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  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    edited August 2020

    Canada has some delayed vaccine trials. China never shipped the item which is derived from embryonic kidneys. 


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  • cincybearcat
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    mace1229 said:
    i keep seeing schools opening. americans go to school starting in early august???
    A lot still start after Labor Day and go through mid-June. It’s a pretty wide range. I think many schools in NY and CA start much later. At least the ones I’m familiar with did.

    Ours starts in 2 weeks and we get out end of May.

    Bybthe way, that hallway is totally acceptable. Our Superintendent said social distancing only counts if you are closer than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Since passing periods are 5-6 minutes, social distancing is not needed.
    Fun.
    Well, it;s not just your superintendent.  Medical professionals define close contact with that same definition.  Still, that hallway is stupid.  

    Thankfully my daughter's school was going mandatory mask anyhow, and now Gov DeWine has made masks mandatory for all kids K-12 in school.  School hasn't started yet, so we will see how this all goes I guess.  


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,388
    edited August 2020

    By PAUL J. WEBER
    1 hour ago

    RIO GRANDE CITY, Texas (AP) — When labor pains signaled that Clarissa Muñoz was at last going to be a mom, she jumped in a car and headed two hours down the Texas border into one of the nation's most dire coronavirus hot spots.

    She went first to a hospital so desperate for help that nurses recently made 49 phone calls to find a bed 700 miles away to airlift a dying man with the virus. From there, she was taken to a bigger hospital by ambulance. Along the way, she passed a funeral home that typically handles 10 services a month but is up to nine a week. And when she finally arrived to give birth, she was blindsided by another complication: A test revealed that she too was infected.

    Hours later, Muñoz was granted just a few seconds to lay eyes, but no hands, on her first born, who was quickly whisked away


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    Tribe, economy, even cemeteries hurt as virus hits Choctaws
    By LEAH WILLINGHAM
    Today

    PHILADELPHIA, Miss. (AP) — When Sharon Taylor died of coronavirus, her family — standing apart, wearing masks — sang her favorite hymns at her graveside, next to a tiny headstone for her stillborn daughter, buried 26 years ago. Fresh flowers marked row after row of new graves. Holy Rosary is one of the only cemeteries in this Choctaw Indian family’s community, and it’s running out of space — a sign of the virus’s massive toll on the Choctaw people.

    As confirmed coronavirus cases skyrocket in Mississippi, the state’s only federally recognized American Indian tribe has been devastated. COVID-19 has ripped through Choctaw families, many of whom live together in multigenerational homes. Almost 10% of the tribe’s roughly 11,000 members have tested positive for the virus. More than 75 have died. The once-flourishing Choctaw economy is stagnant, as the tribal government put in place tighter restrictions than those imposed by the state.

    July brought a glimmer of hope, with some numbers dropping among Choctaws, but health officials worry that with cases rising elsewhere in the state, the reprieve is only temporary. On Friday, Mississippi recorded its highest single-day coronavirus-related fatality count, 52.


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  • benjs
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    mace1229 said:
    i keep seeing schools opening. americans go to school starting in early august???
    A lot still start after Labor Day and go through mid-June. It’s a pretty wide range. I think many schools in NY and CA start much later. At least the ones I’m familiar with did.

    Ours starts in 2 weeks and we get out end of May.

    Bybthe way, that hallway is totally acceptable. Our Superintendent said social distancing only counts if you are closer than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Since passing periods are 5-6 minutes, social distancing is not needed.
    Fun.
    Despite what your Superintendent says 'counts', your likelihood to contract CoVID is dependent on the number of CoVID particles in the air, and the amount of time you're exposed to them. Thus, risk is proportional to both the density of people (i.e. things like schools should be avoided) and the amount of time you're in a large group.

    Your superintendent should be fired and possibly arrested for reckless endangerment. Also, I'd like to seek a second opinion from either my gardener or lawyer.

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  • mace1229
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    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    i keep seeing schools opening. americans go to school starting in early august???
    A lot still start after Labor Day and go through mid-June. It’s a pretty wide range. I think many schools in NY and CA start much later. At least the ones I’m familiar with did.

