d think that. Otherwise posting trumps nonsense makes no sense.0
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            BidenGood thing we are getting close. The going is getting weird.___________________________________________
 "...I changed by not changing at all..."0
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            “Getting” weird? Just look at this place alone :rofl:
 We’ve been there for quite awhile now.AND PLEASE NO NEWSOM. For the love of all things good and honest and not smarmy and pandering, NOT HIM.0
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