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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,553
    Biden
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    We’re frogs in warm water.  I think this situation is much worse than we realize just because so much crazy shit has been normalized by the RNC and the Media.  The media if it is a true friend of the people needs to stop treating him with the respect of his office.  The time for that is over.  Respect is earned. He has had his time and we need more than just the prime time talking heads to be calling out the BS and calling it out hard.  Fascist, wanna be dictator, authoritarian, oligarch. All of these terms need to be heavily used.
    i think part of the problem with doing that is there would be a massive backlash that trump himself started. they'd be considered the left version of fox news. anderson cooper has done some of that from what i've seen, however. 
    I think we need to stop worrying about what republicans think.  The average Republican voter has to be ok with single party rule at this point.  I think the case needs to be made for people that don’t pay attention as closely as we do on AMT that this is the beginning of an attempted dictatorship. I mean they are still hollering that Joe Biden is a Radical leftist socialist lol they have zero regard for truthfulness. Why shouldn’t anyone be calling all of this out for what it is, and loudly?  
    I'm not saying worrying about what republicans think. i'm saying worrying about what moderates and undecideds think. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    SAD
    https://tvline.com/2020/08/28/tv-ratings-republican-convention-night-4-president-trump-speech/

    Ratings: Republican Convention Ends With No Trump Bump, Down vs. Night 3

    By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 28 2020, 8:25 AM PDT

    Ratings Republican Convention Trump Speech
    In the latest TV ratings, the 2020 Republican National Convention’s grand finale did not appear to enjoy any major Trump bumpon Thursday night, at least according to preliminary numbers.

    ABC, CBS and NBC’s combined coverage of RNC Night 4 — which featured Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump and then a 70-minute speech by President Donald Trump himself — delivered 5.43 million total viewers (through 11 pm), which is down a tick from Night 3 (5.65 mil) but on par with Night 2’s broadcast total (5.45 mil).

    Compared to broadcast-TV’s fast nationals for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention (5.8 mil), the RNC’s own finale was off by six percent.

    The DNC Night 4 went on to report 24.6 million total viewers, with PBS, FOX News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC, CNN, CNNe, Newsmax and Newsy all folded in; the RNC’s high thus far through Wednesday night is 19.4 million, for Night 2. Check back later for RNC Night 4’s cable-inclusive total!

    Elsewhere on Thursday, CBS’ Big Brother (4 mil/1.0) was steady week-to-week, leading the quiet night in both measures.

    I love this especially after his NBA comments.  No sports to watch either for competition. Sad!
    I was sure the ratings would've been higher last night because of that. Also MLB and hockey postponed games too. SAD!
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,979
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    SAD
    https://tvline.com/2020/08/28/tv-ratings-republican-convention-night-4-president-trump-speech/

    Ratings: Republican Convention Ends With No Trump Bump, Down vs. Night 3

    By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 28 2020, 8:25 AM PDT


    In the latest TV ratings, the 2020 Republican National Convention’s grand finale did not appear to enjoy any major Trump bumpon Thursday night, at least according to preliminary numbers.

    ABC, CBS and NBC’s combined coverage of RNC Night 4 — which featured Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump and then a 70-minute speech by President Donald Trump himself — delivered 5.43 million total viewers (through 11 pm), which is down a tick from Night 3 (5.65 mil) but on par with Night 2’s broadcast total (5.45 mil).

    Compared to broadcast-TV’s fast nationals for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention (5.8 mil), the RNC’s own finale was off by six percent.

    The DNC Night 4 went on to report 24.6 million total viewers, with PBS, FOX News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC, CNN, CNNe, Newsmax and Newsy all folded in; the RNC’s high thus far through Wednesday night is 19.4 million, for Night 2. Check back later for RNC Night 4’s cable-inclusive total!

    Elsewhere on Thursday, CBS’ Big Brother (4 mil/1.0) was steady week-to-week, leading the quiet night in both measures.

    I love this especially after his NBA comments.  No sports to watch either for competition. Sad!
    I was sure the ratings would've been higher last night because of that. Also MLB and hockey postponed games too. SAD!
    Were they all cancelled?  I was thinking MLB had some games, but I might be thinking of Wednesday.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    PJNB said:
    SAD
    https://tvline.com/2020/08/28/tv-ratings-republican-convention-night-4-president-trump-speech/

    Ratings: Republican Convention Ends With No Trump Bump, Down vs. Night 3

    By Matt Webb Mitovich / August 28 2020, 8:25 AM PDT


    In the latest TV ratings, the 2020 Republican National Convention’s grand finale did not appear to enjoy any major Trump bumpon Thursday night, at least according to preliminary numbers.

