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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    jerparker20 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I just hope Biden didn't catch it during the 88 minutes of ranting Trump did in that 90-minute debate.  Because Kamala gets destroyed by Trump or Pence. 
    Go watch footage of Harris during senate hearings. She has zero issues putting people to the fire and seems to have a good BS meter. Guarantee she makes Pence uncomfortable and on the ropes in their debate. 
    Oh yeah...this will be new territory for Pence.  Tim Kaine is no Kamala and Kamala is used to interrogating the shit out of people.

    It's going to be beautiful.
    She's going to demolish Pence.....if that debate even happens
    Pence will be more deliberate and effective at bringing up the further left positions that Harris staked out during her campaign.  She is far more vulnerable than Biden was to the "socialism" charges.  Harris will force Pence to defend Trump's actions and behaviors.  I think slight advantage Pence in this one.  
    Didn't see that coming out of you. 

    I just think she's sharper and quicker than he is.  True, Pence is above the "Trump Bar" but I don't think he has much personality and I think he'll wilt a bit if she gets pointed...her role will be to put him on the spot but don't do anything to get labeled in ways that women tend to get labeled ("nasty" or too emotional).

    As for those issues, they seem like a wash.  I think she'll be better-able to articulate why the "S" word isn't a big issue.  Not to mention that issues are hardly even important.
    Haha.. I'm not a shill.  It's just that Trump is so bad at communicating to anyone other than his base, that I see him as his own worst enemy.  Pence is more of a traditional politician and a professional.  Kamela has some vulnerabilities.  Pence does too though, particularly in his record as governor.  He hasn't exactly been pro minorities on crime and his mismanagement of the HIV outbreak in Indiana is appalling.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    i have a feeling harris will be more trump and pence will be more biden in this debate. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden drawing some distinctions in Grand Rapids just now. How to be presidential, you might say.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    WH knew Hicks was positive and Trump went to Jersey anyway.....

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    WH knew Hicks was positive and Trump went to Jersey anyway.....

    Gross negligence and incompetence. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden drawing some distinctions in Grand Rapids just now. How to be presidential, you might say.
    that was a great speech. he said he was praying for the first family. trump would have never said such a thing.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Biden
    Trump's being rushed to Walter Reed
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,104
    The Juggler said:
    Trump's being rushed to Walter Reed
    Pretty elaborate hoax.
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  • Lerxst1992
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    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    jerparker20 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I just hope Biden didn't catch it during the 88 minutes of ranting Trump did in that 90-minute debate.  Because Kamala gets destroyed by Trump or Pence. 
    Go watch footage of Harris during senate hearings. She has zero issues putting people to the fire and seems to have a good BS meter. Guarantee she makes Pence uncomfortable and on the ropes in their debate. 
    Oh yeah...this will be new territory for Pence.  Tim Kaine is no Kamala and Kamala is used to interrogating the shit out of people.

    It's going to be beautiful.
    She's going to demolish Pence.....if that debate even happens
    Pence will be more deliberate and effective at bringing up the further left positions that Harris staked out during her campaign.  She is far more vulnerable than Biden was to the "socialism" charges.  Harris will force Pence to defend Trump's actions and behaviors.  I think slight advantage Pence in this one.  
    Didn't see that coming out of you. 

    I just think she's sharper and quicker than he is.  True, Pence is above the "Trump Bar" but I don't think he has much personality and I think he'll wilt a bit if she gets pointed...her role will be to put him on the spot but don't do anything to get labeled in ways that women tend to get labeled ("nasty" or too emotional).

    As for those issues, they seem like a wash.  I think she'll be better-able to articulate why the "S" word isn't a big issue.  Not to mention that issues are hardly even important.
    Haha.. I'm not a shill.  It's just that Trump is so bad at communicating to anyone other than his base, that I see him as his own worst enemy.  Pence is more of a traditional politician and a professional.  Kamela has some vulnerabilities.  Pence does too though, particularly in his record as governor.  He hasn't exactly been pro minorities on crime and his mismanagement of the HIV outbreak in Indiana is appalling.  
    Although I do agree Harris has a terrible record on pot prosecutions, she is highly skilled at arguing a case. And she should prosecute Pence for covid "crimes" tuesday.

