The coronavirus

mace1229

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sorry for a dumb question, I don't have time for keeping up with covid now when Neil Young is releasing new stuff on vinyl every week.

But my brother got a positive corona-test. My sister got positive for having antibodies. 

Can they now visit my mom on her birthday mid march? Or can you still carry the disease, even when "immune"/having had it?

I think there's still questions about catching or carrying the variants, even if you already tested positive.

oftenreading

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't know how the hell this happened, but in a matter of weeks we (low risk folks in Manitoba) went from being vaccinated september at the earliest/late year at the latest now to April or May of this year. 

J&J plus Pfizer and Moderna finally coming through with promised shipments. Not sure about your province but ours is spreading out the first dose which pushes that timeline up too. 

Good news about Manitoba (and, I assume NB?). BC says all adults who want to be vaccinated can be by July, by extending the time between first and second dose. I'm excited for spring and summer. 

I'm guessing that all the anti-Trudeauites who were hoping that the slow start to vaccination would bring down the liberal government are now grumbling under their breath  

cutz

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't know how the hell this happened, but in a matter of weeks we (low risk folks in Manitoba) went from being vaccinated september at the earliest/late year at the latest now to April or May of this year. 

J&J plus Pfizer and Moderna finally coming through with promised shipments. Not sure about your province but ours is spreading out the first dose which pushes that timeline up too. 

This is HELPS out too:
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-to-help-produce-johnson-barda-to-provide-merck-with-funding-to-expand-mercks-manufacturing-capacity-for-covid-19-vaccines-and-medicines/

Merck to Help Produce Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 Vaccine; BARDA to Provide Merck With Funding to Expand Merck’s Manufacturing Capacity for COVID-19 Vaccines and Medicines

March 2, 2021 4:30 pm EST

KENILWORTH, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Merck (NYSE:MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, announced today it has entered into multiple agreements to support efforts to expand manufacturing capacity and supply of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 medicines and vaccines. The Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), a division of the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response (ASPR) within the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), will provide Merck with funding of up to $268.8 million to adapt and make available a number of existing manufacturing facilities for the production of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines and medicines. Merck has also entered into agreements with Janssen Pharmaceuticals, Inc., one of the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, to support the manufacturing and supply of Johnson & Johnson’s SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccine. Merck will use its facilities in the United States to produce drug substance, formulate and fill vials of Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine.

“We are steadfast in our commitment to contribute to the global response to the pandemic as part of the remarkable efforts of the entire medical and scientific community,” said Mike Nally, executive vice president, Human Health at Merck. “This funding from BARDA will allow us to accelerate our efforts to scale up our manufacturing capacity to enable timely delivery of much needed medicines and vaccines for the pandemic.”

Under the terms of the BARDA agreement, Merck will adapt and make available some of the company’s existing manufacturing sites to accelerate manufacturing efforts for SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines and medicines. This funding is in addition to Merck’s continued investment in its global vaccines manufacturing network as part of its planned capital investments of more than $20 billion from 2020 through the end of 2024.

“At Merck, we have a rich legacy in vaccine manufacturing and look forward to combining our expertise with Johnson & Johnson to help increase supply and expand access to authorized SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines,” said Sanat Chattopadhyay, executive vice president and president, Merck Manufacturing Division.

Merck continues to be actively involved in discussions with governments, public health agencies, and other industry colleagues to identify additional areas of pandemic response where Merck can make a meaningful impact.

UtahBolt

Just got the J&J shot today.  So far so good...

Spunkie

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sorry for a dumb question, I don't have time for keeping up with covid now when Neil Young is releasing new stuff on vinyl every week.

But my brother got a positive corona-test. My sister got positive for having antibodies. 

Can they now visit my mom on her birthday mid march? Or can you still carry the disease, even when "immune"/having had it?

I'm with Mace on this one. I think (I read but don't recall where) a village in Africa that had a covid-19 rampage early on all got sick again with variants. 

Is Sweden not vaccinating her age group yet? Today, we started booking 90+ year old and 65+ Indigenous. I got my mom an appt and then cried relief that she made it thus far. 

I'm thinking about protesting and not taking the vaccine until other countries have had their elderly vaccinated first. Canada is pulling an American asshole move and taking care of our own first, too.

Oh ya, my kid wondered why we're wasting the vaccine on 90+ since they're gonna die like next year anyways. So I'm doing a stellar job on raising another sociopath.

Spiritual_Chaos

tish said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sorry for a dumb question, I don't have time for keeping up with covid now when Neil Young is releasing new stuff on vinyl every week.

But my brother got a positive corona-test. My sister got positive for having antibodies. 

Can they now visit my mom on her birthday mid march? Or can you still carry the disease, even when "immune"/having had it?

I'm with Mace on this one. I think (I read but don't recall where) a village in Africa that had a covid-19 rampage early on all got sick again with variants. 

Is Sweden not vaccinating her age group yet? Today, we started booking 90+ year old and 65+ Indigenous. I got my mom an appt and then cried relief that she made it thus far. 