    ABC, CBS and NBC’s combined coverage of RNC Night 4 — which featured Rudy Giuliani, Ivanka Trump and then a 70-minute speech by President Donald Trump himself — delivered 5.43 million total viewers (through 11 pm), which is down a tick from Night 3 (5.65 mil) but on par with Night 2’s broadcast total (5.45 mil).

    Compared to broadcast-TV’s fast nationals for Night 4 of the Democratic National Convention (5.8 mil), the RNC’s own finale was off by six percent.

    The DNC Night 4 went on to report 24.6 million total viewers, with PBS, FOX News Channel, Fox Business Network, MSNBC, CNN, CNNe, Newsmax and Newsy all folded in; the RNC’s high thus far through Wednesday night is 19.4 million, for Night 2. Check back later for RNC Night 4’s cable-inclusive total!

    Elsewhere on Thursday, CBS’ Big Brother (4 mil/1.0) was steady week-to-week, leading the quiet night in both measures.

    I love this especially after his NBA comments.  No sports to watch either for competition. Sad!
    I was sure the ratings would've been higher last night because of that. Also MLB and hockey postponed games too. SAD!
    Were they all cancelled?  I was thinking MLB had some games, but I might be thinking of Wednesday.
    It was a mix.  All NBA and NHL and about half MLB. 
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    One of the worst songs ever written. It makes me cringe
    I get to hear it all the damn time. The alt-right folks who seem to have taken a liking to my town over the summer play it at every rally (once or twice a week), sometimes with one of the jackholes taking over on lead vocals. It's godawful. Oh, and they are rallies rather than protests because they are just rallying to maintain the status quo. The latest is to maintain the status quo of police brutality on black bodies, or what they call blue lives matter. If they do the same thing this week, my idea is to take my towheaded (Aryan enough) kids out with me, hook up to the church's outdoor electrical outlet, and we blast N.W.A.'s "Fuck the Police" back at them with all we've got. Might need to borrow some PA equipment!
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    Biden
    dankind said:
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    One of the worst songs ever written. It makes me cringe
    I get to hear it all the damn time. The alt-right folks who seem to have taken a liking to my town over the summer play it at every rally (once or twice a week), sometimes with one of the jackholes taking over on lead vocals. It's godawful. Oh, and they are rallies rather than protests because they are just rallying to maintain the status quo. The latest is to maintain the status quo of police brutality on black bodies, or what they call blue lives matter. If they do the same thing this week, my idea is to take my towheaded (Aryan enough) kids out with me, hook up to the church's outdoor electrical outlet, and we blast N.W.A.'s "Fuck the Police" back at them with all we've got. Might need to borrow some PA equipment!
    Dude where the hell do you live in mass? I thought the whole state was deep blue.  
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
    I have not.  To be it is forced patriotism.  
    Yeah you're absolutely right.  https://youtu.be/H3Bb-pZTcmQ?t=91
    That was funny as hell!!!
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    I'm sitting this one out
    mcgruff10 said:
    dankind said:
    static111 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    One of the worst songs ever written. It makes me cringe
    I get to hear it all the damn time. The alt-right folks who seem to have taken a liking to my town over the summer play it at every rally (once or twice a week), sometimes with one of the jackholes taking over on lead vocals. It's godawful. Oh, and they are rallies rather than protests because they are just rallying to maintain the status quo. The latest is to maintain the status quo of police brutality on black bodies, or what they call blue lives matter. If they do the same thing this week, my idea is to take my towheaded (Aryan enough) kids out with me, hook up to the church's outdoor electrical outlet, and we blast N.W.A.'s "Fuck the Police" back at them with all we've got. Might need to borrow some PA equipment!
    Dude where the hell do you live in mass? I thought the whole state was deep blue.  
    The whole state also has a pretty damn dark past of racism. The town I live in was a sundown town and chased Bill Russell from buying a house here.

