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The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson have absolutely nothing to do with their polling. That's why I'd be they probably spent zero time talking about how poorly Trump is doing in their polls.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson have absolutely nothing to do with their polling. That's why I'd be they probably spent zero time talking about how poorly Trump is doing in their polls.
And has been for 20, plus years. I used to watch it during the 2000 election season. The same two make clowns have been on the whole time and it's been awful the whole time, I assume (I've missed the last 19 years or so). Also Brian Kilmeade doesn't get the credit people like Tucker and Reilly get for being awful, but he deserves it.
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OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson have absolutely nothing to do with their polling. That's why I'd be they probably spent zero time talking about how poorly Trump is doing in their polls.
And has been for 20, plus years. I used to watch it during the 2000 election season. The same two make clowns have been on the whole time and it's been awful the whole time, I assume (I've missed the last 19 years or so). Also Brian Kilmeade doesn't get the credit people like Tucker and Reilly get for being awful, but he deserves it.
I'd take O'Reilly over tucker. And Hannity and Colmes at least pretended to show both points of viewwww.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:OnWis97 said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson have absolutely nothing to do with their polling. That's why I'd be they probably spent zero time talking about how poorly Trump is doing in their polls.
And has been for 20, plus years. I used to watch it during the 2000 election season. The same two make clowns have been on the whole time and it's been awful the whole time, I assume (I've missed the last 19 years or so). Also Brian Kilmeade doesn't get the credit people like Tucker and Reilly get for being awful, but he deserves it.
I'd take O'Reilly over tucker. And Hannity and Colmes at least pretended to show both points of view0 -
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OnWis97 said:I read one of those "liberal talking points" books by Al Franken and when he'd reference "Hannity and Colmes," the "Colmes" would be in a smaller font. That was a nice little touch of truth, I am sure (I never really watched that one).
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if they had that format now, Colmes would receive routine threats to his life.0
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Ledbetterman10 said:OnWis97 said:I read one of those "liberal talking points" books by Al Franken and when he'd reference "Hannity and Colmes," the "Colmes" would be in a smaller font. That was a nice little touch of truth, I am sure (I never really watched that one).
https://youtu.be/t_Nh5IGMo8g
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Gern Blansten said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:But, Fox polls are very biased to favor democrats. Now what one would expect, but that’s how 538 rates their polls
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mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with approximately 1000 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and is conducted under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) (formerly known as Anderson Robbins Research) and Shaw & Company Research (R). For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. When necessary, minor weights are applied to age, race, education and gender variables to bring the sample into conformity with the most reliable demographic profiles. Fox News polls are not weighted by political party. Results from Fox News polls before February 2011 were conducted by Opinion Dynamics Corp. Anderson Robbins Research changed its name to Beacon Research in 2019; the polling team is unchanged since 2011.Considering how polarized the electorate is, the following statement gives me pause relying on their polls
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Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with approximately 1000 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and is conducted under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) (formerly known as Anderson Robbins Research) and Shaw & Company Research (R). For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. When necessary, minor weights are applied to age, race, education and gender variables to bring the sample into conformity with the most reliable demographic profiles. Fox News polls are not weighted by political party. Results from Fox News polls before February 2011 were conducted by Opinion Dynamics Corp. Anderson Robbins Research changed its name to Beacon Research in 2019; the polling team is unchanged since 2011.Considering how polarized the electorate is, the following statement gives me pause relying on their polls
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mrussel1 said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:HughFreakingDillon said:The Juggler said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:Faux news is fudging the numbers toward Sleepy Woke Joe Basement Biden to energize the base and scare undecideds. Faux knows the deplorables only listen or watch faux.
i saw that nate rates is an A-, i'm just curious as to why one segment of their operation is tip top notch and the other is not.