I'm thinking about protesting and not taking the vaccine until other countries have had their elderly vaccinated first. Canada is pulling an American asshole move and taking care of our own first, too.

Oh ya, my kid wondered why we're wasting the vaccine on 90+ since they're gonna die like next year anyways. So I'm doing a stellar job on raising another sociopath.

Take the vaccin if you get the chance. 

My mom is only 63 years old. I don't know what group they are vaccinating right now, all I know is that it seems to be going slow.

23scidoo

Hahaha, why you deleting and why you post it first??



https://vk.com/video626942286_456239189

Meltdown99

https://www.680news.com/2021/03/08/pfizer-first-expected-vaccine-wouldnt-be-approved-in-canada-until-february/

He also says the National Advisory Committee on Immunization did not contact Pfizer before it recommended changing delaying the second dose from three weeks to four months after the first shot.

Pinnow says Pfizer recommends sticking to the 21-day dose and that there is no evidence how well one dose works more than two months away from getting it.

oftenreading

Meltdown99 said:

https://www.680news.com/2021/03/08/pfizer-first-expected-vaccine-wouldnt-be-approved-in-canada-until-february/

He also says the National Advisory Committee on Immunization did not contact Pfizer before it recommended changing delaying the second dose from three weeks to four months after the first shot.

Pinnow says Pfizer recommends sticking to the 21-day dose and that there is no evidence how well one dose works more than two months away from getting it.

Of course Pfizer recommends sticking to the 21 day schedule. They have to - that's the schedule that got regulatory approval, and that's the only schedule that they provided research on. The timing of the schedule in the Phase III studies was not based on scientific principles, it was based on expediency, so as to get the vaccine(s) approved and into use as soon as possible. It was probably the right thing to do, but there is sufficient evidence throughout immunology to suggest that this is an overly-short timeline for a second dose.

Immunity after 2 months seems to be holding fine so far. If it appears to drop at three months then the second dose schedule can be pulled back again. 

lastexitlondon

Infact I believe  I've read immunity  doesn't drop after 3 or 4 months. All good news for covering  large populations to a good level. 

oftenreading

lastexitlondon said:

Infact I believe  I've read immunity  doesn't drop after 3 or 4 months. All good news for covering  large populations to a good level. 

Rob, this is specifically referring to immunity after only one dose, not two. We don’t yet have data on longer term immunity after one dose of the mRNA vaccines since no jurisdiction has been doing that. We have to get the data to be certain but the weight of scientific info from other immunization suggest it should be fine. 

Weston1283

For the Massachusetts folks out there

Mass.gov added today to their travel order that “fully vaccinated individuals are exempt from travel restrictions, and do not need to quarantine or provide a negative COVID test when entering or returning to Massachusetts”

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I don't know how the hell this happened, but in a matter of weeks we (low risk folks in Manitoba) went from being vaccinated september at the earliest/late year at the latest now to April or May of this year. 

J&J plus Pfizer and Moderna finally coming through with promised shipments. Not sure about your province but ours is spreading out the first dose which pushes that timeline up too. 

yeah, I just didn't think the announcement of the J&J vaccine would move it up that much. 

brianlux

Got our first two Modernas yesterday.  Hoping #2 goes well.  Good to be half way there!

jpgoegel

Weston1283 said:

For the Massachusetts folks out there

Mass.gov added today to their travel order that “fully vaccinated individuals are exempt from travel restrictions, and do not need to quarantine or provide a negative COVID test when entering or returning to Massachusetts”

that's great!   can't wait to venture out of the state soon

Merkin Baller

Weston1283 said:

For the Massachusetts folks out there

Mass.gov added today to their travel order that “fully vaccinated individuals are exempt from travel restrictions, and do not need to quarantine or provide a negative COVID test when entering or returning to Massachusetts”

Got my first Moderna on Friday w/ my wife. 

Looking forward to getting up to Maine and seeing her folks (late) next month. 

lastexitlondon

brianlux said:

Got our first two Modernas yesterday.  Hoping #2 goes well.  Good to be half way there!

Greatest news brian

brianlux

lastexitlondon said:

brianlux said:

Got our first two Modernas yesterday.  Hoping #2 goes well.  Good to be half way there!

Greatest news brian

Thanks, Rob.  I have to admit I was skeptical both because the vaccines were rushed out and have not had enough time to prove lack of long-term effects, but having them will eventually help others to feel more comfortable about getting together again.  There are a few family members and friends of mine who would be very hesitant to visit with me in the not-to-distant future if I am not vaccinated.  And I'm older so if there's a chance it will keep me well, I figure, go for it.  And if the vacc really does mean nanobots are coursing through my veins and allowing A.I. to take over my body, well, what are you gonna do?! 

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

lastexitlondon said:

brianlux said:

Got our first two Modernas yesterday.  Hoping #2 goes well.  Good to be half way there!