    That being said, a lot of these people drive down from New Hampshire. 
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,836
    edited August 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Let's go Lakers!
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    And this

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebron-james-recruit-poll-workers-campaign-november-2020-elections-more-than-a-vote/

    I find it strange that in the "greatest" democracy the world has ever known a private citizen has to do this to try and make sure everyone gets to vote.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,399
    dignin said:
    And this

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebron-james-recruit-poll-workers-campaign-november-2020-elections-more-than-a-vote/

    I find it strange that in the "greatest" democracy the world has ever known a private citizen has to do this to try and make sure everyone gets to vote.
    And that Jimmy Carter, former President and UN election monitor, has turned his efforts toward the 2020 US election. Think about that for a second.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,217
    dignin said:
    And this

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lebron-james-recruit-poll-workers-campaign-november-2020-elections-more-than-a-vote/

    I find it strange that in the "greatest" democracy the world has ever known a private citizen has to do this to try and make sure everyone gets to vote.
     Yep the government has basically stopped working for the people!

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,527
    Biden
    Been saying this for years!


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,399
    Well, well, well, looky here. And Kamala sponsored the bill in the senate. If you know some stoners, give them a ride to the polls on Election Day and help them fill out their ballots.


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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,355
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
    I have not.  To be it is forced patriotism.  
    Not a fan. But how is it forced patriotism? 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,404
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Hate it.  Ever heard David Cross's comment on that song?
    I have not.  To be it is forced patriotism.  
    Not a fan. But how is it forced patriotism? 
    I don't think he means forced literally.  I'd call it "strained".
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,871
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    same kind of patriotism that comes from the hip slick and cool usa brochure that folks seem to believe we've achieved.

    the hyper-idealized version of america that doesnt exist. at least not yet.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,532
    Biden
    mcgruff10 said:
    Anybody else hate the “I m proud to be an American” song or is it just me? 
    Yes...fucking stupidass third grade song.  "where at least I know I'm free"....how fucking stupid is that?

    Lee Greenwood being a tRumpster doesn't help either.  
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,589
    Biden
    I see the Trump flags all over where I live in rural MN. They range from having the motto keep America great, no more bullshit, make liberals cry again and one literally with a muscular Trump on a tank. Loud minority for sure.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,217
    tbergs said:
    I see the Trump flags all over where I live in rural MN. They range from having the motto keep America great, no more bullshit, make liberals cry again and one literally with a muscular Trump on a tank. Loud minority for sure.
    After watching what’s transpired in the last two months I believe he will win re-election! The looters & violence has worked in his favor! 
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,322
    I'm sitting this one out
    tbergs said:
    I see the Trump flags all over where I live in rural MN. They range from having the motto keep America great, no more bullshit, make liberals cry again and one literally with a muscular Trump on a tank. Loud minority for sure.
    After watching what’s transpired in the last two months I believe he will win re-election! The looters & violence has worked in his favor! 
    I agree and it’s very frustrating to watch these looters sabotage themselves. 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,398
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    I see the Trump flags all over where I live in rural MN. They range from having the motto keep America great, no more bullshit, make liberals cry again and one literally with a muscular Trump on a tank. Loud minority for sure.
    After watching what’s transpired in the last two months I believe he will win re-election! The looters & violence has worked in his favor! 
    Couldn’t agree more.  
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    I see the Trump flags all over where I live in rural MN. They range from having the motto keep America great, no more bullshit, make liberals cry again and one literally with a muscular Trump on a tank. Loud minority for sure.
    After watching what’s transpired in the last two months I believe he will win re-election! The looters & violence has worked in his favor! 
    I still think if he wins it has more to do with white people being racist and looking for an out.  If some rioting and looting taking place under the current administration is enough to swing someones vote, they were looking for a guilt free way to vote Trump and all he stands for.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,217
    I’m shocked that black Americans leaders haven’t stepped up to the plate and tried to stop the violence! Specially the sports stars I know they have now specially the NBA but it’s a bit late in my opinion!
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    I’m shocked that black Americans leaders haven’t stepped up to the plate and tried to stop the violence! Specially the sports stars I know they have now specially the NBA but it’s a bit late in my opinion!
    I repeat.  If trump wins it is because racist white people were looking for a reason to vote for a facist white power dictator. The excuse will be property damage etc but deep down the real reason will be because they are ok with the reason that is causing the property damage.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,217
    https://www.politicususa.com/2020/08/29/trump-cancels-election-security-briefings.html
    No one can stop him he trampled Schiff & Pelosi they have no chance of stopping him! 

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  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory Posts: 6,301
    Biden
    Buckle up for 4 more years my friends. Thinking of his stupid ass smug hateful divisive face on election night already makes me want to vomit.
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