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And that bothers you?Ledbetterman10 said:
Well Donald J. Trump had the power to appoint three people to the Supreme Court for the rest of their lives. Should I go on?Halifax2TheMax said:
Why?Ledbetterman10 said:
Some sort of limit. Lifetime appointment is ridiculous.mickeyrat said:personally I think scotus should be even number. where its a tie lower court ruling holds for that narrow scope.to get a majority should require effort.then 16 yr term limit. rotate off every 2 years09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Dude busted a blood vessel in his eye...is that a sign of Covid?
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Bidenpence just could not stop at the red lights. he blew through the moderator on every single question. he did not once stop when his time was up.
this debate did not help trump any. harris did a good job with the negligence on covid, how trump inherited obama/biden economy and ruined it, how trump called dead soldiers and mccain losers, and defending her own record as a prosecutor.
i followed along on twitter and i think harris may have resonated with women more because pence kept talking over her. the same way most women have experienced a lesser qualified man doing that to them at some point in their career. the misogyny was resonating during the live tweet."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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you ever see gangs of new york? bill the butcher's glass eye? that is what pence's eye reminded me of.wndowpayne said:Dude busted a blood vessel in his eye...is that a sign of Covid?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.0 -
BidenI’m seeing a lot of Biden ads in Virginia, where he is probably up 10 points. He must have money to burn.0
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I disagreemace1229 said:
Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.0 -
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Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.
Harris wins tonight because she had better answers for the issues people care most about: covid, economy and healthcare. Nothing else matters much. And she didn't make any major gaffes. Prevent defense mode.
I thought Pence was really annoying just disregarded the rules...not to the blatant extent his boss did last week but still in an obvious way. I think it turns off the majority of voters. They need to be able to cut mic's or something.
Either way--this will be forgotten by noon tomorrow after Trump says or tweets something ridiculous. Advantage: America.
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Yeesh. Not how I saw that at all.OnWis97 said:Pence did better on Covid (though they both sucked). Pence dominated on taxes. Pence spoke well to people that don’t want to make sacrifices for the environment.
I’d say Pence is a bit worse on pushing deadlines and interruptions. But he’s otherwise winning.www.myspace.com0 -
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Yeah, at least to the point I’ve watched, I was just commenting on the interrupting, not who’s winning or has better answer. I said I’ve only seen about half so far so unless it got worse later on.The Juggler said:
Seriously?mace1229 said:
Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.
Harris wins tonight because she had better answers for the issues people care most about: covid, economy and healthcare. Nothing else matters much.
I thought Pence was really annoying just disregarded the rules...not to the blatant extent his boss did last week but still in an obvious way. I think it turns off the majority of voters. They need to be able to cut mic's or something.
There has been minimal interruptions, and the run on answers have been about 10 seconds. Which seems reasonable. Tell them times up and give them 10 seconds to finish, not a constant “thank thank, thank you, thank you.....”
As far as interrupting each other, they both have. But just a few times. Harris seems to have been coached to draw intention to it. Pence can just say “not true” while Harris is talking and leave it at that and Harris will stop her point and say “I’m speaking right now. Please stop and respect my speaking.”
Harris will interrupt Pence, but he just keeps talking like a normal person. Not trying to talk down to someone as if they’re 3 years old. That’s more annoying that Pence taking an extra 10 seconds, which Harris is doing too.0 -
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Pence clearly went over his time and interrupted way more than Harris.mace1229 said:
Yeah, at least to the point I’ve watched, I was just commenting on the interrupting, not who’s winning or has better answer. I said I’ve only seen about half so far so unless it got worse later on.The Juggler said:
Seriously?mace1229 said:
Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.
Harris wins tonight because she had better answers for the issues people care most about: covid, economy and healthcare. Nothing else matters much.
I thought Pence was really annoying just disregarded the rules...not to the blatant extent his boss did last week but still in an obvious way. I think it turns off the majority of voters. They need to be able to cut mic's or something.