The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with approximately 1000 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and is conducted under the joint direction of Beacon Research (D) (formerly known as Anderson Robbins Research) and Shaw & Company Research (R). For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. When necessary, minor weights are applied to age, race, education and gender variables to bring the sample into conformity with the most reliable demographic profiles. Fox News polls are not weighted by political party. Results from Fox News polls before February 2011 were conducted by Opinion Dynamics Corp. Anderson Robbins Research changed its name to Beacon Research in 2019; the polling team is unchanged since 2011.Considering how polarized the electorate is, the following statement gives me pause relying on their polls
” Fox News polls are not weighted by political party.”
According to Gallup, the average percent of people in this country who identify as Democrat is around +4% since the Corona Virus kicked into high gear in April (the latest one is +1 Dem). Scroll down further and you'll see Independents also lean more left. So, yeah...no surprise that Fox has a high rating. Thanks for bringing this up, Lerx:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
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Cook political report has an interesting tool where you can adjust turnout by demographic and see how that impacts electoral college.
It’s starts with trumps best demo, non college whites at 55% (Biden win w 307 electoral votes). Increasing that demo to 60% gets trump a win with about 280 EVs. 59% turnout, reduces it to 230 EVsI cant imagine a 1% turnout difference in trumps base nets a 50 EV difference, but it underscores how difficult a job pollsters have to get the polls accurate and account for even a tiny increase in trump base turnout. It ain’t helping my confidence with pollsters and if it’s this much of a difference 538 is really off their rockers w .77
HOW IT WORKS: Start with the results of the previous election, adjusted fordemographic change since 2016. Then, adjust the sliders below to see how shifts inturnout and support among five demographic groups could swing the Electoral CollegePost edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
mrussel1 said:dignin said:Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:78%. Now the highest percent 538 has given him since June...Nate is risking looking foolish. If he says 75 isn’t 100 two elections in a row he will be ridiculed. He has admitted he does not count court challenges and other election tricks in his odds which seems foolish given the constitution gives huge advantages to the incumbent in close elections, especially one willing to bend rules to maximize that advantage. Also considering the majority of swing state polling is within moe.
BtW Univ WI poll today has Biden up 4 with 4% undecided. Glancing at all the state polling this week it looks very similar to 2016. Even more so this week.
what?
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mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:dignin said:Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:78%. Now the highest percent 538 has given him since June...Nate is risking looking foolish. If he says 75 isn’t 100 two elections in a row he will be ridiculed. He has admitted he does not count court challenges and other election tricks in his odds which seems foolish given the constitution gives huge advantages to the incumbent in close elections, especially one willing to bend rules to maximize that advantage. Also considering the majority of swing state polling is within moe.
BtW Univ WI poll today has Biden up 4 with 4% undecided. Glancing at all the state polling this week it looks very similar to 2016. Even more so this week.
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mrussel1 said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:dignin said:Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:78%. Now the highest percent 538 has given him since June...Nate is risking looking foolish. If he says 75 isn’t 100 two elections in a row he will be ridiculed. He has admitted he does not count court challenges and other election tricks in his odds which seems foolish given the constitution gives huge advantages to the incumbent in close elections, especially one willing to bend rules to maximize that advantage. Also considering the majority of swing state polling is within moe.
BtW Univ WI poll today has Biden up 4 with 4% undecided. Glancing at all the state polling this week it looks very similar to 2016. Even more so this week.
what?
doesn't that arrive you right back at 75%?
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mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:dignin said:Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:78%. Now the highest percent 538 has given him since June...Nate is risking looking foolish. If he says 75 isn’t 100 two elections in a row he will be ridiculed. He has admitted he does not count court challenges and other election tricks in his odds which seems foolish given the constitution gives huge advantages to the incumbent in close elections, especially one willing to bend rules to maximize that advantage. Also considering the majority of swing state polling is within moe.
BtW Univ WI poll today has Biden up 4 with 4% undecided. Glancing at all the state polling this week it looks very similar to 2016. Even more so this week.
what?
doesn't that arrive you right back at 75%?
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