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Nah, I lived on SoCal for 20 years, I have heard Larry Elder more than I care to admit....and I was living with a libertarian / conservative viewpoint on many issues for much of that time.
Didn't take long did me to know when he was on and to avoid KABC at those times while in the car.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Do these black lives matter? Apparently not to Mayer Durkin who never bothered to call the boy's father.
But Donald Trump did it give the boy's father a call.
https://www.q13fox.com/news/father-of-19-year-old-killed-in-chop-says-he-got-condolence-call-from-president-trump-but-not-seattles-mayor
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Very sad for that boy and his family.
Has zero to do with BLM that Trump phoned the father.
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You dismiss stuff all the time because of the "left" side it is coming from. How are you in any position to tell people to not dismiss something just because you like it?RYME said:Try Listening to this guy for a few weeks. Expand your knowledge. Very down to earth very insightful. This is where i get most of my news from. Before you dismiss it because I like it give it a shot.
The Sage From South Central.
https://www.larryelder.com/Post edited by PJNB on0 -
I’ll pass on anyone that contributes to outlets like Epoch Times, a hard right publication that is low on facts and high on charged language.RYME said:Try Listening to this guy for a few weeks. Expand your knowledge. Very down to earth very insightful. This is where i get most of my news from. Before you dismiss it because I like it give it a shot.
The Sage From South Central.
https://www.larryelder.com/Scio me nihil scire
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How can they possibly know where most of the guns come from when most murders go unsolved? Just read this article where the close rate was the highest it’s been at 53%, some years they only close about 20% of the cases (many of those were from previous years, still only closed about 21% of murders for 2019).oftenreading said:
Actually, the mayor of Chicago is pretty active in discussions around gun control, but the majority of guns used in crime in Chicago come from out of state.Ledbetterman10 said:
Fair enough, and I'm not saying every shooting should be posted. But where's the criticism of the leaders of those violence cities? Shouldn't the mayor of Chicago be called upon to fight for gun reform more than anyone?tbergs said:
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...RYME said:
Ok stick your heads in the sand ostriches. You are a joke!F Me In The Brain said:Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy.
(A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments )
Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
How did the big cities run by democrates do this past weekend? NYC?> Chicago?> Atlanta,> Philadelphia>>>
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-gun-violence-2-children-among-several-killed-over-fourth-of-july-weekend/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bullet-strikes-nypd-patrol-vehicle-misses-officers-sitting-inside/2500243/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/chicago-shootings-july-4-weekend/index.html
And that increase of solving cases was credited to, you guessed it, expanding the police force and hiring more. But let’s defund them and get rid of bail and see how that does for the murder rate.0 -
mace1229 said:
How can they possibly know where most of the guns come from when most murders go unsolved? Just read this article where the close rate was the highest it’s been at 53%, some years they only close about 20% of the cases (many of those were from previous years, still only closed about 21% of murders for 2019).oftenreading said:
Actually, the mayor of Chicago is pretty active in discussions around gun control, but the majority of guns used in crime in Chicago come from out of state.Ledbetterman10 said:
Fair enough, and I'm not saying every shooting should be posted. But where's the criticism of the leaders of those violence cities? Shouldn't the mayor of Chicago be called upon to fight for gun reform more than anyone?tbergs said:
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...RYME said:
Ok stick your heads in the sand ostriches. You are a joke!F Me In The Brain said:Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy.
(A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments )
Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
How did the big cities run by democrates do this past weekend? NYC?> Chicago?> Atlanta,> Philadelphia>>>
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-gun-violence-2-children-among-several-killed-over-fourth-of-july-weekend/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bullet-strikes-nypd-patrol-vehicle-misses-officers-sitting-inside/2500243/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/chicago-shootings-july-4-weekend/index.html
And that increase of solving cases was credited to, you guessed it, expanding the police force and hiring more. But let’s defund them and get rid of bail and see how that does for the murder rate.
Gun crime is not synonymous with murder, and I specified gun crime. Obviously some of those guns are used in homicides, but others are used in other types of crimes, including assaults, threats, robbery, etc.
