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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,359
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
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    2013 Wrigley     2014 St. Paul     2016 Fenway, Fenway, Wrigley, Wrigley     2018 Missoula, Wrigley, Wrigley     2021 Asbury Park     2022 St Louis     2023 Austin, Austin
    2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    edited October 2020
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)

    Yeah. Has anyone ever chosen not to run for a second term?* It would be an odd look. Then, if Harris ran, the accusations of "setting it for her" would look true (but who cares? Unless one is put off that she's a woman of color). Or that it's an admission of failure. Of course the hope is that we'll have the GOP by then (as opposed to the GQP / Party of Trump) but I think that's a long shot.

    *Through FDR, there were no term limits so maybe someone (including FDR) decided not to run for a third term.
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    2024 Napa, Wrigley, Wrigley
  • OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)

    Yeah. Has anyone ever chosen not to run for a second term?* It would be an odd look. Then, if Harris ran, the accusations of "setting it for her" would look true (but who cares? Unless one is put off that she's a woman of color). Or that it's an admission of failure. Of course the hope is that we'll have the GOP by then (as opposed to the GQP / Party of Trump) but I think that's a long shot.

    *Through FDR, there were no term limits so maybe someone (including FDR) decided not to run for a third term.
    LBJ was eligible but declined to run for a full, 2nd term. Vietnam War took its toll.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    The sniffing hair thing is a fucking smear.  Might as well tell him stop taking millions from China.  It's the same category.  
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Was he sniffing this kid's hair too?  Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?




  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
    Unless there was a health reason, then no he shouldn't. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,031
    Biden
    i like presidents that are not afraid of journalists.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Was he sniffing this kid's hair too?  Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?





    I actually do believe he has a heart.  He remind me of an uncle that I have that's a bit touchy-feely. He really means no harm but he also doesn't see how it comes off.  He means well.  Joe seems to struggle in similar ways. It hasn't served him well.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
    Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.
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    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Was he sniffing this kid's hair too?  Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?





    I actually do believe he has a heart.  He remind me of an uncle that I have that's a bit touchy-feely. He really means no harm but he also doesn't see how it comes off.  He means well.  Joe seems to struggle in similar ways. It hasn't served him well.
    He's the odds on favorite to win the presidency in 8 days...
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Was he sniffing this kid's hair too?  Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?




    This is the cheapest post in the thread.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
    Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.

    The party doesn't seem to have a very deep bench.  I would predict her at this point. But ultimately, it would probably depend on how well the country is doing. If we've come back from Covid and its impacts and the feelings about the administration are positive, she might be the candidate. If things are still messed up, hopefully both parties start over a bit (i.e., Dems get a fresh fase and GOP stops being the Party of Trump).
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
    Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.
    So, a VP isn't a shoe in for the nomination? 


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Was he sniffing this kid's hair too?  Just curious. Or is it just impossible for you to believe that he actually has a heart?




    This is the cheapest post in the thread.
    Well you've matched it with the cheapest retort.  I'm not the one that accused him of being a pervert, baselessly.  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    benjs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I don't like Joe taking a day off 8 days before the election

    Trump's right about him being low energy.  I did not really vote for Joe...I voted against Trump. 
    Doesn’t matter. You did the right thing for democracy.

    I know...and I historically have liked Joe (but geez man, stop sniffing hair) back when he was sharp. It's not his ideas (I think he's evolved from his crime bill days) that concern me, but his ability to do what is not a 9-5 job. We vote far too much on "issues."  Issues aside, it was obvious that Trump was unfit the moment he opened his mouth as a candidate (and before that for those that followed him).

    Now?  We simply need to stop the bleeding.  Trump works 20 minutes a day; Biden will work more. More importantly will be the people that surround him; the nepotism, the rewarding of unqualified donors, the Russian mob connections. We need that gone, now.
    Joe will do just fine...not sure about that 2nd term though.  We might be setting ourselves up for a rough ride in 2024 (if he decides not to run again)
    Shouldn't he leave after 3 years then to give Kamala a headstart into the election and voters being used to seeing her as president?

    Strategy wise.
    Not in my opinion...I just don't see Harris being at the top of the ticket then.  Maybe I'm wrong.  I guess I don't know who would replace her other than someone like Gavin Newsome or Cuomo.
    PETE!