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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    We drove past the CHOP entrance at - I think - 12th and Pine yesterday, when we were in town. I could see a lot of people, touristy types mainly, taking selfies at the barricades. When we carried on driving around Capitol Hill, I could see that quite a few of the local businesses such as the bars were open and doing good trade (maybe even out of the increased foot traffic). I don't know what the CHOP area is really like at night but it certainly didn't look at all menacing in the daytime.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    edited June 2020
    FinsburyParkCarrots said:
    We drove past the CHOP entrance at - I think - 12th and Pine yesterday, when we were in town. I could see a lot of people, touristy types mainly, taking selfies at the barricades. When we carried on driving around Capitol Hill, I could see that quite a few of the local businesses such as the bars were open and doing good trade (maybe even out of the increased foot traffic). I don't know what the CHOP area is really like at night but it certainly didn't look at all menacing in the daytime.

    I wonder if it will be like San Francisco's Haight Ashbury was (and even to an extent, still is) in the 60's and will draw young people from all across the country and even the world?  Young people looking for something new, curious to experience something different?  This could be the beginning of a new cultural era.  If so, I say, good!  It's about time!  The hippie/ black power era followed closely on the heals of the beats.  It's taken a long time for a new cultural evolution to unfold.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited June 2020
    Isnt this what the Left wants?  You put George Bush's head on a stick filet him slap him around, hate everything about America and capitalism. Well you got what you wanted.  
    https://youtu.be/5nhyhlzLwIw
    Is Pearl Jam one of the house bands playing as you enter the Utopian country known as as CHOP? Ya know like when you use to be able to go to ballgames & there is a pep band playing in the foyer.
    Literally the blackout is now going through the cities.  And W is nowhere around what happened?
    That and Howard Zinn's revised history  brings us to where we are today.
    Great job!
    Post edited by RYME on
  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited June 2020
    $upplies Need.  Lol.  Carmel Corn, hey hey caramel corn peanuts ice cream it's all good, rainbows and unicorns just come on in.  Everything is Grand when you're in Chaze, land.https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE
    Oh I forgot Chaz became Chop.
    Chop national anthem.  Lets all stand!
    Post edited by RYME on
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    RYME said:
    $upplies Need.  Lol.  Carmel Corn, hey hey caramel corn peanuts ice cream it's all good, rainbows and unicorns just come on in.  Everything is Grand when you're in Chaze, land.https://youtu.be/zjedLeVGcfE
    Oh I forgot Chaz became Chop.
    Come on, man.  Why keep instigating?

    Try having a rational conversation instead.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,673
    I sense a banning
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    edited June 2020
    Some dudes with guns in CHOP....

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272687765772107778?s=21

    I scrolled down the twitter feed a bit. This guy seems like a pretty good source on the ground there in the nation of CHOP. 

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272699146151972864?s=21
    Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Some dudes with guns in CHOP....

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272687765772107778?s=21

    I scrolled down the twitter feed a bit. This guy seems like a pretty good source on the ground there in the nation of CHOP. 

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272699146151972864?s=21

    Not cool to see those images- not to me anyway.  Clearly, not social movement is ever going to be 100% perfect. 

    But what percentage of people in CHOP do you suppose are armed (minus those with permits to carry- not that I'm a fan of people being armed), this is, after all, Washington we're talking about? When I lived there in the early 90's, a person could walk into a feed store with a few hundred bucks and walk out armed.  I saw it happen.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 10,069
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tbergs said:
    If Seattle falls in the state of Washington and nobody sees it, does it make a noise?
    I guess not. The governor claimed two days ago that he didn't even know about CHAZ. He said "it's news to me." Sure......

    https://news.yahoo.com/thats-news-washington-governor-inslee-183800353.html
    That link was dated the 12th, but I think he said that a few days earlier, maybe the 10th I think. Still pretty ridiculous though. 95% of America knew of it by then, no excuse he didn’t know about it.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Some dudes with guns in CHOP....

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272687765772107778?s=21

    I scrolled down the twitter feed a bit. This guy seems like a pretty good source on the ground there in the nation of CHOP. 

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272699146151972864?s=21

    Not cool to see those images- not to me anyway.  Clearly, not social movement is ever going to be 100% perfect. 

    But what percentage of people in CHOP do you suppose are armed (minus those with permits to carry- not that I'm a fan of people being armed), this is, after all, Washington we're talking about? When I lived there in the early 90's, a person could walk into a feed store with a few hundred bucks and walk out armed.  I saw it happen.
    I have no clue. I wouldn’t begrudge someone carrying a sidearm for protection, but that guy with the rifle...like you said...not cool. I’m just beyond fascinated by the whole thing. Where is this all going? Could be a powder keg.  
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    mace1229 said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    tbergs said:
    If Seattle falls in the state of Washington and nobody sees it, does it make a noise?
    I guess not. The governor claimed two days ago that he didn't even know about CHAZ. He said "it's news to me." Sure......

    https://news.yahoo.com/thats-news-washington-governor-inslee-183800353.html
    That link was dated the 12th, but I think he said that a few days earlier, maybe the 10th I think. Still pretty ridiculous though. 95% of America knew of it by then, no excuse he didn’t know about it.
    Yeah I have the date wrong but nevertheless, everyone knew by time he had that quote. 
    2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,804
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Some dudes with guns in CHOP....

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272687765772107778?s=21

    I scrolled down the twitter feed a bit. This guy seems like a pretty good source on the ground there in the nation of CHOP. 

