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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,357
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    Got this fear mongering propaganda in the mail today.

    Biden may have aged another 10+ years based on that picture. Since both sides are the same I'll await the oppositions' fear mongering mail as well. So hard to choose which candidate to vote for.
    This showed up in my mailbox today. That Biden guy is something else. I also got a notice to request a mail-in ballot that also informed me Joe Biden and Tina Smith support letting trans individuals use bathrooms with little girls and compete in boxing matches with women, probably nice old ladies who go to bible study. Also that My birthday will be taken away, and other nonsense.
    The propaganda from the right is intense. Not only the mailings, but I've been getting text messages, and yes, even telling me to request a mail in ballot. Hmmm, I thought that was bad...

    I haven't gotten anything from anybody about voting Democrat though. The right is on the TV, in my mailbox and on my phone constantly. That is what worries me most. So many dumb people believe that shit being sent out and there's no countering it.

    I also wonder if it's my rural zip code they are targeting knowing support is strongest outside the major cities.
    Where in MN are you? I was up in the Wadena/Park Rapids area on Saturday visiting my brother. Got to see a Trump Parade of Toothless Tubbies in their flagged out trucks rolling down the highway. Maybe 40 trucks. It’s evidently a regular thing up there. My brother hates them.

    i grew up in Brainerd. It’s a lost cause. They drank the Kool Aid. Sad.
    Southern area by Northfield. Grew up in the Staples area and lived in Brainerd for about 4 years so I am very familiar with the Wadena area. Sounds similar to what I see around here. The other day, what appeared to be a 16 year old, was driving a go kart around the area with a 6 foot Trump flag on the back waving in the wind. Four wheelers, coolers with a motor and go karts are a common sighting on the roads around here. Between that, the dumb signs in yards and on houses and the drunken idiots in their garages every night, it's annoying.

    I think anyone who thinks both sides are the same needs to come stay in a rural area for at least a week. May change their opinion on which side has a bigger problem. I'll wait for someone to bring up "protesters" since they're destroying cities all across the country....

    The amount of money people around me have spent on stupid shit related to Trump, that is all likely made in China, is ridiculous, but yet they complain about those free loaders getting unemployment and the "war zone" in the cities. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,306
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Reading is hard. It's a running theme around here.
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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,844
    I think it was Trump who called journalists enemies of the people....
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    dankind said:
    Somebody needs to take His keys away from him...Good lord Joe, you are going to blow it...Stay in the basement!!

    Thomas Catenacci, a Northeastern University college student, no thanks. 
    As a former and longtime Fenway resident (~10 years), I took the liberty of editing this for you. 
    Wow! Are you an editor? If not, you should be!
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    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
    Biden
    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Reading is hard. It's a running theme around here.
    Worse, this was a video,  so listening. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
    Biden
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
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    jerparker20jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,429
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    tbergs said:
    Got this fear mongering propaganda in the mail today.

    Biden may have aged another 10+ years based on that picture. Since both sides are the same I'll await the oppositions' fear mongering mail as well. So hard to choose which candidate to vote for.
    This showed up in my mailbox today. That Biden guy is something else. I also got a notice to request a mail-in ballot that also informed me Joe Biden and Tina Smith support letting trans individuals use bathrooms with little girls and compete in boxing matches with women, probably nice old ladies who go to bible study. Also that My birthday will be taken away, and other nonsense.
    The propaganda from the right is intense. Not only the mailings, but I've been getting text messages, and yes, even telling me to request a mail in ballot. Hmmm, I thought that was bad...

    I haven't gotten anything from anybody about voting Democrat though. The right is on the TV, in my mailbox and on my phone constantly. That is what worries me most. So many dumb people believe that shit being sent out and there's no countering it.

    I also wonder if it's my rural zip code they are targeting knowing support is strongest outside the major cities.
    Where in MN are you? I was up in the Wadena/Park Rapids area on Saturday visiting my brother. Got to see a Trump Parade of Toothless Tubbies in their flagged out trucks rolling down the highway. Maybe 40 trucks. It’s evidently a regular thing up there. My brother hates them.

    i grew up in Brainerd. It’s a lost cause. They drank the Kool Aid. Sad.
    Southern area by Northfield. Grew up in the Staples area and lived in Brainerd for about 4 years so I am very familiar with the Wadena area. Sounds similar to what I see around here. The other day, what appeared to be a 16 year old, was driving a go kart around the area with a 6 foot Trump flag on the back waving in the wind. Four wheelers, coolers with a motor and go karts are a common sighting on the roads around here. Between that, the dumb signs in yards and on houses and the drunken idiots in their garages every night, it's annoying.

