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I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently? All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.
Im not saying turnout won’t be higher. But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish. There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person. So, that’s good too.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
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i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early.EdsonNascimento said:I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently? All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.
Im not saying turnout won’t be higher. But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish. There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person. So, that’s good too.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
BidenEarly voting isn't new though...so if current tallies exceed prior figures that would suggest an increase in turnout.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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i'm sure there's an increase....just saying the way it's being framed is out of context with the pandemic and potential voter intimidation as mitigating factors.Gern Blansten said:Early voting isn't new though...so if current tallies exceed prior figures that would suggest an increase in turnout.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
If this doesn’t make your skin crawl and your hair stand up, there’s something seriously wrong with you.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/25/deep-down-terrified-little-boy-bob-woodward-mary-trump-john-bolton-anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trump
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Predicted record voter turnout is based on polling of enthusiasm. Can't find the article about it, but I think I posted a 538 link in the 538 thread.HughFreakingDillon said:
i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early.EdsonNascimento said:I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently? All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.
Im not saying turnout won’t be higher. But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish. There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person. So, that’s good too.0 -
The enabler GOP are to blame!Halifax2TheMax said:If this doesn’t make your skin crawl and your hair stand up, there’s something seriously wrong with you.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/25/deep-down-terrified-little-boy-bob-woodward-mary-trump-john-bolton-anthony-scaramucci-on-donald-trumpjesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early.EdsonNascimento said:I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently? All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.
Im not saying turnout won’t be higher. But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish. There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person. So, that’s good too.Shorter lines on Election Day can increase turn out a lot, especially in cities that spend less on election resources and have fewer polling places with long lines in the past (Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, etc). Workers in years past leaving their jobs hungry at 5pm drive by the polling place and see very long lines drive straight home and do not vote.
Also working from home could help increase turnout, less time commuting = more time to vote.0 -
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Interesting points. I believe COVID is the sole reason for the huge rise in early voting, but if semi-likely voters become aware of minimal crowds, maybe that gets som extras out.Lerxst1992 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
i've been wondering this too. there's absolutely no way to tell if this means voting will smash records after all is tallied up. it could just mean people are expecting longer lines on nov 3 and are choosing to vote early.EdsonNascimento said:I think what’s yet to be seen is are these new voters or just people voting early/differently? All these breathless - more people already voted than voted for either candidate in 2016 may not actually mean anything other than lines will be much shorter on Election Day.
Im not saying turnout won’t be higher. But, extrapolating early voting to the ultimate number is foolish. There’s no precedent or model that would help anyone accurately predict that.It’s great people are voting. And it sounds like despite concerns, covid really hasn’t created a problem in person. So, that’s good too.Shorter lines on Election Day can increase turn out a lot, especially in cities that spend less on election resources and have fewer polling places with long lines in the past (Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, etc). Workers in years past leaving their jobs hungry at 5pm drive by the polling place and see very long lines drive straight home and do not vote.
Also working from home could help increase turnout, less time commuting = more time to vote.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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BidenVoting in 18 spiked dramatically. That, plus the early voting numbers is part of the hypothesis.0
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BidenGood news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.Scio me nihil scire
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Of course. They told us they were going to do this and they did it right out in the open. Full transparency. We’ve become a banana republic. We’d be better run by Borat.cutz said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels. I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment. I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.mcgruff10 said:
I can’t believe that. Texas?!?! Wowstatic111 said:Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.Scio me nihil scire
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As I’ve said before - I know Biden is going to win.static111 said:
There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels. I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment. I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.mcgruff10 said:
I can’t believe that. Texas?!?! Wowstatic111 said:Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
but you really think a 45-50 yo who’s only experience is working in the oil industry and his/her family care what our energy looks like in 20 years? Lol.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
It’s also within the MOE and the poll asked about gun ownership and amongst those, sleepy Woke joe basement Biden was down bigly, like 56% to 37%. Doesn’t everyone in Tejas own 3 guns?static111 said:
There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels. I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment. I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.mcgruff10 said:
I can’t believe that. Texas?!?! Wowstatic111 said:Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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0 in our apartmentHalifax2TheMax said:
It’s also within the MOE and the poll asked about gun ownership and amongst those, sleepy Woke joe basement Biden was down bigly, like 56% to 37%. Doesn’t everyone in Tejas own 3 guns?static111 said:
There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels. I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment. I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.mcgruff10 said:
I can’t believe that. Texas?!?! Wowstatic111 said:Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.Scio me nihil scire
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To be fair, are those the people whose hearts are broken and they need to throw out their Biden apparel because of that comment?EdsonNascimento said:
As I’ve said before - I know Biden is going to win.static111 said:
There is one caveat and that is that the poll was taken the day before Biden said something about transitioning from fossil fuels. I am not as worried as some people about the fossil fuels comment. I think most people, even those in the energy sector realize that global warming and pollution are actual issues that need solving.mcgruff10 said:
I can’t believe that. Texas?!?! Wowstatic111 said:Good news in Texas, Dallas Morning news Poll shows Biden leading Texas 48 to 45...let’s hope this lasts up to Election Day.
but you really think a 45-50 yo who’s only experience is working in the oil industry and his/her family care what our energy looks like in 20 years? Lol.0
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