There has been minimal interruptions, and the run on answers have been about 10 seconds. Which seems reasonable. Tell them times up and give them 10 seconds to finish, not a constant “thank thank, thank you, thank you.....”
As far as interrupting each other, they both have. But just a few times. Harris seems to have been coached to draw intention to it. Pence can just say “not true” while Harris is talking and leave it at that and Harris will stop her point and say “I’m speaking right now. Please stop and respect my speaking.”
Harris will interrupt Pence, but he just keeps talking like a normal person. Not trying to talk down to someone as if they’re 3 years old. That’s more annoying that Pence taking an extra 10 seconds, which Harris is doing too.
And if Harris was coached on it, job well done. Everyone was turned off by it last week. She showed a lot of restraint tonight. And her "Excuse me, I'm talking" lines were solid.www.myspace.com0 -
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Oh man. I told my wife, Harris should've started her next answer by saying "Swine flu? Really Mr. Vice President?...." then simply move on to her topic. Would've emphasized how ridiculous the comparison was even more.Ledbetterman10 said:
I dunno. I’m biased cause I can’t stand Harris but even I can’t go as far as to say he’s dominating. He talks stoically so it sounds good, but he’s still full of shit. Bringing up swine-flu? Come on....OnWis97 said:Pence is dominating so far
Fucking swine flu. Trying to defend their response to covid by bringing up the fucking swine flu? haha.....that, folks, is a losing argument all day long.www.myspace.com0 -
They both went over their times on nearly every answer.The Juggler said:
Pence clearly went over his time and interrupted way more than Harris.mace1229 said:
Yeah, at least to the point I’ve watched, I was just commenting on the interrupting, not who’s winning or has better answer. I said I’ve only seen about half so far so unless it got worse later on.The Juggler said:
Seriously?mace1229 said:
Only about halfway through, recorded it and watching it later.RunIntoTheRain said:The interrupting and refusing to stop talking is annoying.
But so far there’s been very minimal interrupting. The refusing to stop taking is only annoying because of the moderator. You can’t expect people to stop mid sentence. Give them a 10 second warning or something. Instead she just repeats “please stop taking” over and over when they just need 5-10 seconds to finish a sentence. That’s what’s annoying. Just say “times up, finish your thought” and leave it for 10 seconds.
Harris wins tonight because she had better answers for the issues people care most about: covid, economy and healthcare. Nothing else matters much.
I thought Pence was really annoying just disregarded the rules...not to the blatant extent his boss did last week but still in an obvious way. I think it turns off the majority of voters. They need to be able to cut mic's or something.
There has been minimal interruptions, and the run on answers have been about 10 seconds. Which seems reasonable. Tell them times up and give them 10 seconds to finish, not a constant “thank thank, thank you, thank you.....”
As far as interrupting each other, they both have. But just a few times. Harris seems to have been coached to draw intention to it. Pence can just say “not true” while Harris is talking and leave it at that and Harris will stop her point and say “I’m speaking right now. Please stop and respect my speaking.”
Harris will interrupt Pence, but he just keeps talking like a normal person. Not trying to talk down to someone as if they’re 3 years old. That’s more annoying that Pence taking an extra 10 seconds, which Harris is doing too.
And if Harris was coached on it, job well done. Everyone was turned off by it last week. She showed a lot of restraint tonight. And her "Excuse me, I'm talking" lines were solid.
I just timed it for kicks. When moving into the last topic Susan stopped Harris and said time was up and moving on to the next topic. Harris just said no and she was going to make her point. So Susan says “ok, you get 30 seconds.” She spoke for 35 seconds uninterrupted before Susan said time was up, Harris again just said no and that she was going to finish. She spoke for another 55 seconds uninterrupted after that until she finished.No mention from Susan to stop, no constant “thank you” to get her to stop. Just let her talk for an extra 90 seconds after she was told her time was up with only 1 request to stop because she just told the moderator “no” when told her time was up.
Meanwhile Pence will get 10 “thank you Mr Pence” from Susan during his 10 seconds he goes over.0 -
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