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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited July 2020
    DarthMaeglin said:
    RYME said:
    DarthMaeglin said:
    I wasn’t sure where to post this but given some of the back and forth here maybe this is the right place. It’s extremely rare I wake up and find myself agreeing with Margaret Atwood, lol, and I appreciate how the article (or the letter it reports about) puts the onus on both sides to back down and open their ears.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-free-speech-1.5641645
    I totally agree.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    Bentleyspop said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?


    Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132
    The only problem I have with this is the widespread destruction that has gone on without consequence. It doesn’t seem right to allow what has been allowed, then charge someone for painting over a mural. 
    If you’re going to press charges over this then police shouldn’t be told to stand down anytime they loot a store or paint BLM on the sidewalk without permission.
    And the hate crime sounds like a stretch. BLM stands for more than black lives, maybe they disagree with their stance to defund the police on a national level.
    I don’t think they should have painted over it either.  Give them a ticket and move on.
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    mace1229 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?


    Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132
    The only problem I have with this is the widespread destruction that has gone on without consequence. It doesn’t seem right to allow what has been allowed, then charge someone for painting over a mural. 
    Numerous people have been arrested and charged in relation to the arson/property damage committed in the unrest in the Twin Cities. Most on federal charges.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Bentleyspop said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?


    Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132
    Hate crime?  That's awful harsh.

    I might be one of the few that absolutely dislikes that street painting for BLM and think it promotes the graffiti and is just overall dumb.  I think the ladies painting over it are not right and should be charged as anyone painting on public property.

    That said, and I do not know the answer to it, what if any were the charges against protesters that spray painted things like "ACAB", etc?


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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    edited July 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?


    Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132
    Hate crime?  That's awful harsh.

    I might be one of the few that absolutely dislikes that street painting for BLM and think it promotes the graffiti and is just overall dumb.  I think the ladies painting over it are not right and should be charged as anyone painting on public property.

    That said, and I do not know the answer to it, what if any were the charges against protesters that spray painted things like "ACAB", etc?
    I think it's dumb too. There was a post in another thread of De Blasio helping put it down in NYC. Just a troll job of Trump. And I'm for trolling Trump because he's a troll himself, but De Blasio should worry about the spike in crime in NYC and not worry about pandering. 

    And speaking of graffiti...


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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    edited July 2020
    I say, down with all hate, racism, and reverse racism.  My aim is more aligned with "What's so funny about peace, love and understanding?"
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    edited July 2020
    Nothing is funny about it, it just doesn't work if you are black.
    (The system doesn't run on peace love and understanding)
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Nothing is funny about it, it just doesn't work if you are black.
    (The system doesn't run on peace love and understanding)

    I agree, I agree, and I agree. 
    It's still my aim: peace, love and understanding.  Can you dig it?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    jerparker20 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?


    Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132
    The only problem I have with this is the widespread destruction that has gone on without consequence. It doesn’t seem right to allow what has been allowed, then charge someone for painting over a mural. 
    Numerous people have been arrested and charged in relation to the arson/property damage committed in the unrest in the Twin Cities. Most on federal charges.
    Yes I know many have been arrested, but it appears far more we’re allowed to be destructive. Many police departments were instructed to stand down when looting began.
    Either way, being charged with a hate crime seems excessive. A citation and fine seems more appropriate. 
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,960
    brianlux said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Nothing is funny about it, it just doesn't work if you are black.
    (The system doesn't run on peace love and understanding)

    I agree, I agree, and I agree. 
    It's still my aim: peace, love and understanding.  Can you dig it?
    Of course - all admirable goals that would see us a much better world.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    F Me In The Brain said:
    brianlux said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    Nothing is funny about it, it just doesn't work if you are black.
    (The system doesn't run on peace love and understanding)

    I agree, I agree, and I agree. 
    It's still my aim: peace, love and understanding.  Can you dig it?
    Of course - all admirable goals that would see us a much better world.

    I keep trying, my friend.
    It's hard to be half peace maker/ half warrior.  I don't know WTF that makes me.  :lol: 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    edited July 2020
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
    I’m guessing all other types of protests are okay too?  I am really trying to understand the logic to this...
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
    I’m guessing all other types of protests are okay too?  I am really trying to understand the logic to this...
    Good luck. If you come across any logic, let me know. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
    I’m guessing all other types of protests are okay too?  I am really trying to understand the logic to this...
    Good luck. If you come across any logic, let me know. 
    The only logical conclusion I can come up with is “it’s about politics”.  If it’s truly unsafe for large gatherings to happen and he truly cares about black lives, then I would think there would be a little more discouraging of mass protests too.  
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,034
    I had to cancel my birthday party. Instead I’m protesting turning 40. I invited the same people to the protest. There will be cake for those who help protest my cause.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,014
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
    I’m guessing all other types of protests are okay too?  I am really trying to understand the logic to this...
    Good luck. If you come across any logic, let me know. 
    The only logical conclusion I can come up with is “it’s about politics”.  If it’s truly unsafe for large gatherings to happen and he truly cares about black lives, then I would think there would be a little more discouraging of mass protests too.  
    Yes, that's the correct answer. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    I had to cancel my birthday party. Instead I’m protesting turning 40. I invited the same people to the protest. There will be cake for those who help protest my cause.
    You’re good, don’t you know you cannot catch the rona if you are in a protest.  Evidently they are like magic immunity bubbles...
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,444
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    De Blasio has canceled all large gathering in NYC due to Covid-19....except for Black Lives Matter protests. Parades, festivals, etc. are all off until September 30th. But BLM protests, which aren't that dissimilar from parades/festivals from a gathering-of-people standpoint, can go on.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/10/bill-de-blasio-cancels-all-large-gatherings-except/
    I’m guessing all other types of protests are okay too?  I am really trying to understand the logic to this...
    Good luck. If you come across any logic, let me know. 
    Dumbest thing ever. Makes absolutely no sense. Even if he wants to cancel the protests, he can’t.  He’ll get canceled. Which wouldn’t be the worst thing. I cannot stand him. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Although I haven't done comprehensive research, from what I've read, I haven't seen any data showing increase in covid cases linked to the outdoor protests. Most pics I saw showed a lot of people wearing masks and keeping some distance, and in a protest you are not generally in close quarters with any one person for more than a few minutes, making your risk of exposure much less. 

    However, have definitely seen data suggesting increase in cases linked to big indoor events (I'm looking at you, Trump). Also increase in cases for some outdoor activities where people did not wear masks and were in very close quarters for lengthy periods of time. 

    So there's that, if anyone is actually looking for logic.
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