    One of the biggest criticisms against Republicans is they are complicit with alot of dangerous things trump says. Pence is suspect number one.

    She should prosecute Pence for the dangers his complicity is regarding covid. Over and over republicans are getting infected, yet they constantly ridicule mask wearing. Trump mocks Biden for wearing a mask and 2 days later trump is sick in bed lethargic with a low grade fever. And Pence says nothing...again.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,368
    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    Trump's being rushed to Walter Reed

    rushed? do me a favor? rest of us too. link an article when you post like this, will ya?

    you sorta give the impression he's on his deathbed...


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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    The Juggler said:
    Trump's being rushed to Walter Reed

    rushed? do me a favor? rest of us too. link an article when you post like this, will ya?

    you sorta give the impression he's on his deathbed...


    i love how the WH team keep trying to fool us into believing he's been working. that fuck doesn't work more than an hour a day. no way he was working today. 

    unless you call watching fox on a loop "working". 
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    I've seen some interesting speculation that if Trump were to die, all the Biden Republicans will go right to Pence.
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  • mace1229
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    yeah, the "rushed" comment was a bit much. But it does make me wonder, I don't see Trump going to the hospital unless it was necessary. He would want to play this down as much as possible, and going to the hospital for precaution is not accomplishing  that.
    Being worse off than he is saying he is and going to the hospital and playing it off as an abundance of caution is though. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    yeah, the "rushed" comment was a bit much. But it does make me wonder, I don't see Trump going to the hospital unless it was necessary. He would want to play this down as much as possible, and going to the hospital for precaution is not accomplishing  that.
    Being worse off than he is saying he is and going to the hospital and playing it off as an abundance of caution is though. 
    he is a known coward, though, so maybe that "trumps" his need to be seen as strong. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    yeah, the "rushed" comment was a bit much. But it does make me wonder, I don't see Trump going to the hospital unless it was necessary. He would want to play this down as much as possible, and going to the hospital for precaution is not accomplishing  that.
    Being worse off than he is saying he is and going to the hospital and playing it off as an abundance of caution is though. 
    he is a known coward, though, so maybe that "trumps" his need to be seen as strong. 
    He has symptoms and def not on a good lane with this virus I’d say this is serious! 
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Biden
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mickeyrat said:
    WH knew Hicks was positive and Trump went to Jersey anyway.....

    Gross negligence and incompetence. 

    and manslaughter-ish
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    jerparker20 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    I just hope Biden didn't catch it during the 88 minutes of ranting Trump did in that 90-minute debate.  Because Kamala gets destroyed by Trump or Pence. 
    Go watch footage of Harris during senate hearings. She has zero issues putting people to the fire and seems to have a good BS meter. Guarantee she makes Pence uncomfortable and on the ropes in their debate. 
    Oh yeah...this will be new territory for Pence.  Tim Kaine is no Kamala and Kamala is used to interrogating the shit out of people.

    It's going to be beautiful.
    She's going to demolish Pence.....if that debate even happens
    Pence will be more deliberate and effective at bringing up the further left positions that Harris staked out during her campaign.  She is far more vulnerable than Biden was to the "socialism" charges.  Harris will force Pence to defend Trump's actions and behaviors.  I think slight advantage Pence in this one.  
    you think? pence will be calm as a cucumber for sure, but i don't see him being that effective. 

    Yeah, probably, an I'm guessing he will be about as exciting as celery.
    Harris, on the other hand, will be more like a hot jalapeño- much more interesting and able to make an impression.

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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,574
    This day in history Covidiot mocked HClinton on having a pneumonia! I can’t bring myself to call him by his name sorry folks but I can’t and never will! 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,401
    Biden
    What a bunch of asshats. Of course Pence wants to sit and only be 7 feet apart. That whole administration was a public health risk even before they all started getting COVID.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/biden-campaign-vp-debate-safety-concerns-425485
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    why the hell would he want to sit??
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