    I think anyone who thinks both sides are the same needs to come stay in a rural area for at least a week. May change their opinion on which side has a bigger problem. I'll wait for someone to bring up "protesters" since they're destroying cities all across the country....

    The amount of money people around me have spent on stupid shit related to Trump, that is all likely made in China, is ridiculous, but yet they complain about those free loaders getting unemployment and the "war zone" in the cities. 
    I have a buddy that lives outside of Northfield. I know what you’re talking about.

    i too am amazed at the amount of money some of these folks out in the rural parts spend on trump yard trash. The trailer looks like it’s on it’s last wall, but there’s 12 trump flags that are probably $40 a piece and 12 $10 yard signs out front. The Trump Dump roadside flea markets are another thing to behold. Drove past a few of those last weekend. Every one had someone dropping money at them.
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    mrussel1 said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
    Jeesh, have they fallen on hard times. Going from private charter to commercial must be really irritating. No wonder they’re so surly.

    And he was asking the CNN host how the protestors knew who the chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party was when he exited the White House on the last night of the RPC. Umm, gee, it’s DC, people are pretty attuned to the movers and shakers within Political parties or, umm, maybe but I don’t know, I can’t be sure but maybe you’ve heard about it Tim? It’s called the interwebbery way back machine. I hear libraries have them. You remember libraries, don’t you Tim? I’m sure repubs were asking themselves the same questions.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
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    mrussel1 said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
    Jeesh, have they fallen on hard times. Going from private charter to commercial must be really irritating. No wonder they’re so surly.

    And he was asking the CNN host how the protestors knew who the chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party was when he exited the White House on the last night of the RPC. Umm, gee, it’s DC, people are pretty attuned to the movers and shakers within Political parties or, umm, maybe but I don’t know, I can’t be sure but maybe you’ve heard about it Tim? It’s called the interwebbery way back machine. I hear libraries have them. You remember libraries, don’t you Tim? I’m sure repubs were asking themselves the same questions.
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    dankind said: loop
    mrussel1 said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
    Jeesh, have they fallen on hard times. Going from private charter to commercial must be really irritating. No wonder they’re so surly.

    And he was asking the CNN host how the protestors knew who the chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party was when he exited the White House on the last night of the RPC. Umm, gee, it’s DC, people are pretty attuned to the movers and shakers within Political parties or, umm, maybe but I don’t know, I can’t be sure but maybe you’ve heard about it Tim? It’s called the interwebbery way back machine. I hear libraries have them. You remember libraries, don’t you Tim? I’m sure repubs were asking themselves the same questions.
    No more NetJets?
    More for Ed?
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    dankind said: loop
    mrussel1 said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 
    Jeesh, have they fallen on hard times. Going from private charter to commercial must be really irritating. No wonder they’re so surly.

    And he was asking the CNN host how the protestors knew who the chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party was when he exited the White House on the last night of the RPC. Umm, gee, it’s DC, people are pretty attuned to the movers and shakers within Political parties or, umm, maybe but I don’t know, I can’t be sure but maybe you’ve heard about it Tim? It’s called the interwebbery way back machine. I hear libraries have them. You remember libraries, don’t you Tim? I’m sure repubs were asking themselves the same questions.
    No more NetJets?
    More for Ed?
    Less for Mother Earth. 

    What’s gigaton mean again?

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    The more I think about what Team Trump Treason said last night about flying thugs, the more I think: Doc Martin shit kickers + black clothing + Ed + Seattle + plane travel + speaking up and out + busting stuff = Ed is ANTIFA. And Mike looks pretty shady too, having seen with my very own eyes, I was there, how he dresses and butchers our National Anthem.
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
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    I think Kennedy was crying during his concession speech. 