Greatest news brian

Thanks, Rob.  I have to admit I was skeptical both because the vaccines were rushed out and have not had enough time to prove lack of long-term effects, but having them will eventually help others to feel more comfortable about getting together again.  There are a few family members and friends of mine who would be very hesitant to visit with me in the not-to-distant future if I am not vaccinated.  And I'm older so if there's a chance it will keep me well, I figure, go for it.  And if the vacc really does mean nanobots are coursing through my veins and allowing A.I. to take over my body, well, what are you gonna do?! 

long term effects of any vaccine has been pegged at roughly 40 or so days. volunteers were monitored long past that. 

nicknyr15

My father was easily able to get his first shot this past Saturday. Very happy for him. He’ll be 60 in a few weeks and his second shot is scheduled right on his birthday. I haven’t spent time with him
in over a year. I’ve seen him multiple times outside at a distance but I can’t wait to get quality time in again. 

Bentleyspop

Just got my Moderna shot!
An hour ago I was at work and got the call from a local health clinic. I had signed up on a wait list for when they had extra shots. My boss got her first shot here with no side effects. Hopefully I won't either.

oftenreading

Bentleyspop said:

Just got my Moderna shot!
An hour ago I was at work and got the call from a local health clinic. I had signed up on a wait list for when they had extra shots. My boss got her first shot here with no side effects. Hopefully I won't either.

Great news, and good luck! 

Weston1283

Bentleyspop said:

Just got my Moderna shot!
An hour ago I was at work and got the call from a local health clinic. I had signed up on a wait list for when they had extra shots. My boss got her first shot here with no side effects. Hopefully I won't either.

Awesome!  I have a few members who were lucky enough to get the end of the day phone call saying "we have extras" recently

lastexitlondon

Great to see .^^. 
This is how I got my first shot. Left overs.  Glad none is going to waste for us who want the vaccine. 

brianlux

This is a bit odd (maybe not?)-  my wife's arm got really sore today right after we got our first Moderna.  I felt nothing.  She also started feeling crumby and still has a sore arm.  I felt nothing for the first 6 hours or so but now it's starting to hit me- sore arm, lower back pain, low grade fever, blah feeling. 

I sometimes think I'm a bit dense.  Maybe it's just that I'm a bit slow!

lastexitlondon

That is perfectly  normal bri.
A good immune  response.  Its working. I had those  and more symptoms about 3am after having the shot at 2.30pm. My partner  didn't get a response  until a day later she has a thyroid disorder  everything is slower with her.  Pulse 49 ffs haha

brianlux

lastexitlondon said:

That is perfectly  normal bri.
A good immune  response.  Its working. I had those  and more symptoms about 3am after having the shot at 2.30pm. My partner  didn't get a response  until a day later she has a thyroid disorder  everything is slower with her.  Pulse 49 ffs haha

Good to know, Rob, thank you! I've had some really tremendously bad flu bugs in the past so anything that feels like "sick" get me concerned.  Knowing the way I feel is normal is reassuring! 

Weston1283

brianlux said:

lastexitlondon said:

That is perfectly  normal bri.
A good immune  response.  Its working. I had those  and more symptoms about 3am after having the shot at 2.30pm. My partner  didn't get a response  until a day later she has a thyroid disorder  everything is slower with her.  Pulse 49 ffs haha

Good to know, Rob, thank you! I've had some really tremendously bad flu bugs in the past so anything that feels like "sick" get me concerned.  Knowing the way I feel is normal is reassuring! 

I got pretty rocked between the 12-24 hour post injection time frame after the first Pfizer

oftenreading

oftenreading said:

lastexitlondon said:

Infact I believe  I've read immunity  doesn't drop after 3 or 4 months. All good news for covering  large populations to a good level. 

Rob, this is specifically referring to immunity after only one dose, not two. We don’t yet have data on longer term immunity after one dose of the mRNA vaccines since no jurisdiction has been doing that. We have to get the data to be certain but the weight of scientific info from other immunization suggest it should be fine. 

Sorry for quoting my post but I wanted to correct an error and no point in editing it back where no-one will see it.

Had a brain blurp yesterday when I wrote that. The UK has extended the dose interval up to 12 weeks, so there is preliminary data from that, though not the 16 weeks. I hope that BC and whichever other provinces in Canada that decide to extend the dosing interval to 16 weeks, have robust studies planned. This opportunity for study shouldn't be missed. 

brianlux

Weston1283 said:

brianlux said:

lastexitlondon said:

That is perfectly  normal bri.
A good immune  response.  Its working. I had those  and more symptoms about 3am after having the shot at 2.30pm. My partner  didn't get a response  until a day later she has a thyroid disorder  everything is slower with her.  Pulse 49 ffs haha

Good to know, Rob, thank you! I've had some really tremendously bad flu bugs in the past so anything that feels like "sick" get me concerned.  Knowing the way I feel is normal is reassuring! 

I got pretty rocked between the 12-24 hour post injection time frame after the first Pfizer

I hear you, Weston.  I'm getting my ass kicked down a couple flights on concrete stairs this morning from the first Moderna vacc.  Woke up feeling like death warmed over and lower back pain that had me moaning.  NOT looking forward to Moderna #2 (but will do it).