Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
Okay, I'm just catching up here. But I think things look good. Biden won Nebraska's second district. He looks to have won WI and he is less than a % behind in Michigan with 36% of Wayne County (Detroit) to go. Those votes will be heavy Democratic. So if my estimation/memory is correct, Biden should get to 270 with Michigan locking in place. And it really should. Wayne is enormous and D.
No PA needed.
I would not call it "looking good". Should have been a landslide when the opponent is......... ....... ...... ..... .... ... .. . . Trump.
But looking like a not good looking win is quite possible.
Would be lovely if he wins a few of the swing states. And nice that he has gotten the most votes of any candidate in history.
He flipped Arizona and the Nebraska district. That's on top of the likely flips in WI and MI (although traditionally blue). NC is close. GA and TX were pipe dreams, which was my contention all along. But what is true is that he ran much, much stronger in most states than Clinton.
But he did run against a guy who said an idea would be to inject disinfectants to rid covid?
It's hard to underestimate the number of people in this country that ingest lies on a daily basis from right wing media. They are completely brainwashed. So you have this massive divide on what is truth vs what isn't.
Trump is 100% right. Again. He is winning so they stop the count. Never been like this on history. He called it a few weeks ago- he said if he was winning they’d play games or find a way to disrupt the election. Everyone called him names and insults as the left usually does but he was 100% right. Now we go to the courts.
If they don’t win, they want to eliminate electoral college. If they don’t win they want to pack the court. If they don’t win they won’t count any more votes. What the hell is wrong with the left, it’s the party of “I’m taking my ball and Then no one will be able to play!” Losers, man, just like trump said, just incredibly poor losers.
we knew they wouldn’t play fair, and something extremely shady is going down once again in loony lefty land
This is what 40% of America believes. So here's the absolute nightmare scenario:
Biden wins 270 to 268.
MAGA riots. And they don't just break window and burn buildings. They put bullets in people.
Barr and the party-loyalist courts get it reversed.
MAGA, bitches.
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If Biden got the most votes in history, does that mean Trump got second most? Trump got more votes than 2016 including more republicans votes. What a shithole country.
Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
It's absolutely on the voter. And it's partly educating themselves, but it's more about who they are. The shit Trump does? More features than bugs.
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Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
Everyone is responsible for their vote and its consequences, but if it weren't for the Murdochs this electorate would look a lot different. They created a monster. They are not entirely to blame, there are other factors, but Fox News is the biggest. And social media has not helped.
Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
I feel, as an outsider, that you also have turned politics into a team sports with derbys every 4 years. You don't give up your team no matter what shit heads play on the field. And being a democrat or a republican seems to be very ingrained in you. Team A and Team B.
But also, you are overwhelmingly democratic but has constructed a system to keep it even.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Yeah, that Trump could get the votes he did after the disastrous presidency he led is the big concern here. It isn't Biden or the Dems. Utter incompetence for four years and 200,000 dead, and Trump doesn't lose a vote. He may lose the election, but it doesn't look like he lost much support. The damage Fox News has done to this country cannot be overstated.
I put the onus on the voter. They have the ability to educate themselves and be aware of what is actually happening in this country and the world, but what we have been shown is that 70 million people only care about about themselves right now in this moment. They hear what they want and that's it.
I feel, as an outsider, that you also have turned politics into a team sports with derbys every 4 years. You don't give up your team no matter what shit heads play on the field. And being a democrat or a republican seems to be very ingrained in you. Team A and Team B.
But also, you are overwhelmingly democratic but has constructed a system to keep it even.
I hope the Republicans keep the Senate. I don’t want either party to control everything.
I usually dont. While it would be great theoretically to see all my progressive ideas slide through (there are many I strongly dislike too), it would create an even more violent swing and it would eventually swing the other way.
Maybe having it split can reel things in a bit toward the center and compromise? I know its asking for unicorns perhaps with McConnell.
If things hold up how they're looking, Biden winning the Presidency, Republicans holding the Senate, and drug prohibition being routed in ballot initiatives is about the best outcome I could have hoped for.
If you're a Democrat, stop blaming bogeyman and figure out how to appeal to voters. Cable news is filled with bullshit across the board - it's not the exclusive domain of Fox. Maybe this will finally spur Ds to have the honest post-mortem they never undertook after 2016. Or not. Who knows. Probably best to just keep scolding everyone who doesn't vote with you.
so seems WI and MI goes biden...so if he keeps nevada he get 270 and no need PA
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No matter who wins there is nothing for anyone to celebrate.
President Biden is worth celebrating. JCPOA, North Korea, Climate agreement, etc. There's a lot of things that can/can't happen regardless of the Senate.
If things hold up how they're looking, Biden winning the Presidency, Republicans holding the Senate, and drug prohibition being routed in ballot initiatives is about the best outcome I could have hoped for.
If you're a Democrat, stop blaming bogeyman and figure out how to appeal to voters. Cable news is filled with bullshit across the board - it's not the exclusive domain of Fox. Maybe this will finally spur Ds to have the honest post-mortem they never undertook after 2016. Or not. Who knows. Probably best to just keep scolding everyone who doesn't vote with you.
wait, you dont think that burning city centers while yelling 'defund the police' is a sound campaign strategy?
I will absolutely celebrate a Trump loss and I will never pretend a Mitch McConnell majority in the senate is a good thing. I have been an independent voter since January of 1994 and this election is the first time I can remember voting straight ticket for the Dems. It was the Republican party that drive me to that. Split party rule only works when we have two functioning parties. We don't have that right now and haven't for a while.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
- Biden wins 270 to 268.
- MAGA riots. And they don't just break window and burn buildings. They put bullets in people.
- Barr and the party-loyalist courts get it reversed.
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It's absolutely on the voter. And it's partly educating themselves, but it's more about who they are. The shit Trump does? More features than bugs.
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
But also, you are overwhelmingly democratic but has constructed a system to keep it even.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Biden: 2,518,923
Trump: 2,500,843
18,080
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I have a feeling the fight for the climate and other things will go smoother then.
Maybe having it split can reel things in a bit toward the center and compromise? I know its asking for unicorns perhaps with McConnell.
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
But not a full sixpack.
And just have Trump wither away for four years untill the next election
If you're a Democrat, stop blaming bogeyman and figure out how to appeal to voters. Cable news is filled with bullshit across the board - it's not the exclusive domain of Fox. Maybe this will finally spur Ds to have the honest post-mortem they never undertook after 2016. Or not. Who knows. Probably best to just keep scolding everyone who doesn't vote with you.
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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