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272699146151972864?s=21

    Not cool to see those images- not to me anyway.  Clearly, not social movement is ever going to be 100% perfect. 

    But what percentage of people in CHOP do you suppose are armed (minus those with permits to carry- not that I'm a fan of people being armed), this is, after all, Washington we're talking about? When I lived there in the early 90's, a person could walk into a feed store with a few hundred bucks and walk out armed.  I saw it happen.
    I have no clue. I wouldn’t begrudge someone carrying a sidearm for protection, but that guy with the rifle...like you said...not cool. I’m just beyond fascinated by the whole thing. Where is this all going? Could be a powder keg.  

    In America, a powder keg is always a possibility.  Which would suck because 10's, 100's, maybe even thousands more people would acquire tinnitus at best, be dead at worst.  Both suck.  I'm hoping rather than shit blowing up, CHOP produces some valuable lessons for society or, better yet, change for the better in the way we live.  Sometimes good shit happens.  But we have to have the will to live, or as Neil said, the will to love.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    brianlux said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Some dudes with guns in CHOP....

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272687765772107778?s=21

    I scrolled down the twitter feed a bit. This guy seems like a pretty good source on the ground there in the nation of CHOP. 

    https://twitter.com/richiemcginniss/status/1272699146151972864?s=21

    Not cool to see those images- not to me anyway.  Clearly, not social movement is ever going to be 100% perfect. 

    But what percentage of people in CHOP do you suppose are armed (minus those with permits to carry- not that I'm a fan of people being armed), this is, after all, Washington we're talking about? When I lived there in the early 90's, a person could walk into a feed store with a few hundred bucks and walk out armed.  I saw it happen.
    I have no clue. I wouldn’t begrudge someone carrying a sidearm for protection, but that guy with the rifle...like you said...not cool. I’m just beyond fascinated by the whole thing. Where is this all going? Could be a powder keg.  

    In America, a powder keg is always a possibility.  Which would suck because 10's, 100's, maybe even thousands more people would acquire tinnitus at best, be dead at worst.  Both suck.  I'm hoping rather than shit blowing up, CHOP produces some valuable lessons for society or, better yet, change for the better in the way we live.  Sometimes good shit happens.  But we have to have the will to live, or as Neil said, the will to love.
    Well not a literal powder keg with an explosion, just the potential for a bad situation. 
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,251
    Beverlyn dropping truth bombs from Chaz.  Scroll down to his “holy shit” video:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jason_howerton?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    edited June 2020
    RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
    Beverlyn dropping truth bombs from Chaz.  Scroll down to his “holy shit” video:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jason_howerton?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
    I'm guessing this is the "holy shit" video you're talking about.....


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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,016
    edited June 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, sounds like real lunacy. More like libertarianism or Bundyism, without the firearms. You going looking for the pizza franchise?

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/dubbed-a-lawless-state-by-some-the-chaz-or-chop-seattles-newest-neighborhood-tries-to-create-its-own-narrative/
    Oh there's firearms...






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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,474
    Like I’ve said, forget about left and right. Humans are not civilized enough for this. I can’t see it ending well. It’s amazing how even CHAZ has become a partisan thing. Don’t show anything bad if you’re on this side, show only the bad if you’re on the other. What a weird thing. When the wolves come out, all these “abolish the police” fools will be running for any cop in sight to help out. 
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2020
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, sounds like real lunacy. More like libertarianism or Bundyism, without the firearms. You going looking for the pizza franchise?

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/dubbed-a-lawless-state-by-some-the-chaz-or-chop-seattles-newest-neighborhood-tries-to-create-its-own-narrative/
    Oh there's firearms...






    Doesn’t seem too responsible....why would they need guns?  They obviously are not doing background checks...
    It has been said plenty of times in the gun violence thread that only the police should have firearms...
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,270
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, sounds like real lunacy. More like libertarianism or Bundyism, without the firearms. You going looking for the pizza franchise?

    https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/dubbed-a-lawless-state-by-some-the-chaz-or-chop-seattles-newest-neighborhood-tries-to-create-its-own-narrative/
    Oh there's firearms...






    Washington State is open carry right? And the Faux news photoshop of “armed guards” was proven to be bullshit. Why now, in CHAZ or CHOP, which the right constantly proclaims as lawless, is it an issue for citizens to legally open carry? I’m on the record as being opposed to any side open carrying. It’s like some posters are just dying for blood to be spilled and mayhem to ensue. That said, what’s your point other than there’s guns present? Pretty much like in a lot of America, some places more than others. I guess it’s a lot more like Bundyism and libertarianism then? But next jimjam goes to Seattle, s/he will restore order?
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    RYME said:
    Isnt this what the Left wants?  You put George Bush's head on a stick filet him slap him around, hate everything about America and capitalism. Well you got what you wanted.  
    https://youtu.be/5nhyhlzLwIw
    Is Pearl Jam one of the house bands playing as you enter the Utopian country known as as CHOP? Ya know like when you use to be able to go to ballgames & there is a pep band playing in the foyer.
    Literally the blackout is now going through the cities.  And W is nowhere around what happened?
    That and Howard Zinn's revised history  brings us to where we are today.
    Great job!
    I think you need to call the whambulance, your tears are gonna flood you out soon 🤣🤣
    I remember just a few days ago you were talking a big game about being here to have serious discussions and learn and reach common ground lol

    How about you don't drag on Pearl Jam around here and we will all continue to peaceably tolerate the crap hick stuff with which you flood the Lounge? 
    Deal?  
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