Here's the link to the Gun Trace Report of 2017:
https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/mayor/Press%20Room/Press%20Releases/2017/October/GTR2017.pdf
Here is a relevant section:
With consistent data trends now going back almost a decade, the majority of illegally used or possessed firearms recovered in Chicago are traced back to states with less regulation over firearms, such as Indiana and Mississippi: More than two of every five traceable crime guns recovered in Chicago originate with their first point of sale at an Illinois dealer. The remaining 60 percent of firearms come from out of state, with Indiana as the primary source for approximately one out of every five crime guns.
Pretty interesting reading overall. They name specific stores that have consistently been found to sell guns that end up being used in crimes.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
F Me In The Brain said:Very sad for that boy and his family.
Has zero to do with BLM that Trump phoned the father.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/teen-who-died-in-chop-shooting-wanted-to-be-loved-those-who-knew-him-recall/
Actually it has everything to with BLM. All black lives matter not just the ones that advance Marxism.
What spawned The Chop?
A few black lives were murdered in the Chop. What all happend inside chop that went unreported? Was it fellow comrades citizen of Chop who murdered these poor people?
Defund the police? For BLM?
https://youtu.be/AOOlOMLaFho
The false narritive that so many liberals buy into that Trump is somehow a racist. Every single f****** time Bernie Sanders opens his mouth the first thing out of his mouth every chance he gets is Trump is a racist.
the phone call was not a photo op or politically motivated he did it because he's a decent person and it does impact care about black lives.
This whole thing is a conjured up race war you know that. The compassionate and the tolerant leftist mayor of the city of Seattle couldn't be bothered to call the family of these victims? I thought the Chop was supposed to be the Summer of Love.
Leftism and the Truth cannot coexist.
You're so blinded by your hatred for Trump and average conservatives alike. Can't give him credit for one damn thing.
Believe it or not he is a real human being with a heart.
This has everything to do with the BLM and the gargantuan appetite for the lies that are out there. I'm sure most of you can't stand that Hannity guy either. The idea that we're all a bunch of white racist conservative Republicans out here is being squash on a daily basis. Name a Democrat who reached out to this man to expressed condolences? A senator? or A congress person from the state of Washington? How about Obama? or more importantly Joe Biden? How about Governor Jay Inslee? Already mentioned Seattle's mayor? What news outlets botherd to report on this? NBC? CBS ? ABC? MSNBC Hee Haw? Again which Black Lives matter to the left? Only the ones they can use to promote their agenda. This guy's kid did not get 4 funerals or barely a mention.
But Sean Hannity reached out and did a half hour non politically-motivated compassionate interview. Which most lefties will shrug off and claim because they think Sean Hannity is a racist white goof.
But the proof is in the pudding.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/horace-lorenzo-anderson-father-chop-shooting-victim
Who truly cares about black lives and who are full of it.
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I understand gun crime and murder are not the same. But if they can only solve less than 30% of their murders I’m guessing there’s probably even more unsolved gun crime than that.oftenreading said:mace1229 said:
How can they possibly know where most of the guns come from when most murders go unsolved? Just read this article where the close rate was the highest it’s been at 53%, some years they only close about 20% of the cases (many of those were from previous years, still only closed about 21% of murders for 2019).oftenreading said:
Actually, the mayor of Chicago is pretty active in discussions around gun control, but the majority of guns used in crime in Chicago come from out of state.Ledbetterman10 said:
Fair enough, and I'm not saying every shooting should be posted. But where's the criticism of the leaders of those violence cities? Shouldn't the mayor of Chicago be called upon to fight for gun reform more than anyone?tbergs said:
It would be a full time job for anyone to post all of the shootings that occur in this country daily. The gun violence thread exists because many refuse to acknowledge that we need to make a change to gun ownership and requirements of such in this country. Those articles only further exemplify why gun reform is needed.Ledbetterman10 said:
I wonder why these sort of shootings rarely get posted in the Gun Violence thread...RYME said:
Ok stick your heads in the sand ostriches. You are a joke!F Me In The Brain said:Yeah I watched that too....and it is the opinion of one random guy.
(A random guy who apparently has never heard of the Internal Affairs division already present in most major police departments )
Keep on educating.....
What a joke.
How did the big cities run by democrates do this past weekend? NYC?> Chicago?> Atlanta,> Philadelphia>>>
https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/chicago-gun-violence-2-children-among-several-killed-over-fourth-of-july-weekend/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bullet-strikes-nypd-patrol-vehicle-misses-officers-sitting-inside/2500243/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/05/us/chicago-shootings-july-4-weekend/index.html
And that increase of solving cases was credited to, you guessed it, expanding the police force and hiring more. But let’s defund them and get rid of bail and see how that does for the murder rate.