    Yeah, it’s gonna be a helluva lot tougher to beat Pressley in an open primary down the line. Poor fella. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,434
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    mrussel1 said:
    Tim Mirtaugh, Director of Communication for Team Trump Treason 2020, thinks the only mode of transportation today is by plane and got pretty hot under the collar trying to defend Team Trump Treason’s claim of a flight full of black clad anarchists, looters and rioters with gear. He couldn’t give any facts but questions how it is they arrived in DC.

    Wasn't Murtaugh the evil villain in the first Die Hard movie? He fits the part.
    Antifa, Inc. commonly charters private jets to their protests.  They used to own a private plane but in cost cutting strategies,  they decided to forward their internet traffic to Biden's website.  It was part of their commitment to the Board. 

    guess TSA , a part of the deep state, went on break before that flight.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,079
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    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Listen to the whole thing, clear as day she did.
    Yes, she so she called him a domestic enemy of voting. And then included republicans in Congress, or that’s what I took her to mean his “allies in Congress.” So she called republicans domestic enemies. And then concluded by calling them enemies of the state. Trump and his allies in Congress, so most elected republicans minus a select few.
    Not sure how you can deny she said that.

    Did you think she was leading into the next segment about Blink182 and said enema of the state?
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,079
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    dignin said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Reading is hard. It's a running theme around here.
    I’m not sure why it was that difficult. Yes, she called Trump and republicans in Congress domestic enemies of the voting system. Also, listen to the last 4 words spoken in the clip, she refers to them as “enemies of the state,” just like I said. Not sure why that’s so difficult to hear. Not sure how you can deny she said that, it’s very clear. The clips ends with the words “enemies of the state” but somehow that didn’t happen? 
    You could argue she didn’t call all republicans that, fine. I’d disagree, when you call trump and his allies in Congress, that’s the vast majority of elected  republicans. I wouldn’t say Biden and his allies in Congress are idiots, then try and say I wasn’t referring to Democrats, but just a select few. But I don’t know how you could accuse someone of not being able to read or listen and say she never called him an enemies of the state, just an enemy of the voting system when she clearly says enemies of the state. Listen to the whole thing.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 41,045
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    mrussel1 said:

    He's smart enough to know that his followers are dumb enough to get excited about this and add it to their weak arsenal.

    And by the way, does that include testing for bleach?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Propaganda exists on all sides. I actually believe the left is very effective with it. They've had a campaign for 4 years telling people you are evil if you don't vote for their party. I rarely hear any issues discussed, but its just how horrible of a person you are and how you deserve to suffer, etc, if you don't vote democrat. It may not be in my mailbox or phone calls, but that is the constant message from many leading politicians like Pelosi. Even the message here from many. Vote with me or you're an evil worthless piece of crap.
    That's propaganda people.
    To the first bold, can you point me to anything that backs this up as true?

    To the second bold, can you point out or link to any public statements, campaign messaging or anything at all that backs this up as a true statement, from Pelosi or "many leading politicians?" There should be copious amounts in the public realm if what you allege is true, yes?

    To the third bold, can you point to one post where you or anyone with right views or these repugnant views ("how you deserve to suffer, etc. if you don't vote democrat") that make you the target of the left have called you or alluded to you as an "evil worthless piece of crap?"

    All of which is such strong and numerous propaganda in volume that it should be really easy for you to point out with a link or a cut/post and a citation, correct?.
    I was mistaken. She didn't call republicans evil, she said they are "enemies of the state." My point was, there seems to be so much hate from the left at anyone who disagrees with them. Are you saying that isn't true? It goes back before the deplorables comment even.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/pelosi_republicans_are_domestic_enemies.html
    You're mistaken AGAIN.  She didn't call Republicans enemies of the state.  She said that the team at 1600 Penn Ave and their allies in Congress are enemies to our voting system.  How did you screw that up twice?
    Listen to the whole thing, clear as day she did.
    Yes, she so she called him a domestic enemy of voting. And then included republicans in Congress, or that’s what I took her to mean his “allies in Congress.” So she called republicans domestic enemies. And then concluded by calling them enemies of the state. Trump and his allies in Congress, so most elected republicans minus a select few.
    Not sure how you can deny she said that.

