Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • Biden
    I just wish these states that are still counting could've been like Florida and not waited to count mail-in votes. It was so predictable that Trump would be leading states like Pennsylvania by the end of the night (without the mail-ins all counted), would declare victory like an asshole, and will claim he was screwed if the total count shows Biden ahead. 

    Both campaigns anticipated this will be litigated and are prepared to go to court. Given Trump's recent history of representation (Cohen, Giuliani, and now Barr), I'd give the advantage to Biden. But of course, Trump has that ace-in-the-hole with conservative majority on the Supreme Court. 
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Biden
    JimmyV said:
    This is going to be one shit country to grow old in. 
     arent u old already?
    Lol, good one.

    Peace
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    When will this end? When will we know?  Too many days like yesterday feels like it might do me in.  How did we get here.  I want to be unconscious. 
    Systemic racism and disenfranchisement of poor
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    Why do people do this.  Dewey defeats Truman has taught us nothing.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,728
    Biden
    is that normal?  Like when both boxers walk around the ring looking like they won while waiting for the decision? 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    isn't pretty much everyone but trump saying that it's likely biden will win? and trump is basically saying it, calling it rigged and all that shit. 
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    Biden
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    I hate when people do this but I also rather this than Al Gore rushing out to concede. 
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Biden
    I STILL can't believe Trump won my state of FLORIDA. I think he did so from MOSTLY S. Florida from Hispanic Cuban and Latino vote.  I will have to deal with the Trumpers and huge trucks and flags throughout the rest of this year, they can be SO over the top.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,376
    isn't pretty much everyone but trump saying that it's likely biden will win? and trump is basically saying it, calling it rigged and all that shit. 
    A lot of people waking up are probably still thinking its Trump. We stayed up until midnight and most news channels were still acting like it was over for Biden.
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    Biden
    JimmyV said:
    This is going to be one shit country to grow old in. 
     arent u old already?
    True, there is that. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,536
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    g under p said:
    I STILL can't believe Trump won my state of FLORIDA. I think he did so from MOSTLY S. Florida from Hispanic Cuban and Latino vote.  I will have to deal with the Trumpers and huge trucks and flags throughout the rest of this year, they can be SO over the top.

    Peace
    Wasn't Florida always the least likely to flip out of the dream flippers?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    Biden
    g under p said:
    I STILL can't believe Trump won my state of FLORIDA. I think he did so from MOSTLY S. Florida from Hispanic Cuban and Latino vote.  I will have to deal with the Trumpers and huge trucks and flags throughout the rest of this year, they can be SO over the top.

    Peace
    Desantis and Rick Scott winning in a heavy blue year was the clue.  Your state is gone for the foreseeable future.  Also, the Cubans were moved by the heavy, heavy socialism ads on Spanish language radio in South Florida.
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,488
    I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    Why do people do this.  Dewey defeats Truman has taught us nothing.
    I think that's exactly what his campaign manager should be saying based on where things stand right now
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    Why do people do this.  Dewey defeats Truman has taught us nothing.
    I think that's exactly what his campaign manager should be saying based on where things stand right now
    Why does it matter at this point?  It's best to exude confidence if not to offset Trump's noise.  It's not like it's changing a vote on Nov 4.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,087
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    isn't pretty much everyone but trump saying that it's likely biden will win? and trump is basically saying it, calling it rigged and all that shit. 
    A lot of people waking up are probably still thinking its Trump. We stayed up until midnight and most news channels were still acting like it was over for Biden.

    I'm waking up thinking that.  And that's leaving be beyond depressed.  If all the news people are saying Trump won, how can that many ve wrong.  I just don't get it.

    I should probably stay off here.  I hate myself when I am feeling this negative.  I am very sorry for that.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,488
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    i do not want to get too far ahead of ourselves here, but the biden campaign manager has called getting to 270 a foregone conclusion


    Why do people do this.  Dewey defeats Truman has taught us nothing.
    I think that's exactly what his campaign manager should be saying based on where things stand right now
    Why does it matter at this point?  It's best to exude confidence if not to offset Trump's noise.  It's not like it's changing a vote on Nov 4.
    Yes, your second sentence exactly 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,536
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Seems USPS has failed to deliver a bunch of votes. What does that matter as long as they are correctly post/date marked?


