Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    RYME said:
    benjs said:
    j1kotwic said:
    I will vote trump in 2020. It was a choice I thought long and hard about in 2016. He was my last choice of the Republican candidates.  But in the end, I thought he would take the country in a better direction than hillary. 

    I remember coming on here after he won the election in 2016 and I was insulted by many on here after I said I voted for Trump. Mainly I was called a racist. 

    Fast forward to now. Trump still can be a total jackass and I wonder what the hell he's thinking. Worse than I thought. Why he says the things he says.. some of it is nuts. And it really makes me wonder. Then sometimes he says things that make total sense and is exactly what I'm thinking. That's the part thats missing from the democrats. They never say anything that I agree with these days. It also doesnt help that the democrats have insulted everyone who voted for Trump - over and over again...Thats true for this forum too. All anyone has done on here is hurl insults at people who dont think like them. I stop by here every now and again, see if theres anyone around here that's thinking like I am.. post something like this, get insulted some more, come back on 8 to 12 months later and repeat. Why do I even bother?  Who knows. Pearl Jam is my favorite band. So maybe I prefer getting scolded by pearl jam fans as opposed to the general public? That must be it. I prefer to get scolded by people with good musical taste... so theres one thing we have in common. 
    You're welcome to stay away if you don't like being confronted with facts and asked to respond to them. It's not like you're enriching any conversations by telling us you'd vote the "sometimes-nuts" person in office over Biden, and providing zero initiatives that the Democrats have pursued that you have such vehement opposition to. Tell me what what you're so offended by that Democrats have taken strong stances on - the notion of equality? Of protecting freedom of speech? Combatting a troubling statistic of black men being murdered by police officers? Proposing mask-wearing during a pandemic?

    If these things offend you - I hope you enjoy the next Trump rally. 
    Benjs has always been the gate keeper at the 10C forum.  I have been chewed out a few times by comrade benjs, and have been told to leave. Suggesting that maybe I get new friends.
    Claiming that they here @ 10C are the enlightened Woke ones with compassion and 9 the fun facts of the day.
    Hey, j1kotwic my wife often asks me why I bother arguing with these people?
    I do it  to keep up with how wacky the left is getting,  and stupidity on my part.

    Stupidity's clearly the commonality with all of us, if I think I'm going to change your mind or vice-versa. I don't think we come from the same set of values, and that's a non-starter.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    benjs said:
    RYME said:
    benjs said:
    j1kotwic said:
    I will vote trump in 2020. It was a choice I thought long and hard about in 2016. He was my last choice of the Republican candidates.  But in the end, I thought he would take the country in a better direction than hillary. 

    I remember coming on here after he won the election in 2016 and I was insulted by many on here after I said I voted for Trump. Mainly I was called a racist. 

    Fast forward to now. Trump still can be a total jackass and I wonder what the hell he's thinking. Worse than I thought. Why he says the things he says.. some of it is nuts. And it really makes me wonder. Then sometimes he says things that make total sense and is exactly what I'm thinking. That's the part thats missing from the democrats. They never say anything that I agree with these days. It also doesnt help that the democrats have insulted everyone who voted for Trump - over and over again...Thats true for this forum too. All anyone has done on here is hurl insults at people who dont think like them. I stop by here every now and again, see if theres anyone around here that's thinking like I am.. post something like this, get insulted some more, come back on 8 to 12 months later and repeat. Why do I even bother?  Who knows. Pearl Jam is my favorite band. So maybe I prefer getting scolded by pearl jam fans as opposed to the general public? That must be it. I prefer to get scolded by people with good musical taste... so theres one thing we have in common. 
    You're welcome to stay away if you don't like being confronted with facts and asked to respond to them. It's not like you're enriching any conversations by telling us you'd vote the "sometimes-nuts" person in office over Biden, and providing zero initiatives that the Democrats have pursued that you have such vehement opposition to. Tell me what what you're so offended by that Democrats have taken strong stances on - the notion of equality? Of protecting freedom of speech? Combatting a troubling statistic of black men being murdered by police officers? Proposing mask-wearing during a pandemic?