    Ours starts in 2 weeks and we get out end of May.

    Bybthe way, that hallway is totally acceptable. Our Superintendent said social distancing only counts if you are closer than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Since passing periods are 5-6 minutes, social distancing is not needed.
    Fun.
    Despite what your Superintendent says 'counts', your likelihood to contract CoVID is dependent on the number of CoVID particles in the air, and the amount of time you're exposed to them. Thus, risk is proportional to both the density of people (i.e. things like schools should be avoided) and the amount of time you're in a large group.

    Your superintendent should be fired and possibly arrested for reckless endangerment. Also, I'd like to seek a second opinion from either my gardener or lawyer.

    I agree the density is a big part of it. The 15 minutes makes sense if you’re at a restaurant with limited capacity and the waitress comes by every few minutes.
    But at a school that is already over crowded, I’d say multiple the number of people by the time. 15 people for 1 minute = 15 minutes. But they don’t do that. 
    Our hallways were already shoulder to shoulder last year for passing period, it’s packed. Now this year we’ll be at about 40% because of kids electing to go online and the rest alternating every other day. But even at 40% it’s still going to be a crowded hallway.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • cutz
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    edited August 2020





        
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    2nd Grader Tested Positive for COVID-19 After First Day of School

    By Jeremy Jones @GAFollowers · On August 5, 2020

    A Georgia second grader tested positive for Covid-19 after attending the first day of school, the school district told CNN.

    Sixes Elementary in the Cherokee County School district began in-person classes on Monday. But by Tuesday, a classroom was temporarily closed for deep cleaning and the teacher and 20 other students had been asked to quarantine for two weeks after the second grader tested positive.

    Parents and officials have debated whether it is safe to send students back into classrooms as virus cases have surged across the country. While health experts are still investigating how children spread the virus, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci has emphasized that schools need to include safety in their reopening plans.




    Cherokee County recommends, but does not require, that children wear masks in school whenever social distancing is not possible, according to the school district’s reopening plan. The district would only require students to wear masks if there was a statewide mandate in place. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has fought mayors’ attempts to mandate mask use.

    Cases connected to schools have broken out in Georgia even as some schools opt for all-remote learning for the start of the year.

    Since Marietta City Schools began preplanning on July 27, five employees have tested positive and another is presumed positive, Jen Brock, the system’s executive director of communications told CNN.

    The employees work in the teaching, transportation and janitorial. The first day of school was Tuesday, but classes were all taught virtually, Brock said.

    Earlier this week, around 260 employees were reported to have either tested positive or been exposed in Georgia’s largest school district, Gwinnett County Public Schools.




    “As of last Thursday, we had approximately 260 employees who had been excluded from work due to a positive case or contact with a case,” GCPS spokeswoman Sloan Roach told CNN Sunday. “This number is fluid as we continue to have new reports and others who are returning to work,” she added.

    The district is set to reopen for online learning August 12.


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  • Smellyman
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    Staying out of that school seems like a good thing.  If I had kids they wouldn't be going to school.
  • cincybearcat
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    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    i keep seeing schools opening. americans go to school starting in early august???
    A lot still start after Labor Day and go through mid-June. It’s a pretty wide range. I think many schools in NY and CA start much later. At least the ones I’m familiar with did.

    Ours starts in 2 weeks and we get out end of May.

    Bybthe way, that hallway is totally acceptable. Our Superintendent said social distancing only counts if you are closer than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Since passing periods are 5-6 minutes, social distancing is not needed.
    Fun.
    Despite what your Superintendent says 'counts', your likelihood to contract CoVID is dependent on the number of CoVID particles in the air, and the amount of time you're exposed to them. Thus, risk is proportional to both the density of people (i.e. things like schools should be avoided) and the amount of time you're in a large group.

    Your superintendent should be fired and possibly arrested for reckless endangerment. Also, I'd like to seek a second opinion from either my gardener or lawyer.

    Right we should just fire all the superintendents trying time do their best and following medical guidelines the best they can. I mean they should be doctors after all. Pretty bad take Benjs.