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,820
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    isn't pretty much everyone but trump saying that it's likely biden will win? and trump is basically saying it, calling it rigged and all that shit. 
    A lot of people waking up are probably still thinking its Trump. We stayed up until midnight and most news channels were still acting like it was over for Biden.
    Huh, I went to bed at midnight and did not get the impression it was over or even close to over for Biden, nor was ABC or Fox reporting that. Everyone knew what votes were left and expected the shift to happen in the AM
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Biden
    g under p said:
    I STILL can't believe Trump won my state of FLORIDA. I think he did so from MOSTLY S. Florida from Hispanic Cuban and Latino vote.  I will have to deal with the Trumpers and huge trucks and flags throughout the rest of this year, they can be SO over the top.

    Peace
    Wasn't Florida always the least likely to flip out of the dream flippers?
    Yes that's true but because I live here in Palm Beach County same as Trump I wanted when I have to drive by Mar Lago and let out a big LOL.

    Nothing surprises me with elections here in FL. I so wanted him to lose this state supposedly Trump's new home state.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    Seems USPS has failed to deliver a bunch of votes. What does that matter as long as they are correctly post/date marked?


    i just read this. south florida. if these get counted could get interesting.

    need to haul dejoy into federal court right now.
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,183
    Biden
    Assuming this to be true given the makeup of the court bothers me much more than any confident outlook on reaching 270. 

    https://mobile.twitter.com/therecount/status/1324013040669462529
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,071
    Biden
    TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. and the cultists accuse democrats of cheating?
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,197
    Biden
    Seems USPS has failed to deliver a bunch of votes. What does that matter as long as they are correctly post/date marked?


    i just read this. south florida. if these get counted could get interesting.

    need to haul dejoy into federal court right now.
    What, I want to know more about this because they sure called FL rather quickly. 

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • I'm sitting this one out
    TWENTY SEVEN PERCENT. and the cultists accuse democrats of cheating?
    Maybe not.

    What this means is the stats might look worse than they actually are, because in some cases postal workers have, for example, been manually postmarking the ballots and then passing them off for local same-or-next-day delivery, resulting in the ballots never being scanned into the system in the first place. Other measures, like sending ballots to the sorting facility but then removing them from the mail stream after they've been scanned and postmarked, means they are manually bypassing the rest of the process for expedited delivery and are thus scanned in and never scanned out.

    https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dppad/why-the-post-offices-last-minute-ballot-crisis-isnt-as-dire-as-it-seems
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,151
    Biden
    I just wish these states that are still counting could've been like Florida and not waited to count mail-in votes. It was so predictable that Trump would be leading states like Pennsylvania by the end of the night (without the mail-ins all counted), would declare victory like an asshole, and will claim he was screwed if the total count shows Biden ahead. 

    Both campaigns anticipated this will be litigated and are prepared to go to court. Given Trump's recent history of representation (Cohen, Giuliani, and now Barr), I'd give the advantage to Biden. But of course, Trump has that ace-in-the-hole with conservative majority on the Supreme Court. 

    Most often, each state having it's own laws and regulations isn't a big deal.  But for the one national election, the 51 elections, each of which has it's own subtle (and sometimes not subtle) quirks comes off as odd.  Must look really strange to those from other countries.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,488
    I'm sitting this one out
    Don't go full Trump and start yelling about courts and fraud after seeing one tweet
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,730
    honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 
    I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,950
    Biden
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,687
    edited November 2020
    Biden
    Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.
    Why not?  You don't believe in states managing their own elections?  There have been multiple times in our history where counting went well past election day.  2000 comes to mind pretty quickly.
    And fuck the stupid "electorate".  That doubt is being sown by Trump, not by history..not by our founders....not by the laws.  
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