    If these things offend you - I hope you enjoy the next Trump rally. 
    Benjs has always been the gate keeper at the 10C forum.  I have been chewed out a few times by comrade benjs, and have been told to leave. Suggesting that maybe I get new friends.
    Claiming that they here @ 10C are the enlightened Woke ones with compassion and 9 the fun facts of the day.
    Hey, j1kotwic my wife often asks me why I bother arguing with these people?
    I do it  to keep up with how wacky the left is getting,  and stupidity on my part.

    Stupidity's clearly the commonality with all of us, if I think I'm going to change your mind or vice-versa. I don't think we come from the same set of values, and that's a non-starter.
    What? You're not a fan of white nationalists?
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,076
    Total speculation to troll the libs and judge the lame stream media’s reaction. More likely that when the allegations in the indictments leak, coupled with poor polling and the realization that jail is a real possibility, resignation and pardon are the October surprise. The Deutch Bank loans are due in January 2021 and I don’t think they want to wait for a “go ahead and sue me,” in 2025 or have to file claims against a sitting POTUS in the interim.

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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,170
    Biden
    SOmewhere here I theorized this quite some time ago...he could drop out and still claim victory.  That allows him to claim that he decided not to run vs being rejected.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Biden
    RYME said:
    RYME said:
    benjs said:
    j1kotwic said:
    I will vote trump in 2020. It was a choice I thought long and hard about in 2016. He was my last choice of the Republican candidates.  But in the end, I thought he would take the country in a better direction than hillary. 

    I remember coming on here after he won the election in 2016 and I was insulted by many on here after I said I voted for Trump. Mainly I was called a racist. 

    Fast forward to now. Trump still can be a total jackass and I wonder what the hell he's thinking. Worse than I thought. Why he says the things he says.. some of it is nuts. And it really makes me wonder. Then sometimes he says things that make total sense and is exactly what I'm thinking. That's the part thats missing from the democrats. They never say anything that I agree with these days. It also doesnt help that the democrats have insulted everyone who voted for Trump - over and over again...Thats true for this forum too. All anyone has done on here is hurl insults at people who dont think like them. I stop by here every now and again, see if theres anyone around here that's thinking like I am.. post something like this, get insulted some more, come back on 8 to 12 months later and repeat. Why do I even bother?  Who knows. Pearl Jam is my favorite band. So maybe I prefer getting scolded by pearl jam fans as opposed to the general public? That must be it. I prefer to get scolded by people with good musical taste... so theres one thing we have in common. 
    You're welcome to stay away if you don't like being confronted with facts and asked to respond to them. It's not like you're enriching any conversations by telling us you'd vote the "sometimes-nuts" person in office over Biden, and providing zero initiatives that the Democrats have pursued that you have such vehement opposition to. Tell me what what you're so offended by that Democrats have taken strong stances on - the notion of equality? Of protecting freedom of speech? Combatting a troubling statistic of black men being murdered by police officers? Proposing mask-wearing during a pandemic?

    If these things offend you - I hope you enjoy the next Trump rally. 
    Benjs has always been the gate keeper at the 10C forum.  I have been chewed out a few times by comrade benjs, and have been told to leave. Suggesting that maybe I get new friends.
    Claiming that they here @ 10C are the enlightened Woke ones with compassion and 9 the fun facts of the day.
    Hey, j1kotwic my wife often asks me why I bother arguing with these people?
    I do it  to keep up with how wacky the left is getting,  and stupidity on my part.

    I often ask myself the same question.  The answer I usually come back to is that it really irks me to see falsehoods, lies and ignorance go unchallenged. 
    Facts met with whataboutism is the left's MO.   President Trump's 50+ accomplishments are met by that's an easy 5 minute search.  Ok what ever dudes.