Gun crime is not synonymous with murder, and I specified gun crime. Obviously some of those guns are used in homicides, but others are used in other types of crimes, including assaults, threats, robbery, etc.
Here's the link to the Gun Trace Report of 2017:
https://www.chicago.gov/content/dam/city/depts/mayor/Press%20Room/Press%20Releases/2017/October/GTR2017.pdf
Here is a relevant section:
With consistent data trends now going back almost a decade, the majority of illegally used or possessed firearms recovered in Chicago are traced back to states with less regulation over firearms, such as Indiana and Mississippi: More than two of every five traceable crime guns recovered in Chicago originate with their first point of sale at an Illinois dealer. The remaining 60 percent of firearms come from out of state, with Indiana as the primary source for approximately one out of every five crime guns.
Pretty interesting reading overall. They name specific stores that have consistently been found to sell guns that end up being used in crimes.
Thanks for sharing. But Illinois still supplies 40% of the guns. The only anomaly looks like Indiana, they supply 20%. Every other state is 5% or less, which I would imagine is pretty normal.
I would think if more police is the reason they are now solving half the murders (which is still pathetic) as supposed to 20%, then more police are needed to improve even more and enforce gun laws and crack down on the gang violence which is the biggest factor of their problem.
I just don’t agree that Chicago’s gun problem is the results of other state’s gun laws. It’s a contributing factors, but not the biggest one.0 -
I wasn’t sure where to post this but given some of the back and forth here maybe this is the right place. It’s extremely rare I wake up and find myself agreeing with Margaret Atwood, lol, and I appreciate how the article (or the letter it reports about) puts the onus on both sides to back down and open their ears.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-free-speech-1.5641645
"The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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Have you met Trump? Seen his "decent person" act for yourself?RYME said:F Me In The Brain said:Very sad for that boy and his family.
Has zero to do with BLM that Trump phoned the father.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/teen-who-died-in-chop-shooting-wanted-to-be-loved-those-who-knew-him-recall/
Actually it has everything to with BLM. All black lives matter not just the ones that advance Marxism.
What spawned The Chop?
A few black lives were murdered in the Chop. What all happend inside chop that went unreported? Was it fellow comrades citizen of Chop who murdered these poor people?
Defund the police? For BLM?https://youtu.be/AOOlOMLaFho
The false narritive that so many liberals buy into that Trump is somehow a racist. Every single f****** time Bernie Sanders opens his mouth the first thing out of his mouth every chance he gets is Trump is a racist.
the phone call was not a photo op or politically motivated he did it because he's a decent person and it does impact care about black lives.
This whole thing is a conjured up race war you know that. The compassionate and the tolerant leftist mayor of the city of Seattle couldn't be bothered to call the family of these victims? I thought the Chop was supposed to be the Summer of Love.
Leftism and the Truth cannot coexist.
You're so blinded by your hatred for Trump and average conservatives alike. Can't give him credit for one damn thing.
Believe it or not he is a real human being with a heart.
This has everything to do with the BLM and the gargantuan appetite for the lies that are out there. I'm sure most of you can't stand that Hannity guy either. The idea that we're all a bunch of white racist conservative Republicans out here is being squash on a daily basis. Name a Democrat who reached out to this man to expressed condolences? A senator? or A congress person from the state of Washington? How about Obama? or more importantly Joe Biden? How about Governor Jay Inslee? Already mentioned Seattle's mayor? What news outlets botherd to report on this? NBC? CBS ? ABC? MSNBC Hee Haw? Again which Black Lives matter to the left? Only the ones they can use to promote their agenda. This guy's kid did not get 4 funerals or barely a mention.
But Sean Hannity reached out and did a half hour non politically-motivated compassionate interview. Which most lefties will shrug off and claim because they think Sean Hannity is a racist white goof.
But the proof is in the pudding.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/horace-lorenzo-anderson-father-chop-shooting-victim
Who truly cares about black lives and who are full of it.
I haven't but my wife worked for him on a number of productions.
What she saw, all those years ago, on multiple occasions was an awful person.
