Seattle Has Fallen...

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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 13,944
    nicknyr15 said:
    So that’s three shootings in two nights. No mention of it by the mayor of course. But happy Father’s Day and happy Juneteenth. And be sure to “Stay Home. Stay Healthy.” 


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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,029
    nicknyr15 said:
    So that’s three shootings in two nights. No mention of it by the mayor of course. But happy Father’s Day and happy Juneteenth. And be sure to “Stay Home. Stay Healthy.” 


    I hate to say it because I’d never want to sound like Trump, but there is some weak leadership over there right now. Something has to be done 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 13,944
    edited June 22
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    So that’s three shootings in two nights. No mention of it by the mayor of course. But happy Father’s Day and happy Juneteenth. And be sure to “Stay Home. Stay Healthy.” 


    I hate to say it because I’d never want to sound like Trump, but there is some weak leadership over there right now. Something has to be done 
    Yeah he's the "Boy Who Cried Weak Democratic Leadership" for sure, but even a broken clock is right twice a day as the old saying goes. 
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  • dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 16,063
    edited June 23
    I was on a meeting today, and apparently, an alt-right march into CHOP is in the works for, I think, July 4. So, yeah, those John Brown folks very much might be needed; otherwise, it's basically a turkey shoot for the counterprotesters.
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 21,931
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,748
    Sure is quiet on the CHOP front...I’m guessing they finally confiscated everyone’s phones and cameras in the freedom wonderland...
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    PJPOWER said:
    Sure is quiet on the CHOP front...I’m guessing they finally confiscated everyone’s phones and cameras in the freedom wonderland...

    Apparently it's being "de-escalated" and "dismantled".  No much staying power with that experiment. 
    “In all human affairs there are efforts, and there are results, and the strength of the effort is the measure of the result.”
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,748
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Sure is quiet on the CHOP front...I’m guessing they finally confiscated everyone’s phones and cameras in the freedom wonderland...

    Apparently it's being "de-escalated" and "dismantled".  No much staying power with that experiment. 
    Awww, that makes sense...I’m sure there will be some holdouts that aren’t ready for the end.  Hope they don’t stir shit up.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 24,552
    What did they hope to gain out of this?

    With no true leaders and rules the place was destined for failure.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    What did they hope to gain out of this?

    With no true leaders and rules the place was destined for failure.

    Exactly!  It has been an interesting experiment but never coalesced with a central objective because it was too fragmented. Kind of like America in general these days. 
    “In all human affairs there are efforts, and there are results, and the strength of the effort is the measure of the result.”
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,146
    Leadership was absolutely THE issue with these guys. They were supposed to join other community activist groups at meetings with police and city leadership, and were no-shows. They contradict one another. One "leader's" faction makes one decision, and the next day a different "leader" says something different. Established BLM groups and community activist groups have disassociated from them. The police will be returning to the East Precinct, but no time frame or method given. I'm guessing it will be very soon. Another shooting this morning, so 3 days in a row. From what I understand, activist groups who ARE working with the city are in CHOP talking with "leadership" there trying to assist the city/police in returning to the East Precinct and re-opening the place safely and peacefully. I think they'll let the demonstrations continue at Cal Anderson Park, but they want the blocks and streets back for public use.  CHOP became about something other than racial equality and BLM. But what exactly is still TBD. They have a few basic demands, but in general can't even coordinate among themselves. 

    Their biggest success in my mind is that there is now a BHAZ (Black House Autonomous Zone) setting up near the Whitehouse, which has to make Drumpf apoplectic. 
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    jeffbr said:
    Leadership was absolutely THE issue with these guys. They were supposed to join other community activist groups at meetings with police and city leadership, and were no-shows. They contradict one another. One "leader's" faction makes one decision, and the next day a different "leader" says something different. Established BLM groups and community activist groups have disassociated from them. The police will be returning to the East Precinct, but no time frame or method given. I'm guessing it will be very soon. Another shooting this morning, so 3 days in a row. From what I understand, activist groups who ARE working with the city are in CHOP talking with "leadership" there trying to assist the city/police in returning to the East Precinct and re-opening the place safely and peacefully. I think they'll let the demonstrations continue at Cal Anderson Park, but they want the blocks and streets back for public use.  CHOP became about something other than racial equality and BLM. But what exactly is still TBD. They have a few basic demands, but in general can't even coordinate among themselves. 