    So ironic.  The right is living off of the whataboutism mantra.  They excuse every ridiculous thing Trump does with some sort of argument that the left did something similar in the past.    That is an argument a child makes.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  

    Hm.  She is a good pick in many ways, though I don't know a ton about her history.  This is the first I've heard her name.  The GOP was able to pull off "W was a war hero and Kerry was a traitor" shtick, despite what BS it was.  But that would be a lot more difficult this time.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  

    Hm.  She is a good pick in many ways, though I don't know a ton about her history.  This is the first I've heard her name.  The GOP was able to pull off "W was a war hero and Kerry was a traitor" shtick, despite what BS it was.  But that would be a lot more difficult this time.
    Well we know that junior senators from Illinois can be quite popular and successful in bigger jobs. 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Biden
    I really like Duckworth and I'd love to see her actively shredding Trump's pathetic little "tough guy" routine. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,844
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  

    Hm.  She is a good pick in many ways, though I don't know a ton about her history.  This is the first I've heard her name.  The GOP was able to pull off "W was a war hero and Kerry was a traitor" shtick, despite what BS it was.  But that would be a lot more difficult this time.
    Well we know that junior senators from Illinois can be quite popular and successful in bigger jobs. 


    I don’t know. He might be to blame for trump deciding to run with those jokes at the infamous White House Correspondents Dinner 

    https://youtu.be/zeGpLg0b3DE
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  

    Hm.  She is a good pick in many ways, though I don't know a ton about her history.  This is the first I've heard her name.  The GOP was able to pull off "W was a war hero and Kerry was a traitor" shtick, despite what BS it was.  But that would be a lot more difficult this time.
    Well we know that junior senators from Illinois can be quite popular and successful in bigger jobs. 


    I don’t know. He might be to blame for trump deciding to run with those jokes at the infamous White House Correspondents Dinner 

    https://youtu.be/zeGpLg0b3DE
    Ha, maybe.  But my bet is only one of them is getting an airport named for him. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,405
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So there's a push for Tammy Duckworth for VP.  She certainly checks many important boxes.  https://www.msn.com/en-ae/news/other/biden-e2-80-99s-best-vice-president-pick-is-obvious/ar-BB163Bs9

    She was born in Thailand, the daughter of an US Army solider.  I would love to hear the right wing screaming how she's not American, as she sits in her wheelchair, double amputee from a grievous combat injury and a Lt Col. pension.  

    Hm.  She is a good pick in many ways, though I don't know a ton about her history.  This is the first I've heard her name.  The GOP was able to pull off "W was a war hero and Kerry was a traitor" shtick, despite what BS it was.  But that would be a lot more difficult this time.
    Well we know that junior senators from Illinois can be quite popular and successful in bigger jobs. 


    I don’t know. He might be to blame for trump deciding to run with those jokes at the infamous White House Correspondents Dinner 

    https://youtu.be/zeGpLg0b3DE
    I miss that guy
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Biden
    Some trends are so positive in life. May it hold true in many places and even surpass expectations in November.


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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    Biden
    I just watched Joe Biden speaking in Deleware.  So impressive. His thoughtful, intelligent and respectful responses to questions. 
    The difference between him speaking and Trump is astounding. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,076
    I just watched Joe Biden speaking in Deleware.  So impressive. His thoughtful, intelligent and respectful responses to questions. 
    The difference between him speaking and Trump is astounding. 
    Are you sure he wasn't asleep?
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  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    Biden taking a perfectly rational line on the statues, drawing a distinction between flawed patriots and secessionist traitors.  I'm always aligned very well with how Biden thinks.  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/505271-bidengovernment-must-protect-monuments-to-washington-jefferson#comment-4974518676
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    I just watched Joe Biden speaking in Deleware.  So impressive. His thoughtful, intelligent and respectful responses to questions. 
    The difference between him speaking and Trump is astounding. 
    Yup. He looks and sounds like a real life president!

    I think they are handling his campaign well at the moment. Somebody said this on one of the cable networks--something to the effect of limiting his availability is helping because when he does come out and make a speech like this once, maybe twice a week it has more weight to it and the cable news networks will cover it live. It's just an enormous contrast to the nonsense coming out of Trump's mouth.

    I also LOVE that Trump is in a corner regarding the mask. Continue to not wear them and continue to look like an ignorant fool which the Biden campaign will rightfully continue to pounce on. Cave and start wearing them, Biden can claim victory there in helping to force the president's hand for the betterment of the country. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,170
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,523
    I'm sitting this one out
    This seems like bad news for the incumbent