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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    OnWis97 said
    mickeyrat said:
    2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.

    showed a differentiation between the two of them.

    I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him."  Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.

    have now seen a 3rd around the pandemic
    The one played here in Virginia is the one  where he talks about his wife’s death and links it to healthcare.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    Biden
    Yep we've been getting bombarded by those in PA for a few weeks now. 
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478

    We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.


    The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.

    But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.

    That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.





    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/21/we-may-get-2008-level-turnout-among-young-voters-thats-bad-trump/
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    dignin said:

    We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.


    The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.

    But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.

    That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.





    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/21/we-may-get-2008-level-turnout-among-young-voters-thats-bad-trump/
    I've seen some encouraging signs of this with my 18-20 year old kids.  We know some kids whose parents are fairly rabid GOP yet cannot wait to vote for Biden.  Probably more of an anti-tRUmp vote but I'll take it.

    I added two Biden voters to the mix in my house...but we are in Indiana so it likely won't matter.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,055
    Biden
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Yeah and RBG might be a spark
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Yeah and RBG might be a spark
    Yes, Trump sees this as a lifeline, but it might create more of a wave.  
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,381
    Biden
    two ohio stops yesterday...


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    two ohio stops yesterday...


    Yeah, that type of rhetoric doesn't earn any new votes.  It's all preaching to the choir.  Let him go around and feed his ego, it's better for Biden. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    edited September 2020
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/797321/us-population-by-generation/
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    edited September 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 
    Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    Was Benjamin Button considered a Boomer or Millennial?
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 
    Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population. 
    lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,381
    Biden
    gen x
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    Was Benjamin Button considered a Boomer or Millennial?
    both. a boolennial. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    edited September 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 
    Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population. 
    lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
    That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 8-10%. 
    But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 
    Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population. 
    lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
    That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 10%. 
    But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize. 
    Don't forget about immigration when assessing population growth.  
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,832
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    dignin said:

    We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.


    The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.

    But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.

    That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.





    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/21/we-may-get-2008-level-turnout-among-young-voters-thats-bad-trump/
    I've seen some encouraging signs of this with my 18-20 year old kids.  We know some kids whose parents are fairly rabid GOP yet cannot wait to vote for Biden.  Probably more of an anti-tRUmp vote but I'll take it.

    I added two Biden voters to the mix in my house...but we are in Indiana so it likely won't matter.
    I wonder - with the pandemic and more college kids at home...if they are registered to vote at their home location, this likely means they are more likely to vote.  If they were registered in the college location (different state, but had established residency) I wonder if they vote?

    Seems to me kids being home from college means more college kids will vote.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    edited September 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    mace1229 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
    Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
    How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last. 
    Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population. 
    lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
    That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 10%. 
    But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize. 
    Don't forget about immigration when assessing population growth.  
    Yeah, but the US hit 250 million in the early 90s, 300 million mid 2000s, and currently 330 million. that's an increase of 80 million in less than 30 years. If half that was immigration that would still leave a 40 million increase due to births over the same time period. And that's an increase. For millennials to only be about 4% (or less than 3 million) higher than boomers, that means most of that increase was due to immigration and not our own population growth. Which I wouldn't have guessed, maybe would have put it at about equal. 
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