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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,819
    Biden
    I fucking love this speech
    where is he speaking? just logged back on and i am missing it.
    Pittsburgh.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Biden
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    dignin said:
    Saw that. Definitely good news. 

    The speech today was even better than his convention speech. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
    It's most assuredly a troll strategy. Now Hannity can say.... SEE!  

    Antifa isn't a commercial organization last time I checked.  I think they're organized as an LLC or an ESOP.  /S
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited August 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
    Seems to me like the Biden campaign trolling/mining/finger-wagging antifa supporters.

    Something along the lines of: "You knuckleheads want change, quit yer rabble-rousing malarkey and vote for me."

    They should buy boogaloo.com, too, and all its various spellings.

    Edit: I just checked, and boogaloo.com is available.


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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
    It's most assuredly a troll strategy. Now Hannity can say.... SEE!  

    Antifa isn't a commercial organization last time I checked.  I think they're organized as an LLC or an ESOP.  /S
    I suggested that as a possibility myself in the other thread. But the fact remains that Antifa.com redirects to Biden’s website and someone in his campaign should see to it that is ended. Because Hannity SHOULD say "see" if they leave that up. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
    It's most assuredly a troll strategy. Now Hannity can say.... SEE!  

    Antifa isn't a commercial organization last time I checked.  I think they're organized as an LLC or an ESOP.  /S
    I suggested that as a possibility myself in the other thread. But the fact remains that Antifa.com redirects to Biden’s website and someone in his campaign should see to it that is ended. Because Hannity SHOULD say "see" if they leave that up. 
    How did you hear about this? Randomly checking antifa.com, or did you see it posted on right wing social media?
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Umm.....what the hell is this?

    http://www.antifa.com

    If you don't trust my link, just type it into your browser yourself. 
    It's most assuredly a troll strategy. Now Hannity can say.... SEE!  

    Antifa isn't a commercial organization last time I checked.  I think they're organized as an LLC or an ESOP.  /S
    I suggested that as a possibility myself in the other thread. But the fact remains that Antifa.com redirects to Biden’s website and someone in his campaign should see to it that is ended. Because Hannity SHOULD say "see" if they leave that up. 
    How did you hear about this? Randomly checking antifa.com, or did you see it posted on right wing social media?
    The latter. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
  • Biden
    it might be a big deal if big media gets a hold of it. if the trump campaign can link all the violence to joe, that's big. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,321
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/antifa-redirect-joe-biden-website/

    What's True

    In August 2020, the antifa.com URL began redirecting users to joebiden.com, the official campaign website for U.S. Democratic Presidential Candidate Joe Biden. Since the initial publication of this story, the redirect link continued to change and pointed users to other websites, including kamalaharris.org and the self-described anarchist website itsgoingdown.org.

    What's False

    However, there are no apparent links between any of the website redirects and the Joe Biden campaign (anyone who owns or has access to a domain can establish either a temporary or permanent URL redirect, which essentially tells a search engine that the page has moved).

    What's Undetermined

    As of late August 2020, it is unknown who implemented the web redirects.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    Someone please let me know when DHS determines that ANTIFA is a terrorist organization with a membership as CYA Barr has so designated. I’m still waiting for the first CYA Barr indictments of ANTIFA members.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    Biden
    it might be a big deal if big media gets a hold of it. if the trump campaign can link all the violence to joe, that's big. 
    Trump has been desperately trying to link violence to Biden, and here's a literal "link" from Antifa to Biden. Biden's legal team should send a cease-and-desist to whoever owns that URL. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    I, honestly, don't think he could have given a better speech. Haymaker after haymaker making direct hits on Trump. Short and concise. 20 minutes. Bang. Done. Perfectly delivered. 


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  • Biden
    trump would also want to tie AAANNNNteeefaaahh.com to biden, as that is how he says it.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 
    That deep state is deep.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 
    That deep state is deep.
    That's the beauty of conspiracy theories.  Doesn't matter how crazy or unhinged the argument because logic was disposed long ago.  It's bulletproof. 
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,147
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 

    Oh yeah.  And it's not Harris waiting until the codger hangs it up that's controlling him.  It's a whole bunch of men, women, blacks, whites, Asians, Jews, atheists, Christians, Hollywood types, kids, etc.* that are leading him down the most socialistic road ever. A road paved with the credit cards of the hard-working; a road going right through their very living rooms; to be walked on by some very, um, unsavory people grabbing furniture, cash, and their very way of life.  Europe is going to seem positively capitalistic by comparison.  Enjoy handing your stuff directly to lazy people who don't want to work! I cannot overSTATE how DEEP it runs!