    Yes covid is based on exposure. Time and dose. Certainly being around more people increase the risk, and if infected, increases the dose.  That hallway is ridiculous and they should pivot and figure something else out for sure. But to fire someone for stating the medical definition of exposure for covid is just dumb.


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  • g under p
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    That is just too sad that a 42 year teacher dies from Covid. Masks are NOT mandatory in the school so what do the administrators think students are going to do, most are NOT going to wear one. Hopefully most will wear one now that a teacher has died. 

    At this rate this country will NEVER get ahead of this virus. What is wrong with our leaders?

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  • Lerxst1992
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    benjs said:
    mace1229 said:
    i keep seeing schools opening. americans go to school starting in early august???
    A lot still start after Labor Day and go through mid-June. It’s a pretty wide range. I think many schools in NY and CA start much later. At least the ones I’m familiar with did.

    Ours starts in 2 weeks and we get out end of May.

    Bybthe way, that hallway is totally acceptable. Our Superintendent said social distancing only counts if you are closer than 6 feet for more than 15 minutes. Since passing periods are 5-6 minutes, social distancing is not needed.
    Fun.
    Despite what your Superintendent says 'counts', your likelihood to contract CoVID is dependent on the number of CoVID particles in the air, and the amount of time you're exposed to them. Thus, risk is proportional to both the density of people (i.e. things like schools should be avoided) and the amount of time you're in a large group.

    Your superintendent should be fired and possibly arrested for reckless endangerment. Also, I'd like to seek a second opinion from either my gardener or lawyer.

    Right we should just fire all the superintendents trying time do their best and following medical guidelines the best they can. I mean they should be doctors after all. Pretty bad take Benjs.

    Yes covid is based on exposure. Time and dose. Certainly being around more people increase the risk, and if infected, increases the dose.  That hallway is ridiculous and they should pivot and figure something else out for sure. But to fire someone for stating the medical definition of exposure for covid is just dumb.



    If that picture represents that superintendent doing their best, certainly they should be fired.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    on a personal note, i am hearing rumors from several of my hospitals that they may shut down elective surgeries again. the one hospital had a patient test positive that was supposed to have surgery 2 days ago, and the one that was supposed to go today tested positive yesterday. 

    this shit is hitting too close to home.
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    What’s the reason so many in the medical field have been laid off or had their position dissolved? I get why it was necessary at first with the limits on electives. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    DewieCox said:
    What’s the reason so many in the medical field have been laid off or had their position dissolved? I get why it was necessary at first with the limits on electives. 
    unfortunately in america medicine is all about money. with for profit insurance companies, the insurance companies need to hold on to as much money as possible. the price of technology is increasing. i know for me, research and development costs are sky high if we are to compete with the leaders in our field. as such, we have to price our items so that we make a little money off of each item. with insurance reimbursing hospitals and surgery centers less and less, these facilities are trying to save money as well. so what they end up doing is laying off staff because they just cannot stop doing surgeries because costs are increasing. the hospital ceo needs to make money, the doctors need to make money, so the easiest way for them to cut costs is to eliminate workers. there are enough young people who want to get into medicine and since they have less experience they get paid less. hospitals would rather let go of experienced staff, hire younger staff and make them do their job plus what the laid off person was doing, and pay them less money. it is all about the almighty dollar.

    i am in sales now, so fortunately i am making money for my company, which keeps me safe jobwise. i am worried about going into these facilities where there are known sick people and then me getting sick. it is not worth the risk to me.
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  • DewieCox
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    Got ya. Thought maybe there was more to it. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,071
    DewieCox said:
    Got ya. Thought maybe there was more to it. 
    it is all connected. hospitals make a lot of money on elective cases if their costs are not too high. if elective cases are shut down, that means the hospitals will have less revenue. if you have a lot of empty operating rooms you cannot keep OR staff working, you can't keep periop nursing staff working, you can't keep ancillary staff working, so they furlough them and then end up eliminating those positions when they discover that a skeleton crew can handle most of the old workflow. its pretty sad because the administration will never take a pay cut.
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