Conversely I have met Bernie Sanders on two occasions, and interviewed him once...in 1992. The second occasion was in a restaurant where he was at the table next to us in 2010 or 2011, cannot recall, and we spoke for a while as our dinner parties continued.
Super nice man. Genuine, interested, direct.
This conversation is silly to continue - you believe Trump is a decent person.
No common ground.
Black Lives Matter. The protesting should continue until there are changes.
Moron presidential statements about statues and how he is the greatest should not slow them down.
I hope people can find a way to protest safely.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132Bentleyspop said:What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?
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Bentleyspop said:
Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132Bentleyspop said:What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?
Were they just changing the yellow paint to black? LOL0 -
Bentleyspop said:
Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132Bentleyspop said:What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?Sorry to see this happen in Martinez- an otherwise cool little town on the shores of the Carquinez Strait in the Bay Area. Martinez is where John Muir lived from 1880 until the end of hos life in 1914 and his house there is a National Historic site:
I'm glad to hear those two were busted for painting over the approved BLM mural!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I totally agree.DarthMaeglin said:I wasn’t sure where to post this but given some of the back and forth here maybe this is the right place. It’s extremely rare I wake up and find myself agreeing with Margaret Atwood, lol, and I appreciate how the article (or the letter it reports about) puts the onus on both sides to back down and open their ears.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-free-speech-1.5641645
https://youtu.be/1Hhdj4snLCc
Culturally. Speaking, This is how it should and could be.
Chocolate & Vanilla Ice cream Twist out of the same machine pulled from the same handle, from the same compartment in the machine, poured into the same (1) happy container and enjoyed so happy together,, this is my utopia.
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HAHA, Yes they did. Still would see BLM on the street.PJNB said:Bentleyspop said:
Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132Bentleyspop said:What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?
Were they just changing the yellow paint to black? LOL
Cali ain't fucking around charging them with a hate crime.0 -
cutz said:
HAHA, Yes they did. Still would see BLM on the street.PJNB said:Bentleyspop said:
Two accused of painting over Black Lives Matter mural charged with hate crime in California. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/two-accused-painting-over-black-lives-matter-mural-charged-hate-n1233132Bentleyspop said:What did the so-called president say about defacing public property?
Were they just changing the yellow paint to black? LOL
Cali ain't fucking around charging them with a hate crime.
Weird- considering this happened in the Bay Area- if they thought they could do this without consequences. Even more strange when anyone, especially a Bay Area resident, calls racism a "leftist lie".
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Just moving this up the list because I think that this is super important.RYME said:
I totally agree.DarthMaeglin said:I wasn’t sure where to post this but given some of the back and forth here maybe this is the right place. It’s extremely rare I wake up and find myself agreeing with Margaret Atwood, lol, and I appreciate how the article (or the letter it reports about) puts the onus on both sides to back down and open their ears.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-free-speech-1.5641645https://youtu.be/1Hhdj4snLCc
Culturally. Speaking, This is how it should and could be.
Chocolate & Vanilla Ice cream Twist out of the same machine pulled from the same handle, from the same compartment in the machine, poured into the same (1) happy container and enjoyed so happy together,, this is my utopia.0 -
Look to the cookie!0
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I like your take, hope you won’t mind me adding that sometimes it can get a little messy (the swirl does overhang the cup, lol) which isn’t necessarily bad as long as we all do our part to clean up any mess.RYME said:
I totally agree.DarthMaeglin said:I wasn’t sure where to post this but given some of the back and forth here maybe this is the right place. It’s extremely rare I wake up and find myself agreeing with Margaret Atwood, lol, and I appreciate how the article (or the letter it reports about) puts the onus on both sides to back down and open their ears.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/writers-free-speech-1.5641645https://youtu.be/1Hhdj4snLCc
Culturally. Speaking, This is how it should and could be.
Chocolate & Vanilla Ice cream Twist out of the same machine pulled from the same handle, from the same compartment in the machine, poured into the same (1) happy container and enjoyed so happy together,, this is my utopia.
As an aside, I recently realized what a huge influence science fiction was in making me colour blind. If the cool space jockey’s best friend is a large dog-ape, why couldn’t the different-coloured kids down the street or at school be my friend? Star Trek had a similar effect, hell, I’m tempted to even throw in The Muppet Show along these lines, lol. To say nothing of the philosophy that scifi introduces (Asimov being a good example)."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 20220
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