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,371
    Trump is reported betting favorite as of 8/28 at -120 at most sportsbooks. 1st time since May. MyBookie had him at -140

    He won in 2016 at +300-something underdog.

    Although polls are 1 factor in the influence of the betting odds, I find betting odds to be more accurate then the polls...
    I don't know anything about bookies and betting outside a casino floor and some horse racing, but aren't the odds 100% determined from bets made, not polls or anything else? They have to guarantee they make some money no matter what the outcome.
    I believe that's how it works with horse racing, if everyone bets on the same horse you pretty much just win your money back, I assumed it was the same for everything.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    edited August 2020
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    Trump is reported betting favorite as of 8/28 at -120 at most sportsbooks. 1st time since May. MyBookie had him at -140

    He won in 2016 at +300-something underdog.

    Although polls are 1 factor in the influence of the betting odds, I find betting odds to be more accurate then the polls...
    I don't know anything about bookies and betting outside a casino floor and some horse racing, but aren't the odds 100% determined from bets made, not polls or anything else? They have to guarantee they make some money no matter what the outcome.
    I believe that's how it works with horse racing, if everyone bets on the same horse you pretty much just win your money back, I assumed it was the same for everything.
    Yes the odds move based on the action.  The action must be trending to Trump 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,061
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    “I want to be very clear about all of this — rioting is not protesting,” Biden said. “Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. None of this is protesting. It’s lawlessness, plain and simple. And those who do it should be prosecuted. Violence will not bring change, it will only bring destruction. It’s wrong in every way, it divides instead of unites.”
    That's not enough!!!

    I need to see Joe Biden in hand to hand combat with at least 10 protesters before I could consider believing him. Otherwise this is just political opportunism, because I know deep down he is an antifa plant!
    Actually the counter I get is.. "well he's just a figurehead, it doesn't matter what he believes".  Sure..sure. 

    Oh yeah.  And it's not Harris waiting until the codger hangs it up that's controlling him.  It's a whole bunch of men, women, blacks, whites, Asians, Jews, atheists, Christians, Hollywood types, kids, etc.* that are leading him down the most socialistic road ever. A road paved with the credit cards of the hard-working; a road going right through their very living rooms; to be walked on by some very, um, unsavory people grabbing furniture, cash, and their very way of life.  Europe is going to seem positively capitalistic by comparison.  Enjoy handing your stuff directly to lazy people who don't want to work! I cannot overSTATE how DEEP it runs!

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
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  • Biden
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,682
    Biden
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
  • Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    jeffbr said:
    mrussel1 said:
    It's so silly its stupid.  Hannity will say it but he's just preaching to the choir.  It's a prank, like a less clever "Santorum "
    Whatever you say. I'm just stating the fact of the matter: Antifa.com redirects to Joebiden.com

    And according to this website, it's been redirecting to Biden's site since early August, and per the internet wayback machine, it had regular Antifa propaganda on it as late as July 24th

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/08/30/fact-check-antifa-com-does-really-take-you-directly-to-bidens-campaign-site-many-are-asking-why-966463?ocid=uxbndlbing
    Anyone can buy a domain name and link it to anything. I was going to buy cult45.com and link it to Trump's site, but someone already bought it and parked it, and will try to sell it at a markup through a domain name broker. So I tried http://fascism2020.com/ and it turns out someone else already bought that and redirected it to Trump's website. My point is that just because a domain name redirects to a website doesn't mean the website owner owns the domain name, or endorses it. I'm betting Trump's org didn't actually buy fascism2020.com, just as I'm certain that Biden had nothing to do with antifa.com. Just Internet pranks that cost $15 to pull off for the year.
    we all know that. a lot of dummies out there (who also vote) don't. that's the point. 
    They're already voting Trump
    oh come on. you don't think there are people ignorant of this stuff in the middle or the left?
    new album "Cigarettes" out Spring 2025!

    www.headstonesband.com




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