    Did you think she was leading into the next segment about Blink182 and said enema of the state?
    Republicans in congress are not most elected republicans, not by a long shot.  Nor are they republican voters.  Jumping from Trump and his allies in Congress (elected Republican congressional members) to all/most Republicans is silly.  And Trump, by his own words, is an enemy of voting simplicity. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:

    He's smart enough to know that his followers are dumb enough to get excited about this and add it to their weak arsenal.

    And by the way, does that include testing for bleach?
    This is what happens when you set the bar super low for someone by insulting their intelligence over and over, and then people see that person and say.. what?  He's great!  So now Trump has to go with "performance enhancers".  It's beyond silly.  Because he's untethered from the truth, he can just say whatever he wants.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,199
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    I still think Biden should say "I'll take a drug test if you will release your tax returns"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    dankind said:
    I think Kennedy was crying during his concession speech. 

    Yeah, it’s gonna be a helluva lot tougher to beat Pressley in an open primary down the line. Poor fella. 
    This election was confusing.  Markey feels like the establishment candidate and Kennedy felt like the upstart.  But the progressives backed Markey.  I don't know what to take from it, other than the Kennedy name is dying. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,199
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    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    I think Kennedy was crying during his concession speech. 

    Yeah, it’s gonna be a helluva lot tougher to beat Pressley in an open primary down the line. Poor fella. 
    This election was confusing.  Markey feels like the establishment candidate and Kennedy felt like the upstart.  But the progressives backed Markey.  I don't know what to take from it, other than the Kennedy name is dying. 
    Kennedy isn't done yet...he's young...he'll be back
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    I think Kennedy was crying during his concession speech. 

    Yeah, it’s gonna be a helluva lot tougher to beat Pressley in an open primary down the line. Poor fella. 
    This election was confusing.  Markey feels like the establishment candidate and Kennedy felt like the upstart.  But the progressives backed Markey.  I don't know what to take from it, other than the Kennedy name is dying. 
    Kennedy isn't done yet...he's young...he'll be back
    Agreed but he'll have to do it on his own,  not leveraging his name.  The name doesn't make you a winner like in the past 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/514738-biden-condemns-rioting-in-new-ad

    Biden increasing the push back and reversal on the rioting, blaming Trump for inflammatory language.  I'm biased but that seems like a pretty easy story to sell.  Only one of the candidates is the president and responsible for what happens and how to deal with it.  
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
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    mrussel1 said:
    dankind said:
    I think Kennedy was crying during his concession speech. 

    Yeah, it’s gonna be a helluva lot tougher to beat Pressley in an open primary down the line. Poor fella. 
    This election was confusing.  Markey feels like the establishment candidate and Kennedy felt like the upstart.  But the progressives backed Markey.  I don't know what to take from it, other than the Kennedy name is dying. 
    It’s because Markey reaches out to young voters and the far left. He had a mixed voting record but made the case for why he supports the overall movement and he actually listened to progressive leaders.  Kennedy was basically running a look at my name campaign and did no serious reaching out to progressives.  And underneath it all was the different places their campaigns were getting money from.  People are paying more attention and the same old politicking is becoming less effective.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,001
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    The choice between Markey and Kennedy wasn't much of a choice at all, but I voted for Markey because Kennedy was the wrong candidate to challenge him. I absolutely agree that Markey may have been there too long and it may be time for new blood, but a Kennedy kid telling me he represents a change from the politics of old is a few bridges too far. Had he stayed in Congress I likely would have voted for Kennedy again, but his Senate challenge was ridiculous. Also...the Pelosi endorsement did not help.   
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
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    JimmyV said:
    The choice between Markey and Kennedy wasn't much of a choice at all, but I voted for Markey because Kennedy was the wrong candidate to challenge him. I absolutely agree that Markey may have been there too long and it may be time for new blood, but a Kennedy kid telling me he represents a change from the politics of old is a few bridges too far. Had he stayed in Congress I likely would have voted for Kennedy again, but his Senate challenge was ridiculous. Also...the Pelosi endorsement did not help.   
    I was surprised Pelosi got involved.  It's really just payback from when he was in the House and I dont think he backed her previous bid to be Speaker,  I believe. 
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