    Their biggest success in my mind is that there is now a BHAZ (Black House Autonomous Zone) setting up near the Whitehouse, which has to make Drumpf apoplectic. 

    I hadn't heard about BHAZ before but a quick search makes it look like this is going the wrong way fast:

    "Protesters vandalized the front of the historic St. Luke’s Episcopal Church by spray-painting “BHAZ” on its facade while the boarded-up Hay-Adams Hotel..."

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/23/activists-tried-to-set-up-cop-free-bhaz-outside-white-house/

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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,146
    Wow, that is counter-productive, and will only embolden Trump to "dominate" them.  Probably not the smartest move.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    jeffbr said:
    Wow, that is counter-productive, and will only embolden Trump to "dominate" them.  Probably not the smartest move.

    I wonder- are the people ruining the movement just idiots or are they infiltrators?  You never know.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    More signs of wide spread protesting:
    Image may contain text that says Really now we are protesting road repairs END ROAD WORK This is out of hand

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,029
    brianlux said:
    More signs of wide spread protesting:
    Image may contain text that says Really now we are protesting road repairs END ROAD WORK This is out of hand

    That’s awesome haha. I’m for it. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    More signs of wide spread protesting:
    Image may contain text that says Really now we are protesting road repairs END ROAD WORK This is out of hand

    That’s awesome haha. I’m for it. 
    Save the endangered American Pot Hole!
     :lol: 
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,033
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,660
    edited June 25
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    edited June 25
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?

    LOL. 

    If "Seattle has fallen",  six blocks must be a black hole. 

    Stay away from that thing, jeffbr !!!

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 7,959
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?
    Canadian math?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,660
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?
    Canadian math?
    fucking metric system......
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon I'm from Winnipeg, you idiot! (Chris Jericho)Posts: 22,206
    in canada at least we know 63 million beats 60 million. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 18,660
    in canada at least we know 63 million beats 60 million. 
    this is true.

    in the absence of electors...
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,146
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?

    LOL. 

    If "Seattle has fallen",  six blocks must be a black hole. 

    Stay away from that thing, jeffbr !!!

    I can feel the pull!! I'm holding on by my fingernails. lol
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin TorontoPosts: 1,439
    in canada at least we know 63 million beats 60 million. 
    Sorry, but no we don’t. If we did we’d have a Conservative minority government, see my comment in the Canadian politics thread where I suggested the CPC were Canada’s Hillary, which was shot down at the time and will be again I’m sure.
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  • hedonisthedonist standing on the edge of foreverPosts: 21,931
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?

    LOL. 

    If "Seattle has fallen",  six blocks must be a black hole. 

    Stay away from that thing, jeffbr !!!

    Careful.  

    :lol:
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 31,963
    hedonist said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?

    LOL. 

    If "Seattle has fallen",  six blocks must be a black hole. 

    Stay away from that thing, jeffbr !!!

    Careful.  

    :lol:

    Oops!  hide 

    :lol: 
    “In all human affairs there are efforts, and there are results, and the strength of the effort is the measure of the result.”
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  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,033
    mickeyrat said:
    BS44325 said:
    hedonist said:
    Every time I see this thread title, I think of Cat’s Morning Has Broken.

    Not quite as hopeful, though. 
    I got shit (or is that id?) for the title but it sure is seeming more appropriate now. 
      6 blocks represents the entire city?
    It’s not your 6 blocks so I guess it’s cool then. Talk about privilege.
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